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#1
Considering the difference of price. What's the difference between the Mexican Strat and the American Strat?
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#3
Is it worth it to get a Bridge SD Humbucker for the Mexican Strat? My Mex. Strat has 3 single coiled pick ups and I was considering of upgrading it.
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Ya the quality of the components is much better on the American series. That being said, in my opinion, they have the same feel, and look about the same. The key thing for me is that the American sounds 100x better stock than a stock Mexi strat and the American will last a lot longer. Plus the fact that you get bragging rights saying that you own an American Strat.
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i thkn everyone knows the obvious answer to this question, it's obviously just the quality of how it's made and what it's made with
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#6
He asked with consideration of the price. IMO, an MIM strat is a better VALUE then an MIA, which is still a better value than a lot of other guitars. Since they upgraded in 2006, MIM's have become pretty high quality and a super value. Nothing I've played in the same price range comes close. Yeah, an MIA is better and is made with more quality, that's why it costs more. Whether or not that extra cost is worth it depends on what you want to do with it.
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Is it worth it to get a Bridge SD Humbucker for the Mexican Strat? My Mex. Strat has 3 single coiled pick ups and I was considering of upgrading it.


If you like the feel of the guitar, then it's definitely worth upgrading it's components. And I certainly don't think you'll go too far wrong when upgrading a MIM Fender. They're good guitars, great values, and worth improving. If the time ever comes to sell it, I think you get that money back, too.
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If you like the feel of the guitar, then it's definitely worth upgrading it's components. And I certainly don't think you'll go too far wrong when upgrading a MIM Fender. They're good guitars, great values, and worth improving. If the time ever comes to sell it, I think you get that money back, too.


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Quote by Ex'sAndOh's
Is it worth it to get a Bridge SD Humbucker for the Mexican Strat? My Mex. Strat has 3 single coiled pick ups and I was considering of upgrading it.
If you play music that is suited for a humbucker sound then you should upgrade it. Check to see if the guitar is routed for a humbucker, which it most likely is, and all you need is a new pickguard and some knowledge on how to solder. I put a SD TB-4 in my MIM SSS Strat and left the 250k pots in and it's still plenty bright. There seems to be some confusion out there about Fender spacing - yes you do want a Trembucker or f-spaced pickup.
#10
^u sure u need f-spaced?

i think its regular. anyway, most MIM have plenty of room for a humbucker, like said.
just swap the guard.
the bridge isnt on a tone knob anyway, so ur all set.
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^ +1 EDIT: that was to the guy above jenny. I have no idea if it's f-spaced or not, just measure the pole-pieces. It was more a +1 to the general idea.
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#13
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^u sure u need f-spaced?

i think its regular. anyway, most MIM have plenty of room for a humbucker, like said.
just swap the guard.
the bridge isnt on a tone knob anyway, so ur all set.
The pole-pieces on the TB-4 line up exactly with the strings so...yeah they need f-spaced p-ups. And I e-mailed Seymour Duncan and told them what guitar and bridge I had, and they replied that stock Fender bridges need f-spaced or trembucker p-ups.

From Dimarzios FAQ: A long time ago (in the 20th century, actually) the electric guitar world was divided between Gibson and Fender designs. One of the differences between the two was string spacing. In general, Gibson chose a narrower string spacing at the bridge than Fender, and therefore the polepieces on Gibson humbuckers were closer together than the magnets on Fender pickups. When guitar shops started installing humbuckers in the bridge position of Strats, it was obvious that the strings didn’t line up with the polepieces, and if the E strings were too far outside, the sound could suffer. Our first humbuckers followed the original Gibson spacing, and we call them standard-spaced. When we released our first humbuckers with wider spacing, Floyd Rose bridges were very popular. Floyd string-spacing is the same as Fender spacing, so we naturally called the new pickups F-spaced.
How do I know which spacing to use?
F-spaced pickups measure 2.01" (51 mm) center-to-center from the first polepiece to the sixth. Standard-spaced pickups measure 1.90" (48 mm). Although some players believe that F-spaced pickups are only for the bridge position of tremolo bridge guitars, many guitars with fixed bridges (including late 1990s Gibson Les Pauls and Epiphone LPs) should have F-spaced pickups in the bridge position. Most tremolo equipped guitars that have a nut width of 1-11/16” (43mm) or more should also use an F-spaced pickup in the neck position. If you’re replacing a bridge-position pickup and you're not sure what your string-spacing is, it's usually better to get an F-spaced model. It is not necessary for the strings to pass exactly over the center of the polepieces for best performance, but it is wise to avoid a situation where the E strings are sitting completely outside of the outer polepieces.
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#14

great info. mine line up wt the standard spaced. but u know, measure up urs and get what works best.
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Found this using google

Standard Series (Mexico)

Body: 5 to 7-piece alder with maple or birch veneer. Sunburst models have maple veneer Note: due to periodic material availability issues, alder cores are sometimes used
American Series (U.S)
Body: Current specs: 3-piece alder for solid colours and 3-tone sunburst. White blonde and natural are 2 or 3-piece ash (Non-Veneered)

Standard Series

Body Routing: 1-humbucking, 2-single coil
American Series
Body Routing: Current specs: 3-cavity universal rout(hum/sing/hum). Older models have the "swimming pool" rout

Standard Series

Body Finish: Polyester (finished in Mexico)
American Series
Body Finish: Polyurethane (finished in USA)

Standard Series
Neck: 1-piece maple milled in the Corona plant
American Series
Neck: 1-piece maple milled in the Corona plant

Standard Series

Truss Rod: Standard headstock adjust (single rod).Relies on string tension for concave adjustment
American Series
Truss Rod: Bi-Flex headstock adjust. Allows for true concave and convex adjustment

Standard Series
Neck Finish: Polyurethane
American Series
Neck Finish: Polyurethane

Standard Series
Frets: 21 standard frets (small)
American Series
Frets: 22 highly detailed Medium Jumbo frets

Standard Series
Machine Heads: Imported cast/sealed
American Series
Machine Heads: Fender/Schaller cast/sealed

Standard Series
Logo: Silver transition logo
American Series
Logo: Vintage spaghetti logo

Standard Series
String Tree: 1-standard butterfly
American Series
String Tree: 1-hardened steel "Easy Glider." Reduces friction thus improving tuning stability.

Standard Series
Neck Attachment: Standard 4-bolt
American Series
Neck Attachment: 4-bolt "Micro-Tilt." Allows instant string "action" adjustments

Standard Series
Pickups: MIM standard single coils with slug pole-pieces and ceramic magnet on bottom of coil. Mid pickup is reverse wound/reverse polarity Pickups:
American Series
Pickups: MIA single coils with alnico magnets. Middle pickup is reverse wound/reverse polarity

Standard Series
Electronics: CTS Pots, Grigsby switch
American Series
Electronics: CTS Pots, Grigsby switch

Standard Series

Wiring: Original (no tone control for bridge pickup)
American Series
Wiring: "No Load" tone control on Bridge & Mid pickup. Standard 250k tone control (neck pickup)

Standard Series
Bridge: Imported standard Synchronized tremolo. 6-mounting screws; stamped saddles
American Series
Bridge: MIA 2-Point Synchronized tremolo –mounting screws; hardened stainless steel saddles.

Standard Series
Strap Buttons: Vintage style
American Series
Strap Buttons: Schaller straplock ready (straplocks & embroidered strap included)

Standard Series
Case: Optional SKB molded case (guitar can be ordered with case)
American Series
Case: SKB standard molded case

Standard Series
Assembly/Tune/Test: Mexico
American Series
Assembly/Tune/Test: U.S.A.
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American uses better quality woods, hardware, and pretty much uses better quality on everything on the guitar..even the way they make them.

Not true.

All the guitar hardware produced for North American operations, whether assembled at the Corona, Ca factory or at the Ensenada, Mexico factory is produced at Corona.

Additionally Fender North America has only one line of hardware components in production. Having a second line would cost too much money compared to any savings that could be made or advantages.

So the hardware is exactly the same. Chances are though that there are 2 quality control grades at the chain output: one grade for US assembly and one for mexican assembly, additionally to any discarding grade.

What goes on in the Ensenada factory:

- manufactures strings, pickups and wooden amplifier cabinets.
- sanding, painting of rough guitar necks and bodies shipped from the Corona factory
- assembly of guitars and amplifiers with the MIM stamp.

All other guitar parts, like hardware, and amplifer parts like circuit boards and metal chassis, are manufactured at the Corona Factory.
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#19
For the record, and only semi-on topic: I installed a non-f-spaced JB in my Ibanez (same bridge spacing as my Strat), and it works fine across all the strings. The only time I run into any volume issues is if i'm downpicking on the high e or alternate picking on the low E with amp gain up full and guitar volume down around one or two.
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I have a Mexican strat for now* because I didn't want to spend too much money on my first electric, I'll probably switch to an American strat or maybe even a telecaster in a year.
#21
^dont toss it out yet, ive had mine over 10 years, my fav or all my guitars.

and TS just want's to know if he should upgrade,*THE PICKUPS then i say yes.

danno.

Chips, some of that info might be outdated. even my last squier was only a 3 piece.
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the only thing i dont like about the MIM SSS is that the bridge pickup sounds way to edgy and sharp because they are ceramic pickups. I presume the American series has alnico so it wont be as edgy. However the bridge pickup is the only one that really sounds bad imo on an MIM.
I have a HSS MIM strat and the bridge pickup is way better than the single coil in my opinion
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^i didnt like my bridge pup either. but that's easy enought to fix
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Quote by jj1565
^i didnt like my bridge pup either. but that's easy enought to fix


Do you mean adjust the pickup height or upgrade it? or something
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ohh sorry, i meant swap the pickups.

that's pretty much what i was talking about in my post up there. when i said upgrade it. i meant swap out the pickups NOT upgrade for a different guitar.

anyway, it's not hard.

if u just want to ajust the pickup, u can try connecting it to a tone pot. that's easy enough.
or raising the bass side of the pickup, see if that balances out a little more.
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He means upgrading it!



it's she. and i edited a more specific answer.
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#28
well if u upgrade the pickups you might as well call the MIM strat, American (on the other hand it depends what pickups you upgrade to)
#29
^well, not quite. they improved the MIM necks, but even still, there's a big different in feel and fretwork.
also the tuners and bridge are a big difference.
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#30
ok... fair enough. Going off the subject, do u reckon it is ok to buy a guitar off ebay
#31
i dont, but if i did i would make sure the seller was private owner, and had a perfect record.
Jenneh

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^ that guy. the necks they put on the MIM strats are inferior to the necks they put on the MIA strats, doesnt matter if they make them in my basement.

it's not the same guitar.
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#35
Yeah the info I listed could be outdated, but I don't care. I'm getting a Classic Player '60s strat, which is $800 and should be better than a standard MIA. Custom Shop pickups, 2-point trem w/ vintage saddles, 12" radius, vintage style tuners, etc.. It's gonna be sweet
#36
^the classic series is nice. and at $800 is twice the price of a standard MIM.

but they give u a good guitar for the money. congrats.
Jenneh

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#37
Generally the Americans are better quality, but then there's the dilemma of spending so much more on one rather then modding the MIM.
Also, you can find MIMs that rival the American ones, I found one, you've just gotta' play a lot.
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#38
the MIAs are made with more expensive materials but the MIMs are better value for money, because mexicans are cheaper to employ or something.

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Also, you can find MIMs that rival the American ones, I found one, you've just gotta' play a lot.


same here, my mexican strat is as good as any american strat i've played if not better, and it only cost me £240 because someone had traded it in for an american strat lol.
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^Oh the irony.
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#40
If you got the money for an American, get it. You'll never want to get rid of your american, but you will of your mexican.
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