Poll: Which type of cab?
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View poll results: Which type of cab?
4x12
13 39%
2x12
20 61%
Voters: 33.
#1
well this has put me in quite a conundrum.

should i work for a 4x12 or 2x12 cab for my blues junior?

i recently found a kickass tone, and decided im staying with this amp. but people have been saying 2x12 for easier to be driven, but 4x12 to be louder.

so which one would work best? im getting an avatar, prolly with vintage 30's, just cos they break up easy.

please vote and state why!

Specs:

Model Name Blues Junior™
Model Number 021-3205-000 (120V, 60Hz) USA,
021-3235-000 (240V, 50Hz) AUS,
021-3275-000 (100V, 50Hz) JPN,
021-3245-000 (230V, 50Hz) UK,
021-3265-000 (230V, 50Hz) EUR
Series Hot Rod Series
Type All Tube
Output 15 watts into 8 ohms
Ohms 8 ohms
Speakers 1-12" Fender® Special Design 8 ohm, 50 watt Speaker, p/n 0994812002
Channels 1 Channel
Features "Fat" Switch,
Reverb,
Footswitch Jack for Remote "Fat" on/off,
Chrome Panel,
Vintage Pointer Knobs
Controls Reverb,
Master,
Middle,
Bass,
Treble,
"Fat" Switch,
Volume
Covering Black Textured Vinyl with Silver Grille Cloth
Weight 31 lbs. (14.06 kg)
Dimensions Height: 16" (40.64 cm),
Width: 18" (45.72 cm),
Depth: 9.18" (23.31 cm)
Power Handling N/A
Tube Complement 3 X 12AX7,
2 X EL84,
Solid State Rectifier
Cover Uses Cover, p/n 0054912000, (Not Included)
Accessories None
Footswitch Uses Optional 1-Button Footswitch, p/n 0994054000, US MSRP $54.99
Introduced 1996
Notice Product Prices, Features And Specifications Are Subject To Change Without Notice

ill probably be playing 100 people gigs at the most, non micing.

thanks!
#2
This is an extremely difficult question for me.
i got a Blues jr, and i know exactly what u mean.
I really dig 2x12 cabs. like really. iono why, but i really dig it.
but obviously 4x12 is louder.
i say 4x12 with a split decision for loudness, and more bottom end i guess.
but its close. i want a 2x12 myself too. but i'm worried if i sohould go 4x12
so then... hmmmmmmmm
are you using this for gigs? or just practice?

my final decision is 4x12 for the loudness. u can get louder and drive it hard to break it up anyways. u also get headroom =D

and do u mind me joining ur Fender Armada? Strat and Blues Jr should be enough right? =]
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#4
Quote by ECistheBest
This is an extremely difficult question for me.
i got a Blues jr, and i know exactly what u mean.
I really dig 2x12 cabs. like really. iono why, but i really dig it.
but obviously 4x12 is louder.
i say 4x12 with a split decision for loudness, and more bottom end i guess.
but its close. i want a 2x12 myself too. but i'm worried if i sohould go 4x12
so then... hmmmmmmmm
are you using this for gigs? or just practice?

my final decision is 4x12 for the loudness. u can get louder and drive it hard to break it up anyways. u also get headroom =D

and do u mind me joining ur Fender Armada? Strat and Blues Jr should be enough right? =]


thats my setup!

you can be number #22.

ill be playing at the most 100 people gigs.
#5
noice!!!
u got the mid boost preamp on ur strat?
what color?
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#6
Quote by ECistheBest
noice!!!
u got the mid boost preamp on ur strat?
what color?


mid boost preamp? huh?

its an agave blue strat. its discontinued. its basically steel blue.

oh i see what your talking about.

i mean i just habe a strat through a blues junior.
#7
ohhh noice
its a really nice amp.
but if i were u, i'll get a 4x12 and plug it in for gigs.
i'll just use the speaker on it for jamming or practice.
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#8
and also, i forgot to add. when i get the cab the speaker will be leaving the blues junior, and i might actually get a special casing for the blues junior to flip it over, so the thing has the knobs pointing out, the tubes up, and the input jack for the cab going out, so its basically converting it to a head.
#9
ohhh lol that's cool too but why take out the speakers?
just leave it in there. it doesn't do anything bad...
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#10
Quote by ECistheBest
ohhh lol that's cool too but why take out the speakers?
just leave it in there. it doesn't do anything bad...


takes up room.

the thing can easily be turned to use for a head, and if i get rid of the speaker, i can move the knobs so i dont have to move them on the top, AND have the speaker jack in a MUCH easier place to reach.
#11
I like the 4x12
More punch and tighter sound.


Sometimes I like the 2x12 too, for the looser and messier sounds.
Up to you though.
#13
Quote by Jack_Flash
could 15 watts power a 4*12?

Yeah dude. The Zvex nano amp can power a 412.
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#15
personally i think a blues junior should handle a 100 man gig by itself if you crank it, and yeh it will definaty be loud enough with a cab but tahts just my opinion
#17
The 4x12 will not be dramatically louder than the 2x12. Each speaker in the 2x12 will be driven harder than than in the larger cabinet, but with only 15W driving them, that's not much of an issue, either. The difference in cost, and the size of the thing (as it relates to your house and ability to move it) should be your primary concerns, IMHO.

I also think you're significantly better off keeping your BJ as is. You could leave your cab at band practice, and just shuffle the combo home for practice there. But knowing the way you bounce around from idea to idea, I'm sure you'll rethink it a few times before you actually do it, anyway.
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#18
well ive been thinking this one over for a while, and its actually one of my main priorities (gasp) since i ordered my new wah.
#19
Quote by the_guy
oh soz i just red that you can't mic it therefore im not sure

why cant he mic it?
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#21
2x12 as i cannot see a 15w blues junior would drive a 4x12
#22
personally i prefer an oversized 2x12 which i use sometimes (avatar's). i prefer the more tighter tone compared to a 4x12 of a more or less similar size.
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#23
4x12. I think every time you double the amount of speakers (of the same sort) you get +2db in sound, so if the stock BJ's 'stats' were the same as the speakers in the 4x12, you'd become 4db louder, and 10db is double volume, so the difference will definitely be noticable.

Although all that said, I would never personally buy a 4x12 cab, or indeed head, the biggest amp I'd really ever buy would be a 2x2 combo.
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#24
well thats the thing about the 4x12.

if i got a one, would it really make a difference? i mean sure, the volume would go up noticbly, but at the loss of tone, and the natural OD from my blues junior is a big part of my sound. would it be worth it?
#25
Well, it'd really depend if you need the volume of the 4x12. If you did, then you'd still be able to get your cranked BJ tone but at loss of some speaker breakup. If you need more speaker breakup, go for the 2x12, but if all you need is the extra volume, 4x12.

Just read that you only do 100 person gigs. 2x12 would probably be better for that IMO.
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