Jimbo999
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#1
Hello people of UG. Im in the market for a Marshall JVM. Im undecided as to whether to get the Combo or the Half Stack so could you people give me a list of pros and cons of both? I gig quite a bit and next year I have a large one infront of about 2500 people outside. Our band also hopes to get onto the glastonbury unsigned stage (I doubt we will). Thanks for the help.
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#2
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but half stack
with that kind of gigging and stuff
and it will have alot more balls
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#3
Hmm, the halfstack will be overkill for bedroom practice, and you play in your bedroom a lot (not you personally, to my knowledge, but a lot of people do)


And for the big gigs, you'll be mic'ed up.
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#5
or you could get the 2x12 and then if you need a 4x12 cab then stiick on on, that way you have a 6x12 in effect
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#6
Ahh sounds good. The combo would probably be better then (I was always under the impression Id need a huge amp for a big gig). Hey R_H_C_P I never got round to buying an amp if you noticed - I kinda got into golf and never saved up enough for an amp - but now I can! Cheers
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#7
I've had an urge to play golf lately....

I'm not brilliant, but used to do it in school (2 years ago...) and loved it.
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#8
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what kind of music do you play?

Well varies - we're writing our own stuff now but it generally ranges from clean RHCP kinda sound to that saturated fuzz like Muse. Nothing metal though.
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#9
Stacked. Sure, you'll be practicing a lot at home. Who doesn't though. We, the ones with stacks, turn it down, it's not like you're required to play all your settings at 11, man. These combo guys are retarded. It's bigger, harder to lug around. WE ALL GOT OVER IT.
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I've had an urge to play golf lately....

I'm not brilliant, but used to do it in school (2 years ago...) and loved it.

Yeh I got into it and I joined this club. Got my handicap down to 9 now so Im pretty happy with that, so back to good old guitar!
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#11
halfstack, way better. actually IMO a head with a 6x12 is the only way to go, but a halfstack will fine.
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I'm not gonna' join a club or anything, or buy my own clubs.... Just go somewhere with golf for a day out lol.

I accidentally hit a golf ball at my mates shin. Bruised for weeks. Was hilarious.
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#14
Yeah, a loud head with a 6x12 is ideal, but if you must settle for a 4x12 cab and a real nice head, do that. Remember, the head is basically all of your sound, so pick a nice one that fits the sound you're going for. The cab's housing and speakers play a significant part too, but not nearly as much, so ask around about which fits you best.
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I'm not gonna' join a club or anything, or buy my own clubs.... Just go somewhere with golf for a day out lol.

I accidentally hit a golf ball at my mates shin. Bruised for weeks. Was hilarious.

Haha bet he wasnt too happy, thankfully Ive never hit anyone - bit someone sliced a ball into my shoulder once - I almost cryed with the pain lol.

Thanks for all the help people!
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I've been hit in the head by one too.

Dad chipped it out of a bunker, and BAM.
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Jimbo999
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#17
Quote by guitaristd
Are the JVMs good for that kind of stuff?
i thought they were metal amps

Yeh they are one of those do all sounds kinda amps - it looks pretty cool and I like the MIDI stuff it has.
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Quote by R_H_C_P
I've been hit in the head by one too.

Dad chipped it out of a bunker, and BAM.

Least it wasnt a drive huh. They should invent a golf cap with armour methinks
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#20
Give everyone metal umbrellas.
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#21
haha sounds a plan
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#22
I find there's not really a huge difference in a 2x12 and a half stack, except 2 speakers. In my band, I have a 2x12 JSX combo, and my other guitarist has a VK halfstack. When we play gigs, they mic us both, and we come out at the same volume anyways. After all, they only mic on speaker. The only difference is he needs two guys to help him, and I only need myself. A halfstack is more ideal if you have more than one head. You also have to be sure you can lug it around to practices and gigs. If you need 4 speakers later on, you can either trade in, or buy a cab to extend. but don't think that will boost you to 6 speakers. If you plug in an external cab, it takes the signal away from your combo speakers.
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#23
Half stack is bigger... and bigger gets the ladies.

Go with the half stack.
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#24
4x12s are massively overrated - people get them because they have that good look and a symmetry.
ive found you can play massive places with a 2x12, especially an open back or 3/4

4x12s are bitches to lug about and i hurt my back doin so, only 2x12s for me now or 2 or 3 2x12 cabs! haha
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Go with the half stack.


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#27
As the owner of a 13x12 bedroom, I prefer 2x12's, even though they are both just as loud they seem to fit places better. You'll still piss everyone off in the house just the same though.
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#28
I'd go head and 2x12 cab... best mobility and sound compromise.
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#29
agreed. even tho together my cab and mark iv head weigh much more than my jsx combo, its easier to bring down in parts. a 2 by 12 cab is easy to lug down and up stairs compared to a combo
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#30
Your going to be miced and it is not the size of the venue, but the size of the stage that matters the most. With that being said , a 4x12 will be better for that outdoor gig, but I would suggest just renting or borrowing one for that gig. If you find a good 4x12 for a great price and feel like lugging it around and want a workout fine. In small to medium venues your tone will suffer and as the young crowd may think it's kewl, the older musicians will look at you and shake their heads think " one day he'll learn" .
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#31
I face a similar dilemma when I ordered my Boogie, and ultimately chose the 2x12.
Why?

Because I talked to guys who have played in venues all across Hollywood, Vegas, and everything inbetween. And the response? 4x12's are overkill. They were designed for guitarists like Jimi Hendrix and Pete Townshend, who were playing massive arenas without PA's, so they needed something that could really push air. Nowadays, everyone has a PA, because if they don't, that essentially means no vocals (back in the day they'd amp the vox, but whatever).

So, you have to ask yourself two questions. One, do you like dragging around a massive crate, that you don't really need? Two, are you so insecure, you have to buy the bigger product?
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Jimbo999
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#32
Well I have always been swaying towards the 2x12 combo. But a head and a 2x12 cab seems a great idea as it splits the weight (and ends up cheaper somehow). Thanks for all the help people
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#33
Just don't get an orange cab if you're looking for mobility, those suckers are heavy.
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