#1
Hi
Guyz im planning to get Ashdown MAG C210 300W amp for my bass. No shop in the neighborhood has it, and apparetly it has a good reputation, so im gonna order it online. Can u plz tell me if its good for metal? Possibly provide a couple of samples?

Now im in two bands, and the other one plays some pop/funk style. Now would it stand up in both situations, or is there something better for the job? My budget is $500 and im playing an Ibanez SR505 bass. Plz reply soon.

Oh and im planning to buy Behringer Bass V-Amp for live situations with PA. I've heard it works pretty fine. What do u say about it? Worth the 100 bucks?
#2
Yes. I have the Mag 300 head and the Mag 4x10 by ashdown and i've only gotten compliments on my sound live. its absolutely amazing amp. if you click the myspace link in my signature, and watch the first vid there u can here it with both my precision and my fretless bass. awsome sounding i recommend it for sure.
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#4
Whoa this place speaks fast! Thanks a lot guyz. Thakns for the link, epy! U guyz are pretty good. But what is its response to distortion? Good, or just so so?

And about Behringer, I know about their reputation, and thts why im skeptical about buying the Bass V-Amp, but a lot of ppl have told me that the case is not the same with the Bass V-Amp, and its pretty well made & sounds good. I just wanted a precise opinion, not just comment on their too-well-known reputation.
#5
Quote by Bassface_505
Whoa this place speaks fast! Thanks a lot guyz. Thakns for the link, epy! U guyz are pretty good. But what is its response to distortion? Good, or just so so?


yea to distortion is good. we did a version of pink floyds have a cigar, which i used a phaser and distortion with, and im doing the same thing with an upcomming shower were we are playing hello time bomb by matt good


edit: i think if u click the SECOND video on that myspace page, it has the have a cigar song with the distortion on it. check that out too its near the endish area

about 9 minutes in


edit2: now that i listen to it, i don't know if i had the distortion on for it.....cna't tell i have crappy speakers on this computer.
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Last edited by epy at Feb 21, 2007,
#6
Hmm, I played a gig with an Ashdown and didn't like it's tone at all for metal. I wouldn't go for one. Try and have a play with one though, that's the best thing that you can do
#8
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Hmm, I played a gig with an Ashdown and didn't like it's tone at all for metal. I wouldn't go for one. Try and have a play with one though, that's the best thing that you can do


I agree, IMHO I don't think it's a metal amp. But it's a good all rounder. But it's not poor for metal, just not specialist for it.

But at the end of the day, if you like it while playing metal, that's perfectly valid. There are very few rights and wrongs in music.
#9
I completely forgot about ashdown. its reasonably affordable (the mag 300 is £215ish and the 4x10 is £200!) and i think they sound pretty good
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#10
Quote by Chimpy101
Hmm, I played a gig with an Ashdown and didn't like it's tone at all for metal. I wouldn't go for one. Try and have a play with one though, that's the best thing that you can do


Did you have time to EQ it though? I personally feel I can get a great metal tone out of it.
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#11
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Did you have time to EQ it though? I personally feel I can get a great metal tone out of it.



thats one of the major gripes, theres so many little knobs its a complete bitch to EQ
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#12
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thats one of the major gripes, theres so many little knobs its a complete bitch to EQ


haha, it's only a 5 band EQ. it's not that bad, personally i'd like a 7 band as found on the ABM series.
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#13
I really do recommend Ashdown, my next amp is going to be an ABM head and cab hopefully.
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#14
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Did you have time to EQ it though? I personally feel I can get a great metal tone out of it.


No! I didn't I used it for a gig where I was thrown up onto the stage and had about 30 seconds to fiddle with the amp. Just so happend to be the shittest gig I have ever played....
#15
Quote by epy
Yes. I have the Mag 300 head and the Mag 4x10 by ashdown and i've only gotten compliments on my sound live. its absolutely amazing amp. if you click the myspace link in my signature, and watch the first vid there u can here it with both my precision and my fretless bass. awsome sounding i recommend it for sure.


Epy, I love your band for covering Matthew Good.

EDIT: And Incubus! *keeps watching to see what else*

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#16
I use an Ashdown MAG300 in my metal band... it works great, sounds awesome and loud volumes. It's all about the mids baby Scoop those mids and it will sound like balls.
#17
I've decided. i'm skinting myself for a few months and getting a Mag. Although, what do you think i should get, the 2x12 or the 1x15? i know 1x12 isn't enough to push it, and a 4x10 is too heavy
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#18
Does anyone know what an ABM head sounds like through a MAG cab? Or is it worth just saving for the ABM cab?
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#19
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I've decided. i'm skinting myself for a few months and getting a Mag. Although, what do you think i should get, the 2x12 or the 1x15? i know 1x12 isn't enough to push it, and a 4x10 is too heavy


I would definetly go with the 2x12 over the 1x15.
#20
Quote by IndieMetalhead
I've decided. i'm skinting myself for a few months and getting a Mag. Although, what do you think i should get, the 2x12 or the 1x15? i know 1x12 isn't enough to push it, and a 4x10 is too heavy

2x12! I need a cab for my Ashdown EB12-180, the 12" sounds like a gignatic fart at high volumes . Thats £180 down the drain.

EDIT- Although it's awesome at low volumes.
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#21
Do they even do a 2x12? I just checked the site and there's no mention of one...
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#22
Quote by Forcemaster
Do they even do a 2x12? I just checked the site and there's no mention of one...
There is little call for 2x12s when 1x15 does the job better, also 2x12s are more expensivem than 1x15.
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#23
John, its just the higher end response you won't get from a 1x15. I'm not saying you won't hear it, but it won't be anywhere near crisp enough.

force, you can get a MAG T210 as far as i know

edit: actually, are there cheaper better cabs?
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#24
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John, its just the higher end response you won't get from a 1x15. I'm not saying you won't hear it, but it won't be anywhere near crisp enough.

force, you can get a MAG T210 as far as i know

edit: actually, are there cheaper better cabs?



That's a 2x10 though, your post said 2x12?


To be honest, a 4x10 isn't that heavy and will give you added depth that you will definately miss with a 2x10.
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#25
Quote by IndieMetalhead
John, its just the higher end response you won't get from a 1x15. I'm not saying you won't hear it, but it won't be anywhere near crisp enough.
force, you can get a MAG T210 as far as i know edit: actually, are there cheaper better cabs?
One of the reasons that speakers of different sizes get pigeon holed is because amp/cab manufacturers buy stock speakers regardless of what they put in their sales blurb about speakers specialy designed for them in most cases it means all the trimming taken off, the way that a speaker responds is more down to its construction than size, a very common sight some years ago was to see alluminium centre dust covers especialy on JBL speakers, this would extend the upper frequency response considerably.
The bite from the 70s Fender Twin Revereb combo was down to the 12" JBL D120s alluminium dust covers.
Many loudspeaker manufacturers have cut down on their range of speakers offered as standard.
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#26
Quote by Forcemaster
That's a 2x10 though, your post said 2x12?


To be honest, a 4x10 isn't that heavy and will give you added depth that you will definately miss with a 2x10.


whoops

sorry
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#27
Cool. Alright im going for Ashdown. But now another question. Should I get a head-cab, or should I go for a combo? Im seriously leaning towards a head-cab combination. What I have in mind is to get a head, and then put together a 2x10 cab & a 1x15 cab. U get the rumble, and u get the tight sound, choose what u want to use, and go! Also im planning to use 1x15 at home for practice, while keep 2x10 at our jam place. Just transport the head. But can both cabs be used at the same time? Can somebody plz explain the ohms & impedance etc. as I have never really concentrated on them before, and now im getting really interested. Thanks so far.

Oh, and just curious, what are the Holy Grail amps in bass world? Like there is JCM800, 900, Dual & Triple Reco, 5150, etc. in guitar, so whts those for bass? Name some of those plz, I know major companies' names.
#28
Ashdown = Good????

Ashdown = Amazing.
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#29
Quote by Bassface_505
Cool. Alright im going for Ashdown. But now another question. Should I get a head-cab, or should I go for a combo? Im seriously leaning towards a head-cab combination. What I have in mind is to get a head, and then put together a 2x10 cab & a 1x15 cab. U get the rumble, and u get the tight sound, choose what u want to use, and go! Also im planning to use 1x15 at home for practice, while keep 2x10 at our jam place. Just transport the head. But can both cabs be used at the same time? Can somebody plz explain the ohms & impedance etc. as I have never really concentrated on them before, and now im getting really interested. Thanks so far.

Oh, and just curious, what are the Holy Grail amps in bass world? Like there is JCM800, 900, Dual & Triple Reco, 5150, etc. in guitar, so whts those for bass? Name some of those plz, I know major companies' names.

Holy Grail amps? I'd say any of the better stuff from the high end companies (Ashdown, Eden, Trace-Elliot, Gallien-Krueger). I can't think of model numbers, sorry.

Impedance is how much resistance the electrical current is facing.

Yes, you can use two cabs with the MAG. In fact, you have to to get the full 300 watts out of the head. If you only use one, you only get 185 watts, apparently.
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#30
Quote by Bassface_505
Oh, and just curious, what are the Holy Grail amps in bass world? Like there is JCM800, 900, Dual & Triple Reco, 5150, etc. in guitar, so whts those for bass? Name some of those plz, I know major companies' names.


That's hard to say, since in my experience there is far more tonal variation between bass amps than there is between guitar amps. Ampeg, GK, Ashdown, and Eden amps pop to mind, though.
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#31
Quote by hatebreed219
Ashdown = Good????Ashdown = Amazing.

I've heard rumours of late from inside the industry about quality issues at Ashdown,
this was somewhat confirmed when Ashdown sent a 'Superfly' to the Bass Guitar Magazine for a review; there appeared to be two problems one being that unpleasant noises came from the DI output when the amp was switched off, the other was the difficulty operating the push buttons in live situations as they sometimes required a second push.
The DI would appear to be a component fault which should have been checked out at quality control especialy when you know that it is to be reviewed/scrutinised.
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#32
^ john, same here. I was in a shop in chetenham, the owner is a studio session bassist. He was telling me when i was tring out some amps that i should stay clear from ashdowns. Good for 5 minuites, but there durability and general quality diminishes. He said that it was the overall quality of the soldering and quality of the componants that make up the amps which were the problems. He said they have improved, but i would be better going for a Peavey or Marshall etc
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