#1
(This thread might just benefit to more than just me.)

Okay, so I've been screwing around with stuff lately, and I know how to write basslines, and I know all of the scales, and modes. (I'm not a noob I just get confused about things sometimes)
But the problem is, when I put my basslines into action some notes do not sound right... (I don't like to ever play what guitar plays.)
to get to the point this is a little something I wrote on the guitar:

e|-------------------------------------------------------|
B|-------------------------------------------------------|
G|---7-7-7-7---------------5-5-5-5---7-7-7-7------|
D|---7-7-7-7---7-7-7-7---5-5-5-5---7-7-7-7-----|
A|---5-5-5-5---7-7-7-7---3-3-3-3---5-5-5-5-----|
E|---------------5-5-5-5-------------------------------|

Okay so on the bass I put this together:

G|---------------------------------------------------|
D|---------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------5-5-5-5---------------------------|
E|---3-3-3-3---------------1-1-1-1----3-3-3-3-|

It doesn't sound right, I used a keyboard to test it and then when I play it with a guitarist it just doesn't sound right. Can someone give me examples on what I could do with that simple little line, and give me some tips on bassline creation.

Thanks A lot!
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#2
ur chord progresion there is:

D5, A5, C5, D5

on which case ur bass could follow it goin:

G|---------------------------------------------------|
D|---------------------------------------------------|
A|--5-5-5-5-------------3-3-3-3-----5-5-5-5---|
E|-------------5-5-5-5-----------------------------|

so ur just playin the root notes of the chords
#3
If you want it to sound right, this will work: (It's only root notes)

---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
--5-5-5-5------------3-3-3-3---5-5-5-5
------------5-5-5-5------------------------
signature
#4
You could try just following the roots.


G|-------------------------------------------------------|
D|-------------------------------------------------------|
A|---5-5-5-5--------------3-3-3-3---5-5-5-5---------------|
E|---------------5-5-5-5-----------------------------------|

Or add in some to make it a little more interesting.


G|-------------------------------------------------------|
D|-------------------------------------------------------|
A|---5-5-5-6--------------3-3-3-4---5-5-5-6---------------|
E|---------------5-5-5-6-----------------------------------|

Just experiment with that.
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Last edited by Dinkydaisy at Mar 18, 2007,
#5
Well, all the notes that you are playing on your E string are 6 semitones lower than what the guitar is playing. So the guitar is playing a fifth higher than you. That shouldn't sound too bad, but as you are following the guitar, not the guitar following you, you are actually playing a fourth lower than the guitar. This is why it sound pretty shit. Try playing a fifth higher than the guitar, so:

G|---------------------------------------------------|
D|---7-7-7-----------------5-5-5-5----7-7-7-7-|
A|---------------7-7-7-7---------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|

Or you could just play the same root notes, or an octave higher. Of course if you are trying to achieve some tonality, you could play other notes

I am not too good with my theory, but I think that is right. To anyone who does know what they're talking about, please point out any of my errors
#6
Well thank you guyz soo far, but how do i get a crazy bassline like Ie: flea or rush out of that? i mean I'm completely able to play stuff like that I just can't figure that out. Could I play some notes from that pentatonic scale?
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#7
As the chord progression is:
Quote by Ad90
D5, A5, C5, D5
there is no tonality. To spice up the piece you could play around on the equivilant major or minor scales. However, this could easily change the feel of the piece, or just sound shit. An easy way to have fun is to just play with the roots, fifths and octaves, maybe sticking in fourths and seconds as you do a lil' run down or something.

I am guessing you are playing some rock or metal, so I could write a lil' bassline for you as an example if you wished
#8
Quote by Chimpy101
An easy way to have fun is to just play with the roots, fifths and octaves, maybe sticking in fourths and seconds as you do a lil' run down or something.


Can someone plez give me an easy example of a fifth,fourth,and a second of a note, i think i get it's just confusing me a little
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#9
Ok. Lets say that we're going to use E as our root note

G|----9-----------------------------------------------|
D|-----------------9--------7--------------------------|
A|--7---------7------------7---------7--9----------------|
E|-----------------------------------------------------|

1. The two notes are an octave apart.
2. The two are a fifth apart.
3. The two are a fourth apart.
4. The two are a major second (a tone) apart

There is always the lesson you can have a look at. At least I think there is a lesson on intervals..
#10
Thanks chimpy, one more thing thats it...

------------------------------------
------------------------------------
----7----------------7-------------
----7-------------5----------------


1) is that a fourth? I think it is.
2) is that a fifth? I think it is.
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#11
Sadly no. When you are going down it isn't the same as going up. The first one there is actually a fifth and the second is a forth. I think... I have just checked with a book and now I am slightly confused

Ok... I do believe that I am correct. I'll quote something that should make it clearer:
Okay, so we know that C up to D is a major second. But how far is it from C down to D? Here's a handy formula that will give you a quick answer: x+y=9, with x and y being the ascending and descending intervals. In this example, the ascending interval is a major second, so the descending interval must be a minor seventh. Why? 2+7=9


So basically, the B to E is a 5th, therefore E to B is a 4th. Yeah?
#12
I think your right, and i really appeciate you helping me.
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#13
No worries. I am surprised that I actually know what I am talking about. If you need any more help on intervals, add me on MSN and I can talk you through some more stuff
#14
i have aim can i still instant message u?

i take it that you screename is chimpy101?
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#15
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i have aim can i still instant message u?

i take it that you screename is chimpy101?


No AIM anymore. I gave up on it a few years back. Sorry!
#16
It's good i added you on ug.

Names' Matt your my newest bass playing allie!
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#18
e|-------------------------------------------------------|
B|-------------------------------------------------------|
G|---7-7-7-7---------------5-5-5-5---7-7-7-7------|
D|---7-7-7-7---7-7-7-7---5-5-5-5---7-7-7-7-----|
A|---5-5-5-5---7-7-7-7---3-3-3-3---5-5-5-5-----|
E|---------------5-5-5-5-------------------------------|

This is the chord progression:
D5 A5 C5 D5

Here's a little something you can do.

D5-------------A5------------C5-----------D5
G-----7-------|-------------|-----5------|-----7-----|
D----7--------|-----7------|---5--------|---7-------|
A-5-------5-5|---7--------|-3------5-5|-5-----5-5|
E--------------|-5----5-5--|------------|------------|

Now:
First note = Quarter
second and third notes = Dotted eights
Fourth - Quarter
Fifth note = Eights

Play the fourth note a bit weaker then the first, and the others a bit weaker then the fourth.

(something off the top of my head, but sounds very cool in my opinion)
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