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Right well I'm planning on getting the Oragne Tiny terror but don't want to pay loads for a cab and I fancy building my own.
I've read the sticky guide, since its a guitar cab it seems I won't be having to many problems in terms of dealing with the low Hz and what not.
However, I have no idea where to go in terms of speakers?
I was just browsing on eBay and there are so many I have no idea what to get.
Considering I want to keep this bellow £50 any suggestions for speakers for a 2x12?
I'm assuming I will want two 8 ohm speakers wired in parrallel or 2 4ohm in series?

Cheers!

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#2
Anyone?

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#3
Eminence makes good, cheap speakers.

What impedance are you looking for? Those options you mentioned don't give the same impedance.
#4
Impendance? Oh right resistance.

Anything that will work with the Tiny Terror Orange Tube head considering I will be using 2 speakers.

So any speaker from Eminence will work?

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#5
Celestion blues, or greenbacks (i think)

It's a fairly low wattage amp, right? if that's the case, low wattage speakers will make it sound far more "alive".
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its a 15W tube but its rated the english way so it can be c ompared to a 30W tube according to the site

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thats if you are making a 2x12 cab you can fit the speakers perfectly and get great sound from watever box encasing you use(solid wood only!!!)
#10
This is not too hard to do - in fact it's pretty fun and easy. Just don't put a screw driver through the speaker when you are attaching it, like I did.

First, make the box out of wood. I choose pine because I have access to a bunch of it, but I'm going to use plywood next time. The dimensions don't matter. People will tell you acoustics and all kinds of stuff - means nothing.

I purchased plastic pieces for all the ends. Next, you need the connectors for the input and speaker wire. Mount them, solder, and you're ready to go. You should match your impendence to the OHM rating.

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Ok well apparently there are multiple impedance speakers outputs (1 X 16 ohm, 2 X 8 ohm).

Is it ok to make the box out of MDF?

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Ok well apparently there are multiple impedance speakers outputs (1 X 16 ohm, 2 X 8 ohm).

Is it ok to make the box out of MDF?


MDF is too heavy and gives you cancer if you inhale the dust. 1/2" ply works best.
To theluckydog124 - acoustics can play a huge part in the bass response of the cab. At least try and bass the cabinet of a pre-existing model so you're in the ballpark with dimension.
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Ok but I heard that plywood splinters like a bitch and is hard to work with.

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Ok but I heard that plywood splinters like a bitch and is hard to work with.

MDF might be a little easier to work with, but it's a lot heavier, inhibits some frequencies, falls to pieces when it gets wet, isn't as durable to bumps and scratches, wears the shit out of your tools and can give you cancer.
I think I know which one I'd prefer. Head down to your local hardware store, a lot of places use half-inch ply for pallets and packing. I managed to pick up a full sheet for $25
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birch ply^ woot!


ive got eminence speakers, and just ordered weber speakers.
i suggest u check them both out. see what u can afford.

just note: also, if ur lining out from an 8 ohm output from the amp (just using 8 as an example.)
then u'd need two 16 ohm speakers in ur cab to = 8ohm,
or one 8 ohm speaker to = 8 ohm.

so make sure u know what combination u want before u order.
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Ok well I will need a 2x8ohm combo, I went on the speaker sites but other than the ohms and the cone diameter (12") I have no idea what to go for in terms of wattage?
This is a 15W all tube head btw.

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Just make sure you're about the amp wattage, 1.5x is usually a safe margin. I don't think Celestion, Weber, or Eminence make speakers that are rated at less than 25 watts, so any speaker will do fine.

You might want to choose a quite low wattage, so you can get a little bit of speaker breakup, which won't happen with a 60 watt speaker.
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Ok well I will need a 2x8ohm combo, I went on the speaker sites but other than the ohms and the cone diameter (12") I have no idea what to go for in terms of wattage?
This is a 15W all tube head btw.



a 2x8 ohm cab will be used if ur runnin out from a 4ohm output. (just letting u know.)
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a 2x8 ohm cab will be used if ur runnin out from a 4ohm output. (just letting u know.)


Really?

I always thought that resistance in series simply added up so I figured 2x8 would equate to 16ohms?

What's speaker break up?

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Ah ok thanks. So GCSE electronics is ****ing paying off...

Regarding the jack input, where would I get one of those? eBay?

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They do. She musta thought you were wiring in parallel.
Speaker break up is distortion.


i did. yeah matters how u wire them too.
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#25
Is it better to wire in parrallel rather than series or dose it only matter if you want 2 or 4 speakers?

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Is it better to wire in parrallel rather than series or dose it only matter if you want 2 or 4 speakers?


It all depends on what ohmage your speakers and what your amp accepts. There isn't any real benefit doing one of the other, providing the ohmage is correct.
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Ok thanks a lot people. I'll put pics up once I get down to doing the project which will be during the holidays (april).

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Right well I'm doing some research and was just wondering if this is all I needed in terms of inputs for my cab?
I assume I want a mono one like this: http://www.triodeelectronics.com/1-4swmonosh.html

What kind of cable will I need to connect the head and cab?

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So its like a 1/4 to a 1/4?

Im sorry Ive never had a proper amp, how am I m eant to know!

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Fair enough.

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#33
Right so I'm getting this thing done now but I have a few questions.

1. Bearing in mind I have 2 Vintage 30s on their way, will the holes in the baffle have to be 12" or smaller/bigger?

2. Is this what I need for the speaker input?

3. What kind of wires do I need to wire the speakers together and to the mono jack and which one goes to which terminal on the jack itself?

Thanks.

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Check the celestion site. The baffle hole will be about 11.1" so just check to make sure.


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#36
Ah forgot about the tutorial.

Ok so for the wire: thick.
Cut-out: 11.1"

Anyone tell me whether or not the mono jack in my previous post is suitable?
And does it matter which way around I wire the jack to the speakers?

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Anyone?

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Ok people, progress so far:

Speakers arrive.






What to do.....what to do..............


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Gluing side panels to 2/2" with speakers as weights:


Gluing first side panel to bottom panel:


And the other one....


And now the top panel:


Semi finished products with the baffle just pushed in (veeeeeeery nice and flush apart from about 2mm open at top, will sort that leak with silicon.

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