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Im looking for an amp that can play basically anything. I wanna play stuff like Snow Patrol and then also stuff like Pantera. I have checked out the mesa boogie dual recto. Would the dual recto or a JCM series be better for this type of playing.
#2
Mesa is more versatile I believe. They're played by bands ranging from Hardcore to Blues. While Marshall seems to be much more strictly rock based. Either one is going to be amazing though.

Some people say the Mesa Dual's don't have the same sound as other Mesa's do. Try it out, if you like it, go for it.
#3
Whichever you prefer, they're different.
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#5
Yeah, from what I've heard Mark IVs and the like are more versatile than Rectos. But having said that, I haven't gotten near any Mesa, so don't count on what I say.
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It's no fact that one's better than the other. It's subjective and they do what they're meant to do quite well. Try them yourself.
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#7
marshall for 80's tone ala metallica, mesa for modern gain. but i reckon you should try first. i think the mesa would be better for all round metal, because it caters for both vintage and modern distortion.
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#9
from mesa or marshall, i'd say roadking (though the new jvm might be worth a look).

however, there are other amps that are more versatile than either, IMO- engl, diezel, koch, etc., etc.
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#10
Personally i'd say the Mesa....Also if you're looking for something pretty versatile the Hughes and Ketner Triamp is supposed to be pretty awesome
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#11
you should note that both guitarists from snow patrol use marshall amps
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#12
Apples vs Oranges pretty much

Mesa's offer more versatility, and that high-gain punch without the use of pedals, but some of them (especially the Mark series) can be a real bitch to tweak. I sat and played with a Mark III once for a while, and still didn't find the right tone for me. Definently lots of potential though. Mesa's offer a darker tone.

Marshalls are, well, the classic amps so to say. They're alot simpler to use, and it's very easy to dial in a good tone. But they excel at one tone really. It's possible to get good cleans out of them with either the right tubes or power level. Marshalls also rely on cranking the volume to get the best distortion out of them. Marshalls have a brighter tone than Mesas, but with the right speakers, you can get a pretty beefy, heavy sound. I own a JCM 800 combo, and it sounds excellent. But you'll need to crank the volume and use an OD pedal for a light boost if you wanna play stuff like Pantera.

That being said, they're both excellent. But they're different, so try both out if at all possible.
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#13
well id go the mesa, theres a video someone posted here of some 16 year old chick whos endorsed by charvel (jogging any memories?) and she was playing a dual rec i think it said somewhere and she got an awesome randy rhoads tone.

so basically what im saying is with a bit of playing around you should be able to get an older more classic metal tone and we all already know it can do the heavy stuff.
#14
Mesa FTW. My friend has a Triple Rectifier, and the thing is simply amazing. I dont think it can be touched, so the Dual will be almost as good.
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#15
Mesa Mark IV or a Dual Recto. Either that or an Orange Thunderverb.

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Apples vs Oranges pretty much

Mesa's offer more versatility, and that high-gain punch without the use of pedals, but some of them (especially the Mark series) can be a real bitch to tweak. I sat and played with a Mark III once for a while, and still didn't find the right tone for me. Definently lots of potential though. Mesa's offer a darker tone.

Marshalls are, well, the classic amps so to say. They're alot simpler to use, and it's very easy to dial in a good tone. But they excel at one tone really. It's possible to get good cleans out of them with either the right tubes or power level. Marshalls also rely on cranking the volume to get the best distortion out of them. Marshalls have a brighter tone than Mesas, but with the right speakers, you can get a pretty beefy, heavy sound. I own a JCM 800 combo, and it sounds excellent. But you'll need to crank the volume and use an OD pedal for a light boost if you wanna play stuff like Pantera.

That being said, they're both excellent. But they're different, so try both out if at all possible.

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#17
I wouldn't know. Umm...Snow Patrol uses Marshall and Pantera (Dimebag) used Randall. Probably a go with a Mesa/Boogie.
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Mesa FTW. My friend has a Triple Rectifier, and the thing is simply amazing. I dont think it can be touched, so the Dual will be almost as good.


that's dodgy logic working there... extra wattage doesn't necessarily mean better, in fact with tubes it can be worse...
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#19
triple and duals, you cant really justify one being better than the other. i have a dual, and im trying to coax john mayer tones outta it XD
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you should note that both guitarists from snow patrol use marshall amps

i read that snow patrol's guitarists just had switched to mesa triple rectos.
#21
A rectifier is alot less versatile to me than a two channel marshall.

I just don't enjoy them nearly as much.

The Marks are nice, but more expensive. They probably aren't the right amp for you, though.
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i read that snow patrol's guitarists just had switched to mesa triple rectos.


maybe they'll stop playing insipid indie then. ah, we can all hope.
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I've played both a Marshall MG and a Mesa Dual Rec. And by far the MG blew the Mesa Dual Rec. away.
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When you say versatile, the Mesa takes it. I only say this because all Marshalls I've heard have the classic rock- crunch to them. Any band that uses high gain to cleans have a different brand than a Marshall. The Mark series is, once again, another amp I've heard sooo much about. So just check it out, you might be suprised on how it covers genres.
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I've played both a Marshall MG and a Mesa Dual Rec. And by far the MG blew the Mesa Dual Rec. away.
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hahahahahahahahahaha


that's a pretty retarded comparison, you know...
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#27
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that's a pretty retarded comparison, you know...



a joke. i think he was being sarcastic?
#28
Mesas have alot of features and they are all handwired but, they are expensive, the cheapest one I have ever seen is 1200, For just the head. There are some new marshall that now are made with alot of features, but they are wired through a ciruit board and are not as expensive.

The most expensive marshall I have seen is the Hendrix full Stack.

So it's basically what your looking for.
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a joke. i think he was being sarcastic?


you never know around here...
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