#1
As I wait for the weather to get more favorable so I can continue working on my guitar, I decided that I would like to build a pedal or two. Only problem is that this would be my first time ever building a pedal, and I need a little help before I can get this off the ground.

I got my Schematics here Free Information Society. Its a great site for those who haven't already seen it. It has hundreds of pedal and amp circuits up there.

But I have a few questions about it before I can get started.

  • There seems to be a whole lot of grounds in this schematic. Are these right or am I reading it wrong?
  • Where is the 9V battery input? I think I know where it is, but I just want to be certain.
  • Did I miss anything? Anyone have any advice before I begin?


I will post pictures once I get started. I just need the answers to those questions in order to do that.
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#2
I think you shouild be building a RAT instead, but that's me.
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I think you shouild be building a RAT instead, but that's me.

I don't know what that is. I'm new to the whole pedal deal.
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#4
DS-1?
Why? Horrible pedal, IMO. Buzzsaw.

Those schems on there are wrong.
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That's a *relatively* difficult pedal for your first build, start with a LPB or something easier?
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#7
why a DS-1 possibly one of the least impressive distortion pedals out there. Andboss over complicate things way too much. Maybe look at building a Muff or Fuzz face, their easy and good sounding circuits.
#8
hmm that schematic is wrong.
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#9
Jesus, stop telling him which pedal to build! He can build what he wants! What's wrong with a DS-1 anyway? And to the guy who said only only build if it's expensive, some people enjoy just doing this stuff, so that's really stupid advice

Anyway, since people are saying the schematic is wrong, I would recommend here: http://www.tonepad.com/project.asp?id=37

Yeah, there are a lot of grounds, this is normal. In the link I put above, it also shows where to put the battery. It has a ready to transfer PCB diagram (or you can buy one ready made), and a clear diagram of where things should go on the PCB too. Very useful.

Good luck
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Jesus, stop telling him which pedal to build! He can build what he wants! What's wrong with a DS-1 anyway? And to the guy who said only only build if it's expensive, some people enjoy just doing this stuff, so that's really stupid advice

Stupid advice? It's just not really cost efficient.
If a DS-1 costs 30-40 bucks on eBay, and it costs about the same to build it....Why build it? It just doesn't make sense. I don't see a lot of sense in building boss pedals, anyway, they're fairly challenging builds, and they're readily available.
#11
Well, what I'm trying to say is, sure you could build it, but where's the fun in that? And if it's a fairly challenging build, even better. So what if you have to pay a bit more? I've spent over £100 ($200 I think) on my pedal so far, including all the tools I need and everything. I could have bought something similar for much less, but that's just completely besides the point. I wanted to build my own pedal, it's much more personal and rewarding, and good experience seeing as I intend on doing an electronics degree.

Sorry if I came across a bit rude, at first, but I just think that for most people, building their own pedal is going to be worth it, irrespective of the cost. Although, admittedly, it is rather a large bonus if it's cheaper
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Well, what I'm trying to say is, sure you could build it, but where's the fun in that? And if it's a fairly challenging build, even better. So what if you have to pay a bit more? I've spent over £100 ($200 I think) on my pedal so far, including all the tools I need and everything. I could have bought something similar for much less, but that's just completely besides the point. I wanted to build my own pedal, it's much more personal and rewarding, and good experience seeing as I intend on doing an electronics degree.

Sorry if I came across a bit rude, at first, but I just think that for most people, building their own pedal is going to be worth it, irrespective of the cost. Although, admittedly, it is rather a large bonus if it's cheaper


I get what you're saying, but in this case there's simply too many reasons not to build it:
- The Boss pedal itself is cheap(er)
- IMO, it doesn't sound very good
- It's quite complicated for a first build

Threadstarter; my advice would be to find a simpler effect to make first.
#13
Well, I think that the third point is really the only valid one (relating to the threadstarter, they may be perfectly valid reasons in your case), because your second one is only an opinion, the threadstarter may like it's tone, and I shared my opinion on your first point in my last post.

However, my advice would be the same as yours, it may be better to find a less compicated pedal.
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I've spent over £100 ($200 I think) on my pedal so far



Phew ouch! that must be quite a pedal to cost that much in parts alone! Wtf are you putting into it???


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I've spent over £100 ($200 I think) on my pedal so far, including all the tools I need and everything.


sorry ill read next time b4 opening my gob :p
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#15
Heh heh, yeah that would be expensive just on parts
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Haha, I didn't think anyone was going to respond to this thread.

How about I just clear up anything so I can end this flame fest (you can still keep at it thought, only if you want too).

I don't know very much about pedals, mostly because I haven't really gotten good enough or been looking for a certain tone in my playing. I just choose the DS-1 because it seemed like a good generic pedal to start with.

I just want to build it because I enjoy building things. I'm not really going for the cost efficience point of view. I'd much rather just buy the parts piece by piece over a long series of time, than go out and buy the whole unit (usually for a much greater cost).

End of the story is, I have to agree with you all. I think I was aiming a little high when I thought of doing this pedal. I'll mess around making a few simpler ones before I go and try to make anything that looks this complex.

Thanks for your help.
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#17
Geeze... talk about a pointless argument.

^ Don't give up so quickly my good man.

I know you don't want to buy a "whole unit" so to speak... but the BYOC kits would be great for someone like you. The have great tutorials, and step by step instructions on how to put the stuff together... their prices are also pretty good.

http://www.buildyourownclone.com/
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#18
Guys, I think that advice should be welcomed in a thread. Like, If the guy didn't want opinions, he'd post "don't tell me what else to build." I was just trying to get the guy out of a sh!itty pedal, to build something that sounds genuinely good, and save some money in the process.
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#19
I didn't think it was a flame fest

By the way, if you're looking for an easy distortion to do, then this is what I'm doing for my first build: http://www.tonepad.com/project.asp?id=2

I dunno what it's gonna sound like, but it's nice and simple. You can look at the list on tonepad, they label each pedal as beginner, intermediate or advanced.
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#20
i can make a pedal for about £10 cos resistors and capacitor only cost 17p and IC only cost £1.50 for 3.
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#21
Pyro, I am also working on a Boss DS-1, in fact started today. I agree with Loonyguitarist that the challenge is what matters the most. You'll be extremely satisfied when you've finally made this pedal(because it is difficult to make).

Making this is not at all proving to be as costly as mentioned. In fact, I'm getting all the parts for a maximum of Rs.350, which would be less than US$8 .

Pyro, I hope we will exchange notes on this build. The circuit diagram you're working on is wrong. I have the proper circuit. I'll mail it to you if you want. Stay in touch.
#22
Sounds good. I might try a simpler one (I need to work on my soldering) first, but then I will attempt this one.

Let me know how yours turns out.

And I would love the proper diagram, I'll ask you as soon as I start the project.
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#23
I think its funny how fuzz faces are such a damn expensive pedal when they are one of the most simplest.
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Let me know how yours turns out.

And I would love the proper diagram, I'll ask you as soon as I start the project.



Certainly. Will be glad to share.
#25
For those that are interested, this is a scan of an original DS-1 schematic. I used it when I was modding my one to Keeley specs.
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#26
Personally I don't get why people cal lthis so hard to build. The first electronics project I ever did was a tube amp, and aside from one minor parts related setback it went perfectly
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#28
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Why not build the one at tonepad? http://www.tonepad.com/project.asp?id=37

Hell, you can even order a ready-made PCB for a couple of dollars so all you have to do is plug in the components and go.


That's already been mentioned right near the start of the thread. I have a feeling it's not totally a DS-1 though.
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#29
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Personally I don't get why people cal lthis so hard to build. The first electronics project I ever did was a tube amp, and aside from one minor parts related setback it went perfectly

It's not that it's hard to build, it's that it's relatively difficult as compared to other FX pedals, and it's not exactly cost effective, as these pedals are available at an affordable price.