#1
Just wondering could a Blues Jr. be used for gigging?

I have a Vox ad30vt and it was able to play an auditorium sized gig miced, would a 15 watt tube be as loud and able to play in such settings? Or would it be too small and not loud enough for medium gigs?

Also How does it sound with a drummer?

I have a bit of money saved and I can trade in my ad30vt for a tube Blues Jr.

If it helps the heaviest stuff I play is Zep or Sabbath. I also like to play alot of Pink Floyd stuff mainly classic rock.
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for sabbath youll need a pedal...

dude at 5 master volume i get over my drummer, very clearly, and it goes up to 12. yeah i think it could be used for gigs.
#3
it should work fine, but if your drummer is crazy then i dunno. I had a 30 watt SS amp and when i tried it out with my drummer i couldnt hear shit at 10. And everyone told me it could cut through a drummer, id personally never gig with less than 30 watts tube
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#4
Yeah, I used it in a gig even without mic'ing it. It can get pretty loud for a 15 watt, but for bigger places, you might need to mic' it.
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A 15w tube amp will kill a 30w SS amp.

If you can do it with your 30w amp, you should be able to do it with a 15w...maybe without even micing it.
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Well if I trade in my ad30vt would I be able to use the Blues Jr. in the bedroom as well?

Also i've seen used Hot Rod Deluxe amps for a hundred dollars more, is it worth saving a little more and getting that?

Can I use a hot rod in the bedroom as well? I know it's 40 watts tube but is it slightly possible?
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The hot rod would be a little much for bedroom use, especially if you wanted power tube saturation. You probably wouldn't be able to dime the Blues Jr., but I think that'd be your best bet for getting a gigging amp that won't destroy your hearing.

All of that aside, you need to actually go try these amps out. The Blues Jr. is going to sound different from the the Hot Rod Deluxe. If you like the Deluxe's tone over the Blues Jr.'s, get it, regardless of what I just said about volume.
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Also i've seen used Hot Rod Deluxe amps for a hundred dollars more, is it worth saving a little more and getting that?


I've seen the Hot Rod used for the price of a new Blues Jr., that's route I'd take if I were you. You could certainly play it in your bedroom. You could play a 1000W tube amp in your room, you just won't get the best out of it. That doesn't mean it won't sound good.

As for your original question, the Blues Jr. should be noticably louder than your AD30. The 5W Epi VJ rivals that Vox in volume. But I agree with WlCmToTheJungle, in that I'd want at least 30W tube to gig with.

You're gonna get burned if you try to trade that amp in, too, BTW. Sell it privately, you'll do much better. I just got $165 for mine. I'd be surprised if the guitar store gave you much more than $100, if that.
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Thanks for all the advice guys. Is ebay a good place to sell?

I can also try gear adds on here.

And yeah i'll try both out this week at the store thanks again.
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I've had nothing but trouble with eBay. Others have had great luck, but I haven't. I try to sell myself to musicians I know. Myspace might also be a good place to find people.
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Try one out, it seems pretty good for your styles (just get an OD and fuzz).
And it can handle small gigging and can definately get over drums.
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it should work fine, but if your drummer is crazy then i dunno. I had a 30 watt SS amp and when i tried it out with my drummer i couldnt hear shit at 10. And everyone told me it could cut through a drummer, id personally never gig with less than 30 watts tube

That's because the percieved volume of a 30 watt ss amp is equivelent to a 12 watt tube amp. Factor of 2.5.
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#13
Well I played a Blues Jr. in the store today and may I say wow. I could get some nice tones pretty easily, with some messing around I got a heavy AC/DC sound and got some great reverb drenched cleans aswell. Plus I only had to mess with the knbos for a minute or two to find those sounds.

It was definately as loud, if not more loud than my ad30vt and alot more pleasing at higher volumes.

I tlaked to the guys in the shop, and they do know what they're doing being professional musicians and such, they said it would sound fine miced up. But my guitar teacher who teaches there said I may want 40 watts to really play with a drummer. Any ideas if he's right?

He does gig professionally and has been playing for a long time.

Oh I also played a Crate V16 it was really nice but I liked the Blues Jr. a tad bit more due to the controls but that Crate was a sweet amp.
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If you don't have a PA to mic up to it, then 40 watts is probably better. I prefer lower wattage as it's easier to have power tube saturation without blowing people's faces off.

That's kind of the difference between a tube amp and a SS amp as far as achievable volume. Once a SS amp starts to clip, it sounds like crap. Once a tube amp starts to clip...well...that's what we call distortion.
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Thanks for all the advice guys. Is ebay a good place to sell?


Do you have an active Craig's List by you? That's where I've done best. You see AD30VT's on eBay quite a bit, you can check out the completed sales to see what they're selling for. Shipping an amp is a bit of a PITA, but you can fudge the shipping and probably get a decent number for it.

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But my guitar teacher who teaches there said I may want 40 watts to really play with a drummer. Any ideas if he's right?

He does gig professionally and has been playing for a long time.

Oh I also played a Crate V16 it was really nice but I liked the Blues Jr. a tad bit more due to the controls but that Crate was a sweet amp.


There are folks here who gig with the Blues Jr., but I'm of the feeling that you want at least 30W to gig with. You'll get over a drummer with the BJ, but you probably won't be able to do it clean.

I got a V16 for my son, it's a nice amp. If you like that one, they also make a 30W version, and tonight I saw the V32 quarter stack in person for the first time. Pretty cool.

Definitely look used! In that same Guitar center, they had a Hot Rod Deville for $400, and an Evil Twin for $500. You can really maximize your money on the used market.
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If you don't have a PA to mic up to it, then 40 watts is probably better. I prefer lower wattage as it's easier to have power tube saturation without blowing people's faces off.

Agreed.

I've gigged the Blues Junior and couldn't get near full volume. Our drummers loud, very loud (not miced). And although our venues have been moderate sized affairs I was well impressed.
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mmm I'm getting my Blues Junior soon, i cant wait, i hooked up a Jekyll and Hyde Ultimate Overdrive to it and got some amazing tones out of it, i'd suggest checking out the pedal if you dont have an OD i got my off ebay in almost brand new condition for 60 bucks, less then half of what it is new.
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#18
My Blues Jr can easily compete with a drummer.
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#19
yeah it's pretty loud. i get over my (moderate) drummer no problem.
also i find speaker add ons and swaps also add loudness.

i think if u're REALLY not sure, and have about $670USD for a resealed Vox AC30...

http://www.zzounds.com/item--VOXAC30CC
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oh man, i know. it's like hmm, do u want a pretty good amp. or the mutha of all amps!

and if u think about it. wt the blues jr, ur adding a jekyl and hyde or maybe a new speaker so hmm, i think the AC is cheaper!
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Well right now I have about $400, so I could probably save a bit more and get the AC30 over the summer.

I tried the AC30 in the store but couldn't figure out how to use it. I got some clean sounds but I couldn't get any OD.....

I saw an AC15 aswell any comments on that?

I'm just wondering if 15 watts is sufficient with a drummer there were some mixed answers and it seems that 30 watts is the safe way to go....
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#23
^honestly. it really depends.

there is no 100% answer.

i went thru the same thing asking everyone before i bought mine. turned out fine for me. but depends on ur band, the gig size and how often ull mic it.

something like a 30 watt gives u room to grow.
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#24
fender amps are amazing my blues gets feckin loud and it goes over my rythyn gats marshall/orange setup and they are flippin loud too blues all the way man and i took it on tiur once and it stood up to a week of shows ina row
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