thomasgrant
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So you've probably seen these units before, right?



A 5-guitar stand for $75. Sure is nice. Do you want to spend that? Or make your own?

I came across a nifty little website call Instructables, that had some instructions on making your own similar stand from PVC piping.

He did not list any useful measurements whatsoever. I studied his photos and construction very carefully, comparing them to the photos and dimensions on the retail stands. I came up with my own implementation of his idea. I started off with a 4-guitar version that was planned out very well. Here in my photos, it's not entirely finished and even shows my Kay Les Paul before I hacked it up to make that metal looking thing I have a post about.


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/4%20Guitar/IM000700.jpg


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/4%20Guitar/IM000701.jpg


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/4%20Guitar/IM000702.jpg


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/4%20Guitar/IM000703.jpg


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/4%20Guitar/IM000704.jpg
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thomasgrant
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During the process I bought some more used guitars from the ever-addicting eBay and needed more space. I had some left over PVC piping from the original purchase, but did not want to start over and waste as little material as possible. So I studied my current design, to see what changes and improvements could be made along the way to converting it to a 6-guitar version. Again, these photos do not show the final product just yet.


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/6%20Guitar/IM000701s.jpg


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/6%20Guitar/IM000700s.jpg


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/6%20Guitar/IM000703s.jpg


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/6%20Guitar/IM000702s.jpg


So I made some very minor cosmetic changes, added additional support because of the extra weight for two more guitars, changed the dimensions ever so slightly and decided the white piping needed to be painted black. I found this plastic paint that works very well for this project.


http://www.ipixelspot.com/files/view/15/Guitars/DIY%20Stand/IM000001.jpg

I don't know if anything like this has been posted before. I guess this could get turned into a tutorial if it generates enough interest. I would then end up posting the "plans" to create one of these.
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Quote by forsaknazrael
Very nice. I've seen that instructables before.
Once I fix up my 12 string, and buy a new guitar for modding...I'm going to have to build of these. My wall won't have any more room.


Ha.. Yea. And to think, I made the 4-guitar version when I only have 2 guitars. Now I'm up to 6.
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Hey how much is a single guitar holder for?

I want to make one for a single guitar...
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Why did you make it so the base was so far out from the top bar?
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I payed $115 AUS for a 7 slot one. I don't know that I trust PVC pipe to take care of my guitars. I could however get my dad's friend to make me one out of metal. (Would probably weigh a tonne though)

When I bought it we were sussing it out thinking how simple the design is and how easy we could make one. Even a wooden one would be easy enough to make. And I'd trust wood more than PVC pipe.

Props to you for making it instead of just buying one though. I think you should post the plans etc. to help others save some money. I'm interested in trying to make a wooden one once the last hole in my current one is filled.

With the bought ones I find the holes are too close together and I alwaysknock my guitars putting them in/out of it. So making it myself would eliminate that problem for a start.

Nice work man. Now post the plans, please
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argh i paid £60 for all my hercules stands- do rock but expensive- and i could of done this for a fraction of the price oh well I'm getting a bespeco wall hanger next probably will be better than my attempt at a stand
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Quote by siddyjain
Hey how much is a single guitar holder for?

I want to make one for a single guitar...


I never thought about designing or making one for a single guitar. It almost seems easier to forgo the idea altogether and stick with the tripod type stands available. Those guys aren't that expensive.

When I think about how much PVC you'd have to buy (and have left over), you'd spend the same amount in the end. Unless you made 2 or 3 single guitar stands and sold them off.


Quote by Will_Minus
Why did you make it so the base was so far out from the top bar?


This was something that I contended with early on in the designing and testing process of making the first one. I needed to have just the right amount of angle or the guitar had a tendency to fall forward from it's own weight.

They can all rest in there very comfortable without any chance of falling out, provided they're put in correctly.
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I payed $115 AUS for a 7 slot one. I don't know that I trust PVC pipe to take care of my guitars. I could however get my dad's friend to make me one out of metal. (Would probably weigh a tonne though)


I don't know what there isn't to trust with PVC. The guy who I took this idea from talked about using 3/4" pipe. I opted to use 1/2". I had once thought that maybe putting 1/2" dowels into the longest straight sections could had stability. But I gave up on that as it seemed like too much. Once I added the additional support in the 6-guitar version, there is very little flex once it's loaded up with a full set of guitars.

I trust this rig or I wouldn't have even considered building or continued to use it. But more power to you if you want to follow suit with wood.

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With the bought ones I find the holes are too close together and I always knock my guitars putting them in/out of it. So making it myself would eliminate that problem for a start.


That was something that I considered heavily in the designing stages. In the 4-guitar version there is the same amount of space (guessed) as in the retail versions. There is enough room to fit an acoustic and plenty of space between electrics. As I didn't want to start entirely over from scratch on my 6-guitar version - and that I don't even own an acoustic myself - I kept the dimensions almost dead on the same. So the space between guitars decreased.

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Nice work man. Now post the plans, please


Hehe... Thank you. I will see about posting the details today.
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argh i paid £60 for all my hercules stands- do rock but expensive- and i could of done this for a fraction of the price oh well I'm getting a bespeco wall hanger next probably will be better than my attempt at a stand


These are not hard to make. Just takes a bit of your time if you want to take it slow and do it right. You could easily do one in an evening or over a weekend.
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ahh oh well can you make them so the dis assemble?


Yes, I'm sure you could. I thought about that a few weeks ago, but didn't take the thought process that far.

Some people have used PVC cement to glue theirs together. I did not. Each joint is very tight. Before painting it was all hammered together with a rubber mallet. I realize this will be a little bit of a pain to take with me when I move.

Obviously, designing one to dis-assemble is ideal for someone wanting to gig with it. Or to move it easily without hassle.

The the only idea to hit me during my brainstorming, was to use cotter pins through sections of the stand. But that left with two questions, that I never followed up on.

1. Are their cotter pins large enough and accessible enough to the average purchaser to buy locally?

2. While this will decrease the stability of the stand some, just how well might it work?


I honestly didn't want to put anymore thought into this at that point. Someone will engineer something on here, I can feel it.
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gdgd i may do this for a bit of fun so i dont have to lug around so many stands
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Quote by forsaknazrael
Any ideas on how to put a rubber stopper of sorts on there, where the necks rest, so they can't fall out?


You mean, as in backwards, off the stand?

If you design it to my specs (which I will post later), and set them in there properly. They will only come out if you really bump the stand good.

But as a safe-guard that isn't a bad idea. I've seen that feature on stands before. That wasn't something I had ever considered as I'm the only one around my guitars. Let me see if I can come up with any ideas.
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Quote by forsaknazrael
Nah, forwards, I guess, off the stand. Like, something like a rubber band you could just put in front of the opening where the necks rest.

I have a younger brother and sister so it's something I thought about.


We're getting our words crossed. But I know what you mean now. Let me stew over some ideas in this old brain and see what I can come up with.
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I wouldn't trust it as is. Did you fill the structure with sand, by any chance, to help with stability? There has to be more to this. PVC flexes, and that can cause some very major balance issues. There has to be more to this...
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i did one of these about two years ago, i used some weird insulation tube to go around it.

it will hold
3 electrics
two electrics one accoustic
or two accoustics


ill try to find a pic


edit- here is an old pic (atleast a year and a half old)

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The the only idea to hit me during my brainstorming, was to use cotter pins through sections of the stand. But that left with two questions, that I never followed up on.

1. Are their cotter pins large enough and accessible enough to the average purchaser to buy locally?

2. While this will decrease the stability of the stand some, just how well might it work?


I honestly didn't want to put anymore thought into this at that point. Someone will engineer something on here, I can feel it.


You would be better off using long bolts and wing nuts so that you can tighten the sections together. You would drill the holes so the bolt just fits through and there is virtually no play. Cotter pins would only prevent the pieces from pulling apart but cannot provide any clamping force to the pieces to provide stability.
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I'm bumping this, cause I'd like to know if anyone shares my fears for PVC as the material for this stand. Can anyone argue against it?
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I'm bumping this, cause I'd like to know if anyone shares my fears for PVC as the material for this stand. Can anyone argue against it?


It wouldn't be my choice but I like working with wood. Strength wise it should be fine. (it is the material of choice for practice/backyard soccer goals and they take a bunch more abuse) PVC has a tendency to flex on long runs and we are talking for the most part short pieces joined together. The longest piece looks like the uprights which are probably 3-4' at the max and 1/2" or 3/4" pipe won't really flex at that distance especially given how little weight will be up against it (a couple of guitar necks essentially). If lateral movement is a concern that could easily corrected with a diagonal brace across the back.

I'd be more concerned with the fact that the pieces aren't glued together. A good bump could disrupt the piece causing parts to separate and sending the guitars onto the floor and each other. If it was me I'd pvc cement the base and the top part of the stand and then bolt the uprights to both the base and top with some wing nuts so it could be easily broken down into smaller sections for transport.
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