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#1
this is just a quick question i dont want this to turn into a huge discssion is there a law that people have to stand for the pledge i know that you dont have to say it but do you have to stand?

thanks
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this is just a quick question i dont want this to turn into a huge discssion is there a law that people have to stand for the pledge i know that you dont have to say it but do you have to stand?

thanks


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#3
Be warned, if you go long enough without standing, they'll call the cops on you. Really. Oh well, it was time out of class for me.
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#4
do you know where i coudl find some writen proof for that?
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#5
If you don't stand you're a dirty commie
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#6
There's no law. And most teachers allow you to sit. But I always stand because I've seen some smart kids that didn't stand but got straight on the teacher's bad side by doing so.
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#7
No, but your school teachers are gonna make you do it anyway. (EDIT: I realize I just totally contradicted the person above me. Oh well.) In that case, just change the words and mutter them under your breath. Be sure to keep a straight face.

"I pledge allegiance
To queen frag
And her mighty state
Of hysteria.
And to..."

...That's all I got, and it was from Calvin and Hobbes.
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#8
Unconstitutional to say you have to, if I wanted I could pledge allegiance to the Confederate states of America which doesn't seem like such a bad idea....
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#9
You don't HAVE to, but in most schools (atleast all of the ones i've been to) its generally done. Now a days, everyone is getting all P.C. over the "one nation under god" thing, but it doesn't really bother me. If you want to sit, sit. If you want to stand, stand. If they give you any Sh!t about it, sue em. Back in 1st-7th grade we used to have to listen to it through a loud speaker every day. Now 9th, 10th, and this year, its only at assembly's or MAYBE once in a while. I generally sit because I'm really tired at 7:30 in the morining


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#10
nah you don't have to, I don't at least. But if anyone tries to force you(like the jerk teacher in my homeroom) tell them that they are infringing on your constitutional rights and go make them read the first ammendment to you(I did it and made my point)
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Unconstitutional to say you have to, if I wanted I could pledge allegiance to the Confederate states of America which doesn't seem like such a bad idea....



thats a good idea i should try it tomarrow
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#12
How hard is it to stand up for a couple seconds while they program some pointless pledge into our minds?
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#13
i forgot to stand once in my first block class and my teacher gave me hell so im trying to get alot of into on but if someone can get like offical shit say that i would be really greatful because im stuck
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#14
i always stand but i usually play the star spangled banner behind it


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#15
i always stand but i usually play the star spangled banner behind it


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#16
i always stand but i usually play the star spangled banner behind it


(music class)
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#17
Don't have to stand and theres no law that says you do. Ever since gay marriage was banned in Wisconsin (where I live) I've vowed to not even stand for the pledge. I used to at least stand .. though I probably haven't said it since 9th grade.

Freedom and justice for all? Yeah, maybe when thats not a blatant lie I'll stand up again.
#18
It's not about whether you're ass tired or not.

It's a way to pay respects to the people who have given their lives for our great country. It's the same with the National Anthem.

If you can't do that little symbol of gratitude for the people who made America what it is today, to give you the freedom disgrace them, what does that say about you?
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#19
Fight the system, don't be a slave!!! I haven't stood for the pledge and I'm in ROTC, course I get ragged on by the other cadets in that brainwashing class.
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i always stand but i usually play the star spangled banner behind it


(music class)


how did you manage to post that three times?
#22
Heh, I didn't stand the first time and when my teacher told me to I refused. Ironically, instead of getting in trouble, I had earned respect for my willingness to stand by my decision. I was happy, its the little battles that you win against teachers that keep you sane. Same way for bosses too.....

Oh, Calvin and Hobbes kick some mighty ass.
#25
I'll sometimes say the pledge, I always stand because I'll honor the country. I WON'T say "under god". Instead I say "Under the wrathful Oden"
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No, but your school teachers are gonna make you do it anyway. (EDIT: I realize I just totally contradicted the person above me. Oh well.) In that case, just change the words and mutter them under your breath. Be sure to keep a straight face.

"I pledge allegiance
To queen frag
And her mighty state
Of hysteria.
And to..."

...That's all I got, and it was from Calvin and Hobbes.


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It's not about whether you're ass tired or not.

It's a way to pay respects to the people who have given their lives for our great country. It's the same with the National Anthem.

If you can't do that little symbol of gratitude for the people who made America what it is today, to give you the freedom disgrace them, what does that say about you?



It's a persons right to not stand, if you force or ridicule someone for not standing you're completely underminding the people who fought and died for that, and all our rights. I say if you don't feel like it don't stand.
#30
There were these two preppy cheerleader girls (sluts) who figured they were too damn good to say it, so they didn't. They got sent to the office. Wierd thing is, one of their dads is a major in the US army...Go figure.
#31
2003 District ruling Teachers or any other staff cannot be forced to participate in the pledge, either: “It doesn’t matter whether you’re a teacher, a student, a citizen, an administrator, or anyone else, it is beyond the power of the authority of government to compel the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance,” - U.S. District Judge Lewis Babcock

do you think thats enough proof to prove my point?
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#32
I don't think they should have gotten sent to the office. I think they just wanted attention, and the teachers saw it more as a cry for help or an act of defience. My school's faculty are all dumbasses, for the most part.
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do you know where i coudl find some writen proof for that?


Are you planning on trying to be a badass and not saying the pledge of allegiance but not wanting to get into trouble for it?
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Are you planning on trying to be a badass and not saying the pledge of allegiance but not wanting to get into trouble for it?



it has nothing to do with being a badass my teacher flipped out at me if its agaisnt the law for not standing so be it. but it doesnt havent anything to do with what i beleave its just about whats fair. i also really dont care about getting in trouble its not a big deal
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No, but your school teachers are gonna make you do it anyway. (EDIT: I realize I just totally contradicted the person above me. Oh well.) In that case, just change the words and mutter them under your breath. Be sure to keep a straight face.

"I pledge allegiance
To queen frag
And her mighty state
Of hysteria.
And to..."

...That's all I got, and it was from Calvin and Hobbes.


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#36
You do not have to. It is simple as that.
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#37
Thousands of troops have died to ensure that you have the right to not say it.
#38
I always enjoyed the pledge of allegiance. I do remember getting in trouble once for mockingly saying it when i was like 7, but oh well. Since most people are christian in the U.S., I don't see much problem with having it. If people don't want to say it, then they don't have to.

It's the whole seperation of church and state thing that people get mixed up. It doesn't say that they have to be seperate, people translate that wrong. What it means is that their will be no state or government mandated by one church. So that doesn't say take church out of school or the pledge of allegiance out, or even the 10 commandments. So what that says is if muslims or buddhist have something, they technically could put something in there too.
#39
If you're talking about school, I didn't stand, got sent to the deans office and they said I had to write a note
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#40
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Don't have to stand and theres no law that says you do. Ever since gay marriage was banned in Wisconsin (where I live) I've vowed to not even stand for the pledge. I used to at least stand .. though I probably haven't said it since 9th grade.

Freedom and justice for all? Yeah, maybe when thats not a blatant lie I'll stand up again.



Yeah Same thing with me when I used to live there. The thing with the pledge is...During the 7 years I lived there, maybe once or twice we actually talked about the meaning of the pledge. As I could see, many people around me percieved it as another mindless robotic ritual we had to do to get through the day. To many, there was no concious purpose in saying it or not saying it. There is alot of corruption in this country, why don't we just honor the "liberty and justice for ALL" part?
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