#1
hey guys.

I've been having problems with my singer lately. We've only had him for about a month, and I think i've realized it was a big mistake. His lyrics don't make any sense, and he just plain can't sing. We just recorded our music, and its up on myspace, and everyone says he sucks. The only thing is, he's a really good friend to everyone in the band, and we don't want to kick him out, and never be talking to him again.

Anyone have any experiance on this before and wants to share some advice?

thanks
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#2
I would maybe recommend him to get singing lessons to ''tune up'' and if he refuses just tell him he just plain sucks.

I think most bands have shit singers and they can still get decent gigs. If you intend to stick with this band for life, kick him out.
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#4
happened to me, with my first drummer. Don't tell other people before you tell them, it only makes things worse. If your friends, he'll understand, and won't hold it against you for too long. lol.

Tell him in person, use the "It's not you it's me" line. hahahaha, bands are so much like relationships, it's creepy.
#5
yeah, talk to him about it, but be cool, cuz i know when my band kicked me out for just plain bein better then they were, i wish they woulda done that
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#6
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#7
Bands are WORSE than relationships. The reason being you have close relations with 2-5 other guys instead of one other person.

The first thing I'm going to tell you is to never hire a close friend for a band again. There was this one guy in high school I played with for YEARS. He was considered a friend because we went out to places besides for music. Around last year I knew damn well that if wasn't a musician also, I wouldn't be friends with him. Our personalities don't mix at all. His last band with me was Fall 2005. It was obvious he wasn't right for this band and he had a lot of personal issues (Like the fact that he was 21, didn't drive, had no job or money, etc.) When we went to kick him out he started crying claiming that the band was the only thing he had....which unforuntatly was the truth. He then promised he would change but we knew it was a lie.

It's been over a year since then and he's now in a band with a mutual friend and 2 15 year old girls. He still doesn't have a DL, job, or money and constantly still talks trash about his former band members. I tried to be considerate and offered him a job as a roadie for my new band which he turned down.

The point is, you have to think what the goal of your band is and is this guy right. If we kept that one guy in our band, we wouldn't have done what we accomplished.
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#9
Do what everyone does and say he's a good singer but doesn't fit the band's style.
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#10
I prefer various stonewalling techniques. That and just telling them they just suck.

I regret never telling my last drummer this. He is probably the worst drummer on the face of the planet, yet he went on and on about talent. He refused to play a straight forward punk, 4/4 beat because it takes no talent to play that, yet he always played a 4/4 beat with that dotted eighth thrown in, even when it didn't fit. He didn't understand that every instrument is there to serve the song, not to do something completely different because it's your self expression or whatever. Self-expression is such a dumb excuse for not contributing to a band. If something doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. If your singer doesn't fit, kick him out.

Also post links to your MySpace. Let us be the judge.
#11
Man, teenage highschool bands, fun. The best way is to hold your balls and just tell him that your going to get a new singer or he doesn't need to be in the band. Now that i'm thinking about it, the highschool bands are really the only bands that have felt like relationships. If everybody was a serious musician, and not just intrumentalists and best friends, it'd be easier. what ever, just a thought.


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#12
where do u live ill join ur band
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#13
Behead Him!!(so he cant sing)
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#14
If your singer also plays another instrument, this need not be a problem. Just say you want to get a frontman with a different style, and would be mind, say, just playing guitar for a while. This is how my band at high school went about getting rid of me. They didn't like my singing style (I was a chorister, they wanted someone who sounded like James Hetfield) so I played base for a while before being replaced. At least I still got to play with them while we were at school.
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#15
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hey guys.

I've been having problems with my singer lately. We've only had him for about a month, and I think i've realized it was a big mistake. His lyrics don't make any sense, and he just plain can't sing. We just recorded our music, and its up on myspace, and everyone says he sucks. The only thing is, he's a really good friend to everyone in the band, and we don't want to kick him out, and never be talking to him again.

Anyone have any experiance on this before and wants to share some advice?

thanks


Ask Dave Mustaine, I'm sure has written a book in a ficticious name on creative ways to kick people out of a band. Such tips as: Accuse the member in question of having a drug problem. Plant a fews ounces of heroin in thier guitar amp at next practice, and while all friends around, go, "Hey what is this?"

or.....

You could also just go with the good ol', "This band wants to play music outside of your interests, take a hike."

or.....
get wasted this sunday on st. patty's and act like you want to have gay sex with him...this should drive him off for good....but if he reacts in a way unlooked for......well tell him, "This isn't the ****ing san francisco orchestra, the last thing we need is male roadie....get the **** out!"
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Ask Dave Mustaine, I'm sure has written a book in a ficticious name on creative ways to kick people out of a band. Such tips as: Accuse the member in question of having a drug problem. Plant a fews ounces of heroin in thier guitar amp at next practice, and while all friends around, go, "Hey what is this?"

or.....

You could also just go with the good ol', "This band wants to play music outside of your interests, take a hike."

or.....
get wasted this sunday on st. patty's and act like you want to have gay sex with him...this should drive him off for good....but if he reacts in a way unlooked for......well tell him, "This isn't the ****ing san francisco orchestra, the last thing we need is male roadie....get the **** out!"

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#18
My formal opinion, tatics aside, would be to be efficient and clean about it. If you leave him no doubt weather he is still in the band, this is the best. Tell him the straight up truth, with no harshness or attiude absent.
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#19
Do as me and all of my friends do when we kick out a member. Split the whole band, and reunite a week later.

So professional and uncowardly...
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Do as me and all of my friends do when we kick out a member. Split the whole band, and reunite a week later.

So professional and uncowardly...


hahaha thats a awsome idea