Tomaz24
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#1
Ok I need some advice about locking nut guitar systems - first of let me be completely honest. Over the six years I’ve spent playing guitar, I’ve never come across one and I know nothing about them. Different people keep telling me different things.

Anyway, since hearing about these locks I’ve been wanting to get a guitar with one installed. The reason for this mainly is because I want try and step up my solo skills and I don’t feel comfortable with doing that with any of my present guitars; string bending sends them both out pretty quickly and when you’re in a band playing mainly chords you really don’t want that. I want some security so I can feel confident to be more expressive.

So first of all. Do they work? Will I really get through a gig perfectly even if I’ve been doing some serious string bending and such.

Second of all. How much of pain is it too tune them? I’ve been told it’s very complex and that… tuning one string could be changed when tuning another.

Third; what kind of bridges have them? Again I’ve been told floating bridges but they’re somewhat unreliable.

Forth; is it possible to install these locking nuts on guitars or do you have to get a guitar pre-installed? If the earlier, how costly would it be?

And last of all, what guitars have them? I want something that can accommodate a pretty even scale of genres. From jazz, ska, funk and rock mainly.

I hope this will clear things up. I’m really confused.
Pacifica112J
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#4
Just google it.

1. Yes, they work great.
2. It's the bridge that makes it a hassle to tune, not the nut.
3. Floyd Rose, Ibanez FR's (Edge, ZR, etc.), Kahlers, etc. All floating bridges have them. The only ones that seem to lack them are some Carvins, and some guitars with a very early Floyd Rose prototype.
4. It's possible to install one on pretty much any guitar.
5. Usually metal guitars have them, but they aren't limited to just metal. All genres can use them.
steven seagull
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#5
Anyway, since hearing about these locks I’ve been wanting to get a guitar with one installed. The reason for this mainly is because I want try and step up my solo skills and I don’t feel comfortable with doing that with any of my present guitars; string bending sends them both out pretty quickly and when you’re in a band playing mainly chords you really don’t want that. I want some security so I can feel confident to be more expressive

The one thing you can't do is get a locking nut without a floyd-type bridge, they have fine tuners which allow you to make minor tuning adjustments once the nut is clamped. Without them you'd have to keep unlocking the nut which defeats the object. Pacifica112J pretty much covered everything...but just a quickie.

Do you stretch your strings properly when you change them?
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madpickin03
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#6
Ok I need some advice about locking nut guitar systems - first of let me be completely honest. Over the six years I’ve spent playing guitar, I’ve never come across one and I know nothing about them. Different people keep telling me different things.

Anyway, since hearing about these locks I’ve been wanting to get a guitar with one installed. The reason for this mainly is because I want try and step up my solo skills and I don’t feel comfortable with doing that with any of my present guitars; string bending sends them both out pretty quickly and when you’re in a band playing mainly chords you really don’t want that. I want some security so I can feel confident to be more expressive.

So first of all. Do they work? Will I really get through a gig perfectly even if I’ve been doing some serious string bending and such.
Yes

Second of all. How much of pain is it too tune them? I’ve been told it’s very complex and that… tuning one string could be changed when tuning another.
Can only be used on bridge that has fine tuners (mostly Floyd Roses)

Third; what kind of bridges have them? Again I’ve been told floating bridges but they’re somewhat unreliable.
Floyd Rose, Kahlers, Fixed bridge with fine tuners

Forth; is it possible to install these locking nuts on guitars or do you have to get a guitar pre-installed? If the earlier, how costly would it be?
Possible? Yes, worth it/guaranteed results? No. You have to have proper clearance behind the 1st fret at the nut area which if you route would throw your intonation like hell. PreInstalled is the best solution coz you pretty much cant fine tune it with a bridge that doesnt have fine tuners

And last of all, what guitars have them? I want something that can accommodate a pretty even scale of genres. From jazz, ska, funk and rock mainly.
FR equipped guitars mostly. Depends on the make and specs, they can handle anything

I hope this will clear things up. I’m really confused.

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duke_lion
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#8
But wouldn't locking tuners be a good addition too?

I got a PRS. It's got PRS phase II locking tuners. You put the string through the hole in the tuner, turn the plastic screw on top of it, and tune it.

Stays in tune forever.
Pacifica112J
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#9
Locking tuners would be pointless on a guitar equipped with a locking nut, if that's what you're asking.
steven seagull
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#10
I still vote for string checking - you'd be amazed at how many people think they have gutars with tuning problems when all they needed to do was stretch the strings.
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Immortal_Hero
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#11
Quote by steven seagull
I still vote for string checking - you'd be amazed at how many people think they have gutars with tuning problems when all they needed to do was stretch the strings.

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#12
+1 millionbizillion.

And I include my younger self in that too
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Immortal_Hero
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#13
Quote by steven seagull
And I include my younger self in that too

Oh me too. I quickly learned the importance the first time I installed new strings.