#1
I know Gibson Les Pauls are solid mahogany and some Epiphones are. So I see everyone recommending the mahogany Les Pauls and such.

However I began thinking... my Epi is alder/mahogany and I know it will sound different than Gibsons, but is that considered a bad thing? I mean it sounds different but not necessarily worse.

Just wanted to see what others opinions are on the alder/mahogany Epiphones and if they see it as a bad thing....
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alder's used in strats and teles, so i don't see why it's so bad.
i guess it's a les paul thing to be made of solid mahogany... but the carved tops are maple... haah.
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Because people buy knockoffs to get that original's sound for less. The alder in it though creates a sound that isn't les paul.

That's what I hear.
#4
solid mahogany will give more sustain and a deeper sound
personally i love the brightness of alder way more than the deep of mahogany
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I know Gibson Les Pauls are solid mahogany and some Epiphones are. So I see everyone recommending the mahogany Les Pauls and such.

However I began thinking... my Epi is alder/mahogany and I know it will sound different than Gibsons, but is that considered a bad thing? I mean it sounds different but not necessarily worse.

Just wanted to see what others opinions are on the alder/mahogany Epiphones and if they see it as a bad thing....


Well...

1. Gibson Les Pauls are mahogany with a maple top, unless it's a black beauty, which is solid mahogany.

2. Your Epiphone does sound worse than a Gibson, I guarantee it (and I love my Epiphone), the electronics aren't as good.

3. If you were to make a Les Paul out of alder it would have a very unique sound, but the problem with these new Epiphones is that they are made out of thin strips of alder and mahogany glued together, which is very different than having a solid alder guitar. IMO alder and mahogany also don't compliment eachother the way mahogany and maple do.
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It's actually alder/mahogany and maple I think.

Good points though, it makes a bit more sense. Also of course being a copy it lacks in quality. However I don't mind the idea of alder in a Les Paul, mahogany is better IMO.
But some high quality alder would give for a unique guitar.
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Epiphones is that they are made out of thin strips of alder and mahogany glued together,


Hmmm, where I come from, thin layers of different woods glued together is called plywood.
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Hmmm, where I come from, thin layers of different woods glued together is called plywood.


Exactly
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it's not plywood tho. ive bored into an epi. mahogany with alder core epi. it's most definately Not plywood.

the tonal significance here makes very little difference. imo, u'll see way more with a pup change.
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it's not plywood tho. ive bored into an epi. mahogany with alder core epi. it's most definately Not plywood.

the tonal significance here makes very little difference. imo, u'll see way more with a pup change.


Have you ever played a solid mahogany one though jenny?

I'm not trashing your opinion, but I know four people with newish epi LP's, and they all sound like total garbage compared to mine, and I have stock pickups.
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Which Epiphone Les Paul do you have?

Cause to be honest I don't think they would use Gibson grade mahogany on your guitar, however I wouldn't know, it's just a thought. I wanted to get the plain top but the one in my store was a complete dud. No noise on the higher frets and everything, so I had a limited choice, but I love the sound of the guitar I have now. I don't see how it could seem that bad.
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yeah, i know. im saying

1. it's not plywood.
2. it's not a gibson.
3. it's usually a pretty good guitar for $300-400.

if it was made of all mahogany, like some other brands in it's price range, you probably wouldnt notice that much tonal difference. u'd notice more with a pup upgrade.

nope, i havent tried the newsest epi's off the line, maybe there;s a problem there i dont know.
and yeah ive tried a ton of mahogany guitars or all different types. i know how my $350 epi studo stacks up to them.



that's me cutting into my epi at the start of a project. i know sometimes guys probably think i make things up, (not saying u) but i take a lot of pics, just in case.
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Cool now I don't feel as bad. ^^

It's a good guitar, helps to see others with the same opinion.
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yeah i kinda like mine here's a nice pic of it.


really classic looking.
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Woah that finish is beautiful, what are you planning to do to the guitar?

And yeah Epi's aren't ply wood, you can look at the site for that.
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I don't have anything against the mahogany/alder epi's guys, I'm just saying, it's not like comparing apples to oranges, it's like comparing an apple to a slightly less nice apple.

My main gripe with the new ones is how light they are, but I think I'm the only person in the universe that likes my guitars heavy

oh, and while we're posting pictures of our Epiphones. . .



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*fap* *fap* ^^

I gotta post pics of mine now.


Edit: Bad lighting, anyways here she is. Sorry about the size...
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Just to stay on topic I mentioned how they had maple tops, which you can see in the pics.
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I think epis would be maple veneer? I thought they were solid mahogany with a carved alder top instead of maple?

Shows how ambiguous guita information can be. They say in the descriptions "Body material: Mahogany/alder" but don't specify what is what..
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I think epis would be maple veneer? I thought they were solid mahogany with a carved alder top instead of maple?

Shows how ambiguous guita information can be. They say in the descriptions "Body material: Mahogany/alder" but don't specify what is what..


This is what I hate about buying a guitar now, everything changes so often, and nothing is clear in the guitar descriptions.
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YEah from what I've read and observed myself, it has an alder body with a mahogany surrounding just for looks. The top I beleive is maple, but we can't be sure if the info is right, but the sites say it's maple.

^^True they listed the body material as mahogany almost everywhere, by the time I bought the guitar. I realized what the body material specs were.
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Have Epi LP's always been made with mahogany/alder? Or was there a point in time in which they were made with strictly mahogany?
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Have Epi LP's always been made with mahogany/alder? Or was there a point in time in which they were made with strictly mahogany?


Pre 2000 (they said Gibson on the truss rod cover) they were solid mahogany like mine.
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#25
i admit, epiphone is the absolute worst at posting the guitar's specs.

their site is a joke. u need a magnifying glass just to figure out model differences.


i just know, from being around. its a mahogany guitar with alder core.
if it says "top" or quilt top, then that's a third wood type listed.
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Hmm.....Mine's a 01 model and it has a Gibson truss rod cover.....what do you make of that?
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Pre 2000 (they said Gibson on the truss rod cover) they were solid mahogany like mine.


The Plain-tops are all mahogany (on close inspection, mine is three pieces but has a really nice back veneer) with a solid plain maple top.

The finish is great, and they play great, and they're great all around.

I wouldn't hesistate to use mine for a local gig, though a change of pickups certainly would not hurt.
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