#1
i want to learn this incredible song by eric johnson, what delay setting should i use for this song? i no in the more distorted parts its just echo but at the begining he gets some sweet sound, i want to get a dvd with an instructional lesson on how to play it, what are some good dvds that do this?
#2
Want to know a better way to learn the song? It will help you a lot more as a guitarist too. Get the sheet music for it, and then download the song and learn it. Dont worry about the delay settings and effects right now, its alot easier to learn a song clean, with no effects.
#3
what if i transcribed it my self? would that be better/worse/thesame as what you suggested?

what key is it in?
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#4
^Yea, transcribe it for yourself, the whole way.
And work out the key yourself, that's part of playing by ear.
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#5
Here's a secret to EJ's tone... You know that tone knob on your guitar that you've probably never touched? Roll it back and use the bridge pickup.
#6
^How far would you recommend to bring it back? Course I'll play around with it but I'm asking what works for you
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#7
I forgot about the delay settings, try setting the rate somewhere around 550ms.

This Kidd Roll it back all the way and then gradually open the pot. Just use your ears to determine what you think sounds best.
#8
^ok mate. But hang on.. I thought the 3 knobs on the strat were 1 overall volume, 2 - neck pickup tone and 3 - middle pickup tone... :S?

I didn't think strats had a tone knob for the bridge pickup?
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#9
I think, the one tone pot worked with the bridge pickup. I don't really remember, I don't have my Strat anymore. Just play around and figure out which knob control what.

Most guitarists don't even bother with their guitars tone pot(s)? I don't know why. If you see Joe Bonamassa live, he's always playing around with the tone pots. You have a lot more control with the tone pot that you'd expect, you just need to know how to use it with your sound.
#10
isnt the song played in E?
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#11
It's in G

Put your middle figger on the G note @ 8th fret of B string
Use that as your hook piont.

it's easier to pick some part of the song using your fingers or pmi.
I alternate between my thumb and middle finger.
Last edited by Ordinary at Mar 21, 2007,
#12
Quote by This_Kidd
^ok mate. But hang on.. I thought the 3 knobs on the strat were 1 overall volume, 2 - neck pickup tone and 3 - middle pickup tone... :S?

I didn't think strats had a tone knob for the bridge pickup?



EJs strat does, thanks for the help guys, im using a lespaul that has been semi hollowed-ified(?) so that it sounds similar to an SG (EJ used one ocasionall) but still has the looks and cool factor and sustain of a les paul but with a little more quack than usual.


what album is cliffs of dover on? is there an EJ album that you would recomend to get some one into him.
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#13
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what album is cliffs of dover on? is there an EJ album that you would recomend to get some one into him.


Cliffs of Dover is on Ah Via Musicom.

Here's what you want to pick up by EJ:

-Tones
-Ah Via Musicom
-Live In Austin, TX DVD and/or CD
-Bloom

Those are my favorites and definitely some of his best work to date.
#14
Quote by Guitarmiester
Here's a secret to EJ's tone... You know that tone knob on your guitar that you've probably never touched? Roll it back and use the bridge pickup.


+1

roll it back to like 3-5. Or, just lay off the treble a bit. EJ's sound is heavily influenced by jazz so more mids and less treb.

BTW, he uses a memory man on that i think
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^ok mate. But hang on.. I thought the 3 knobs on the strat were 1 overall volume, 2 - neck pickup tone and 3 - middle pickup tone... :S?

I didn't think strats had a tone knob for the bridge pickup?



They don't.....Normally!!

Johnson and Braun also included one of Eric's most famous Strat modifications by wiring the tone controls to the neck and bridge pickups, instead of the standard neck/middle tone configuration of most Strats.

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Artist-Series-Eric-Johnson-Stratocaster-Electric-Guitar-103054987-i1146843.gc
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EJs strat does, thanks for the help guys, im using a lespaul that has been semi hollowed-ified(?) so that it sounds similar to an SG (EJ used one ocasionall) but still has the looks and cool factor and sustain of a les paul but with a little more quack than usual.


what album is cliffs of dover on? is there an EJ album that you would recomend to get some one into him.

I frickin' love Venis Isle. I play (on my playlist ) S.R.V., Lonely in the Night, and Manhattan a lot. Luckily, they're back-to-back. Manhattan was the first song I heard by Eric (on G3), followed by S.R.V. Lonely in the Night was on the CD, of course. I love the song, and the solo is orgasmic. Like. Seriously. Hell, a lot of his solos are orgasmic. Listen to that TONE, man
#17
oh dude, i'm just learning that note-for-note myself. i'm about halfway through learning it. here's a sound sample of that song that i recorded when i first started learning it. i'll try to add a complete recording soon. i know it needs some work, but i think the tone is getting pretty good. let me know if you want gear info and settings of this tone.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=756092&content=songinfo&songID=5824813
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EJs strat does, thanks for the help guys, im using a lespaul that has been semi hollowed-ified(?) so that it sounds similar to an SG (EJ used one ocasionall) but still has the looks and cool factor and sustain of a les paul but with a little more quack than usual.


Actually, EJ used his ES335 on the recording of COD.
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I frickin' love Venis Isle. I play (on my playlist ) S.R.V., Lonely in the Night, and Manhattan a lot. Luckily, they're back-to-back. Manhattan was the first song I heard by Eric (on G3), followed by S.R.V. Lonely in the Night was on the CD, of course. I love the song, and the solo is orgasmic. Like. Seriously. Hell, a lot of his solos are orgasmic. Listen to that TONE, man


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