#2
I dont get it, where you come from you leave school in 16?

Where i come from, we finish school at 18.
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#3
That's really, REALLY dumb.
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#4
Like, you have to attended college/sixth form? Or is every school obliged to add facilities for a further two year groups? I can't see that happening.
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#5
I can't see this REALLY happening.

A load of little shits between the ages of 16-18 stuck in school when they just want to be out stacking bricks or shooting up, it's gonna create 100x more problems.
#6
In the Uk you have secondary school from 11-16

and then have hte option to leave

but most people stay on to sixth form where its 17-18 and then onto uni at 19/20
#7
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In the Uk you have secondary school from 11-16

and then have hte option to leave

but most people stay on to sixth form where its 17-18 and then onto uni at 19/20


"Most" people?

You'd be suprised these days, 'specially the bit about Uni.
#9
Damn, I graduated at 18. That is the common graduating age in the U.S.
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I can't see this REALLY happening.

A load of little shits between the ages of 16-18 stuck in school when they just want to be out stacking bricks or shooting up, it's gonna create 100x more problems.


No doubt. I'm a teacher and I can make a huge list of problems associated with that, hell, I can remember problems from the people in my high school classes.
#11
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its to keep all the dirty chavs off the streets to stop them from shooting pensioners :P


Chavs round here dont even bother coming into school, so I can hardly see that happening
#12
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its to keep all the dirty chavs off the streets to stop them from shooting pensioners :P


It's a nice idea but it won't work - if anything it'll make the government look even worse because truancy figures will be much higher because if you don't want to be in school, you just won't bother turning up.
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"Most" people?

You'd be suprised these days, 'specially the bit about Uni.


No the most wasnt to the people going to Uni - more people than ever do go to uni but no far more people leave after college - but around my area more people are staying on for college
#15
In my school you need the grades to come back for 6th form anyway, and there were plenty of kids who didn't get them, so the rest of us are gonna end up suffering because the people who can't be arsed to pull their weight have to come back when they'd be better off working! Or at least in college
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#16
You dont get a choice.

I forgot to mention its regarded a criminal offence (im not joking) and you get fined £50 if you dont go back.

Leaving school before 18 will become a criminal offence
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Teenagers who drop out of school or training at 16 will face criminal action and £50 on-the-spot fines under plans to raise the age for leaving full-time education.
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#18
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I have no idea what you're all talking about!

/lives in U.S.


in the UK compulsory education is until your 16 after that you have a choice to go to work or go back to study A level exams then go to university.
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Like, you have to attended college/sixth form? Or is every school obliged to add facilities for a further two year groups? I can't see that happening.


ITS GOING TO HAPPEN!

The new measures will be phased in from 2013, when the leaving age in England will be raised to 17.

In 2015 it will be raised again to 18. The older leaving age will cover pupils starting secondary school in September 2008.
#20
It's a joke.

If things continue as they do, IT WON'T WORK - AT ALL.

My God I feel sorry for decent kids stuck with a bunch of ****s in those lessons at 17/18.
#21
I live in the US; in my state the drop-out age is 16. (When most kids are in their sophomore year.) I dropped out in May of my junior year, just before my 17th birthday. There are a few states, however, that won't let you leave, with or without parental consent, until you're 18. Which I find to be a bunch of crap.
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#23
How can they say that it WILL happen?


What if there's a government change before then and they scrap the idea? Let's be honest, who wouldn't?
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#24
I think this is one of the idiotic moves in the history of education in Britain. What are these young adults going to do in these extra 2 years? You might expect them to sit A-levels like is the norm now, but that will go completely tits up because I know for a fact that well over 50% of the people in my secondary school couldn't cope with A-levels, aside from doss subjects which are a drain on society as it is. The way the government is shifting, I'd expect us to take on the IB (which I must say is an even worse idea but I'll leave that for another time.)

This only leaves the possibility that there is going to be an even further dumbing down of the syllabi and an even broader (AKA: more useless) curriculum which will put even more strain on universities as their prospective home students won't be prepared for the specialist nature of the English degree. So the degrees would have to be dumbed down also, this means their reputation abroad will suffer, they won't get as good researchers meaning less funding. It also means as a nation we will fall even further behind in scientific research which with the state of the world today is a terrible thing.

I normally hate to take the tory view but; not everybody is made out for university; we shouldn't force it on everybody. Some people would be much more useful to society if they were trained to be plumber/sparky/builder at 16, than go through 2 years of academia which would lead them nowhere.


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#25
I think more people on higher education is good for all - but FORCING them WILL NOT work, it will cause shit for EVERYONE involved.
#26
I think the making them stay on for the extra two years is going to have apprenticeships, (plumbers, capenters, etc).

Still making someone stay on when they clearly don't want to is stupid. Where will it stop if they don't pay a £50 fine? (17 and 18 year olds aren't exactly the most well off), prison sentences? criminal record?

Also it's supposedly being done to lower unemployment numbers....

What are the other party's views on this?
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