#1
hey, i've got this prob, i've got a gibson les paul studio, ranning through a shity fender 25R amp and a G2.1 multi effect pedal, the guitar has great sustain, the problem is that it's not enough, how can i get my guitar to sustain more,( like gilmour does).

any ideas on what to do?
#3
more drive
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#4
You could just jack up the gain or use a compressor box, or you could look into getting a sustainer. Both work.
#5
how much does a sustainer cost?!
the amp is SHIT, i baught it just because i spent most of the money i had for the guitar itself!
#6
hmm. I'd recommend getting a better amp first. But The Big Muff pedal is great. Gilmore used the big muff with floyd. Get a tube amp first though
#7
do the slash/duane allman/zakk wylde/etc stringing.
put the string through the stopbar backwards
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+1 with forshanklezzz (sorry, I just love calling you that...)
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+1 with forshanklezzz (sorry, I just love calling you that...)

You've done it before? You sunuva...
At first I thought you were talking to somebody named forshanklezz...but...yeah.

But seriously, a new amp will impact your sustain and tone more than ANY of those pedals or tips. The Frontman is pretty terrible. How much money are you willing to spend?
#12
i still wonder why u can't get sustain from a les paul...
like if u have a floyd rose, then i see.
but not a les paul... they're meant to have sustain next to the ES355s...
aren't they?
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Quote by forsaknazrael
It's just because he's playing through a Frontman. Terrible amp.

lol, everything sounds the same on that amp.
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Quote by Jinskee
lol, everything sounds the same on that amp.


I'm the only one that thinks that it's fine for it's price ?
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I'm the only one that thinks that it's fine for it's price ?






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What amp would you recommend me for that price?
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#18
Quote by ECistheBest
do the slash/duane allman/zakk wylde/etc stringing.
put the string through the stopbar backwards



what do you mean backwards?!
the guitar sustained great at the shop, they used a peavey there! the amp sucks!
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^New thread .
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#20
Quote by slashh_88
what do you mean backwards?!
the guitar sustained great at the shop, they used a peavey there! the amp sucks!

Does that actually work?...

I mean...seriously.
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What kinda Peavey? Peavey actually make some good amps.


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Gilmour, Gary Moore, Santana etc...it all boils down to one thing - volume and quality of tone. Okay, that's two things, volume and quality of tone...

...and manipulation of feedback. Damn, three things...

Where was I? Oh yeah...sustain depends on three things, volume, quality of tone, and feedback.

...oh, and the guitar of course....FOUR!!! FOUR things....

Basically, you need the right gear to make the most of your guitars natural sustaining properties. You need a good, solid tone with a healthy chunk of midrange for starters. You also need a lot of volume, what happens is you hit a note, and it creates soundwaves from the speaker. These vibrations in the air affect the strings....a fixed bridge guitar with a good amount of sustain will be more subsceptible to this. These sympathetic vibrations are picked up by the, well, pickups, and come back out of the speaker as more sound waves...hence perpetuating the note. That's why you need plenty of midrange, the guitar is a midrange instrument...it resonates strongest at those frequencies. Therefore, you need to be producing plenty of them in order to get it to respond best.

Essentially it's careful manipulation of feedback, let it get out of hand and you'll get howls which might be what you want. You just need to know how to play the space between your guitar and amp - you'll be surprised at how easy it actually is. Unfortunately solid state feedback sounds pretty nasty so it works best with tube amps as you get a lot more feedback headroom. With a solid state amp you can go from singing sustain to a godawful screech without any warning.
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#25
More gain, especially overdrive. Or buy a decent overdrive pedal to boost the signal level.
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Gilmour used Big Muff, a Russian one I believe. So that combined with a decent valve amp will work wonders for your sustain.
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