#1
I hear about and see guitars that are considerably more than a new one of the same kind because they are "vintage". How old does a guitar have to be to be considered vintage and why do they cost more even in terrible shape?
#2
a vintage strat (over twenty five years) is more expensive because as the wood ages it sound better, and quality was generally far better back then (especially pre-cbs buy out)
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#3
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a vintage strat (over twenty five years) is more expensive because as the wood ages it sound better, and quality was generally far better back then (especially pre-cbs buy out)


ok well my guestion is why does they wood matter if it is an eletric i could see acoustic but it really has no barrer on the sound of the pick ups correct?
#4
The tone is affected by the wood. That's why good guitars have good tone wood.
#5
^the tone of the guitar is actually made by the wood...and the strings (which make the sound btw)
the pickups are only there to pickup the wound the strings make

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#6
There's just something special about certain years of certain guitars. Pre 1964 Fender is considered the best for example and any guitar from that time period is worth alot.

Like stated, wood sweetens over time and there's nothing quite like the feel of a well played guitar. Things that affect it will include where the wood was sourced from, how they were made a long time ago (less mechanisation), the techniques used to make the pups etc etc. Really even on reissue's, there's only so much they can copy.
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#7
What are "vintage" guitars? Scams. People are willing to pay that much because they're stuck in the past.

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#8
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What are "vintage" guitars? Scams. People are willing to pay that much because they're stuck in the past.

It happens.


That's not true. Well, obviously it will be in some cases. But I've had the luxury of playing on an early Les Paul Junior and it was one of the best guitars I've ever touched, sounded out of this world (a far cry from the supposed "entry level guitar" it was released as).
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#9
I meant the "relic" guitars. The reissues. They're a crock, imo.

I don't really have an opinion about the actual vintage instruments. If you like the way it sound, more power to you.
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#10
Yeah, I've never gotten the point of a 'relic' guitar. If you want an old looking guitar, get an old guitar! But a vintage guitar... hoo. I could go for one of thems. And by the way, ever single part of a guitar makes a difference, not just the pickups. That's why there's more than one kind of guitar, more than one kind of strings, more than one kind of nut... blah blah blah.
#11
Yup, vintage is the way to go...


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#12
1) Machines were limited in the 50's, so everything "vintage" is basically hand made
2) As something ages, it changes, and it just so happens that guitars change in a good way
3) There is no such thing as perfect tonewood anymore, due to the excess pollution the wood is exposed to

AND 4) Theres nothing sweeter than holding a chunck of history 3 times your age!
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#13
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I meant the "relic" guitars. The reissues. They're a crock, imo.

I don't really have an opinion about the actual vintage instruments. If you like the way it sound, more power to you.


Oh yeah, I think they're silly too. The Fender Custom Shops are a waste of money really. After the top end of the MiA range you're just paying for looks. I like the look of "well played" instruments but I like that look to be organic.
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#14
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1) Machines were limited in the 50's, so everything "vintage" is basically hand made
2) As something ages, it changes, and it just so happens that guitars change in a good way
3) There is no such thing as perfect tonewood anymore, due to the excess pollution the wood is exposed to

AND 4) Theres nothing sweeter than holding a chunck of history 3 times your age!



I would argue that. People over react to the modern earth, it isn't really too different. Also, you could easily recreate those "perfect" conditions in a greenhouse.

Vintage stuff is nice, but I think it is half mental on shit like this.
#15
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I meant the "relic" guitars. The reissues. They're a crock, imo.

I don't really have an opinion about the actual vintage instruments. If you like the way it sound, more power to you.


yeah i never really understood why someone would pay $3000+ for a guitar that had the crap beaten out of it at a factory. scratches on a guitar are supposed to remind you how awesome that last gig was or that your a clumsy dumbass. either way its better than having someone else scratch it for you
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I would argue that. People over react to the modern earth, it isn't really too different. Also, you could easily recreate those "perfect" conditions in a greenhouse.

Vintage stuff is nice, but I think it is half mental on shit like this.



You're absolutly right about it being a half mental thing. Vintage guitars just have an ora attached to them which is part of the experience.

But the newly industrialized world does have an affect on the wood, not a big effect, but an effect nonetheless. I dont think anyone plants trees in a greenhouse for guitars though, maybe something to try.

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#18
its about...


The wood
before most of them were handcrafted
the old school look
the tone

and the rest is the sentimental value of the guitar...
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