#1
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Dove-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518210

I've been looking to switch from Electric Guitar to Acoustic. On Musicians Friend, I found the Epiphone Dove, which seems like a nice guitar in its price range. It has a 9.5 overall rating, which to me seems really good. Does anyone here have one and would like to comment? I saw in the reviews that some people replaced the sadle, strings, and the nut. Comments are greatly appreciated, thanks!
-Green Fender Standard Stratocaster

-Fender G-Dec Amp

-Digitech RPx400 Modeling Effects Pedal
Last edited by r3t3p at Mar 18, 2007,
#2
anyone?
-Green Fender Standard Stratocaster

-Fender G-Dec Amp

-Digitech RPx400 Modeling Effects Pedal
#4
thats what I thought, but I was hoping someone on here has one.
-Green Fender Standard Stratocaster

-Fender G-Dec Amp

-Digitech RPx400 Modeling Effects Pedal
#5
first of all... those ratings on MF are crap... most of those people have no idea what they are talking about and the ratings aren't relative from one guitar to another. it's good to read people's comments, but don't pay attention to the overall rating numbers of a guitar.

anyway, the epi dove is a pretty sweet guitar... i wouldn't really want to pay the usual price of $350 for it because there are other guitars that will give you the same features for less... but at that sale price of $300 i'd say it's worth it! check out the epiphone hummingbird also since they have it on sale for $300 right now as well. it's pretty similar except it has mahogany back and sides while the dove has maple. see if you can't find both somewhere and compare the sound differences to see which one you might like better. oddly enough, i prefer mahogany over maple... but in these two particular guitars (as well as the more expensive Gibson models), i actually prefer the tone of the dove.
#6
thanks for the input. I did read through the reviews, and apparently a few things seemed to be commonly replaced. The strings of course, as well as the saddle and the nut. I'll be going to Guitar Center on Friday, and I will compare the Hummingbird and the Dove. Maybe I'll even mix in a Takamine, but I'm primarily choosing between these two.
-Green Fender Standard Stratocaster

-Fender G-Dec Amp

-Digitech RPx400 Modeling Effects Pedal
#9
So,
i was looking at an epiphone hummingbird and i just wondered how good it is. i've been playing for almost 10 years now (and i'm 17) so all i have are some old and/or cheap guitars that i love but now that band and solo stuff is getting more serious i wanted a nice acoustic western guitar that has a good sound. i still can't pay more than $500-600 for it, tho. so, any tips/ideas?? it would be nice to have an acoustic i can plug in too. does an epiphone hummingbird come with that? i don't think so....
anyway it would be great if someone had some recommendations for me.

MoMo
#10
To the original poster, yeah I think it would be a good guitar, but defs check the Takamine's, Alvarez's and Yamaha's out as well, Also I'll back jimtaka's comments on ratings on websites like that, although sometimes informative, half of the people seem to not know a lot about what they are talking about and with guitars, as with all stuff after you have had it for a while it either grows on you more, or you like it less because you have found things that playing it at the shop didn't reveal, this is especially true when it comes to first time buyers who have no idea about guitars, think its a great guitar, tell everyone about it and then a few months down the track usually know better and may not give the guitar the same rating.

to MoMo
I would be looking for stuff from Takamine or Alvarez, problem is, the Alvarez stuff is mostly below and above your price range from what i could find.
As for Takamine, well I found these which should be good, obviously the mroe expensive the better.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Takamine-G-Series-EG360SC-Dreadnought-Cutaway-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=512208
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Takamine-EG530SSC-Acoustic-Electric-Cutaway-Guitar?sku=516442
or maybe this baby from Seagull
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Seagull-SSeries-S6-CW-Cedar-GT-Quantum-II-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=512251

Another option, is getting a nice acoustic with no pickup so out of the box you can't plug it into an amp or PA system. for example any one of these Alvarez's which all have solid tops, the two cheaper models have solid backs as well and the two more expensive models have solid backs AND sides which is really good, There all pretty sweet guitars.
PD80S $469
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-Professional-Series-PD80S-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518823
PD90S $529
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-Professional-Series-PD90S-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518822
MD60 $629 includes a hard case
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-MD60-Masterworks-Series-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518831
MD80 $629 includes a hard case
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-MD80-Masterworks-Series-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518840

You could then get a soundhole pickup like this one here:
Dean Markley Pro Mag SC1 $50
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Markley-Pro-Mag-SC1-Acoustic-Pickup?sku=304000
Dean Markley Pro Mag SC1 bundle $50 (you get that above pickup along with two sets of Dean Markley strings, for the same price, dunno why you wouldnt)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Markley-SC1-Acoustic-Pro-Mag-Pickup-Bundle?sku=304001
or the Dean Markley Pro mag Grand Acoustic $60
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Markley-Pro-Mag-Grand-Acoustic-Pickup?sku=304012

Thats the better way of doing things IMO as you get a better guitar because your not spending any of the money on the pickup, your more likely to get a good sound (both amplified and unamplified) for cheap by doing it the second way, but you may not liek that way, so then you would want to stick with the guitars with built in pickups
#11
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#12
Quote by johnos
To the original poster, yeah I think it would be a good guitar, but defs check the Takamine's, Alvarez's and Yamaha's out as well, Also I'll back jimtaka's comments on ratings on websites like that, although sometimes informative, half of the people seem to not know a lot about what they are talking about and with guitars, as with all stuff after you have had it for a while it either grows on you more, or you like it less because you have found things that playing it at the shop didn't reveal, this is especially true when it comes to first time buyers who have no idea about guitars, think its a great guitar, tell everyone about it and then a few months down the track usually know better and may not give the guitar the same rating.

to MoMo
I would be looking for stuff from Takamine or Alvarez, problem is, the Alvarez stuff is mostly below and above your price range from what i could find.
As for Takamine, well I found these which should be good, obviously the mroe expensive the better.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Takamine-G-Series-EG360SC-Dreadnought-Cutaway-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=512208
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Takamine-EG530SSC-Acoustic-Electric-Cutaway-Guitar?sku=516442
or maybe this baby from Seagull
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Seagull-SSeries-S6-CW-Cedar-GT-Quantum-II-AcousticElectric-Guitar?sku=512251

Another option, is getting a nice acoustic with no pickup so out of the box you can't plug it into an amp or PA system. for example any one of these Alvarez's which all have solid tops, the two cheaper models have solid backs as well and the two more expensive models have solid backs AND sides which is really good, There all pretty sweet guitars.
PD80S $469
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-Professional-Series-PD80S-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518823
PD90S $529
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-Professional-Series-PD90S-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518822
MD60 $629 includes a hard case
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-MD60-Masterworks-Series-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518831
MD80 $629 includes a hard case
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Alvarez-MD80-Masterworks-Series-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=518840

You could then get a soundhole pickup like this one here:
Dean Markley Pro Mag SC1 $50
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Markley-Pro-Mag-SC1-Acoustic-Pickup?sku=304000
Dean Markley Pro Mag SC1 bundle $50 (you get that above pickup along with two sets of Dean Markley strings, for the same price, dunno why you wouldnt)
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Markley-SC1-Acoustic-Pro-Mag-Pickup-Bundle?sku=304001
or the Dean Markley Pro mag Grand Acoustic $60
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dean-Markley-Pro-Mag-Grand-Acoustic-Pickup?sku=304012

Thats the better way of doing things IMO as you get a better guitar because your not spending any of the money on the pickup, your more likely to get a good sound (both amplified and unamplified) for cheap by doing it the second way, but you may not liek that way, so then you would want to stick with the guitars with built in pickups


thanx a lot! that will help a lot. those guitars are neat.
i will think about buying a guitar and a pickup too.
I was at a local musical instrument store today. they have mainly new brands that aren't as well-known and overpriced yet. I found a Kona acoustic/elect. that is just beautiful in design and sound. and the guy there made me an offer for 175$+tax. I think that's amazing concidering this guitar was REALLY neat to play and had a great sound. I wanna check out Kona first because I never heard of them before- anyone who owns one or can tell me something about it?
the only problem with that Kona is that it is built really slim so it is basically meant to be played electric. it has a great sound unplugged but i'm afraid it is just not loud/rich enough for a nice campfire gathering and stuff like that.

here it is
http://www.guitarsandmore.com/?sec=product_details&product_id=297

lg, MoMo
Last edited by MomoTheSheep at May 13, 2007,
#13
I don't really trust cheap electro acoustics, the only cheap electro acoustic I would buy is (see if you can guess the brand) an Alvarez AD60SC, I mean that guitar looks fine and could be great, but at that price I highly doubt the pickup would be any good, and on cheaper guitars (especially with pickups) there is often a lot of corner cutting in materials and construction.
If you can play it plugged in and unplugged and its good then buy it, but I would be a bit wary, at that sort of price , no question I would buy one of the guitars listed in the Guitars Under $300 dollar thread at the top of this forum and then stick a soundhole pickup in it.

Maybe someone else will be able to tell you somethign about the Kona, because it does have a solid spruce top which is good, but meh, i'm not convinvced, hopefully someone else will come help
#14
I played it in the store and it sounded fine unplugged and plugged in. But I wanna go again because they had just put new strings on and they were still stretching in so it never sounded perfectly tuned.
the list price for this guitar is around $300 so it is not that cheap. well i think the best thing is to just go in again and play when they have it all tuned and stuff.

thx tho!

MoMo
#15
For under $200 grab it if it sounds ok. Be warned "what may sound ok to you this year might sound like crap when your playing ( & your 'ear' ) improve". I found the better i got as a guitarist the more i noticed how good really great guitars sound.
Richard

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