#1
Hi guys,
since I play in a band, I need to get really heavy tones. But with my current gear, it's not possible to get those fat distortion tones. I mainly play metal with my Gibson SG Standard through a Line 6 Spider II (150 watt version). I thought maybe that I could change the pickups, maybe EMG's, or is that a bit useless because my amp isn't the best? I also thought maybe to buy that new Boss ML-2 (metalcore pedal), but would that make sence? Because again my amp isn't the best. Or should I just buy a good metal amp?
Can you give me then some nice amp models?

Thx
My Gear
Guitars
Fender Squier
Ibanez JS100
Gibson SG Standard
Amps
Fender Basic Amp (15 Watt)
Line6 Spider II 212 (150 Watt)
Effects
Line6 PodXT
Boss ML-2 Pedal
#3
ive used a line 6 spider 2, the loud ones get great metal sound in my opinion. the guitar shouldnt make THAT much of a difference, but switching to dimarzios is the best advise i can give besides trading in for a different guitar. also, change the amp settings a bit too if that helps
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#5
Yeah I know, but the problem with that amp is that I get many feedback if I play loud.
My Gear
Guitars
Fender Squier
Ibanez JS100
Gibson SG Standard
Amps
Fender Basic Amp (15 Watt)
Line6 Spider II 212 (150 Watt)
Effects
Line6 PodXT
Boss ML-2 Pedal
#6
Then use your PODs noiesgate and step away from your amplifier. Your rig should be able to give metal tones with no problems, just use your Ibanez guitar if you can't get metal with your sg.
#8
But if I buy other pickups, will that improve the sound off my amp?
My Gear
Guitars
Fender Squier
Ibanez JS100
Gibson SG Standard
Amps
Fender Basic Amp (15 Watt)
Line6 Spider II 212 (150 Watt)
Effects
Line6 PodXT
Boss ML-2 Pedal
#9
umm if u want a pedal get a metal muff wit top boost pedal for 89 bucks. if u weant a good amp get a crate. pickups get seymour duncans
esp ltd m300
ibanez rg
jackosn dinky strat

digitech rp155l
morley bad horsie wah

carvin mt3200 tube amp


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#10
If your SG can't sound heavy enough with your amp and your other guitars can, there's something wrong there. The pickups in the SG aren't that bad... it should still sound pretty heavy on a high gain setting. The feedback however could be caused by the pickups and might be able to be solved by a pickup change to something that won't do that as easily such as EMGs or some other sort of active pickups, but really, just use a Noise Suppressor and that should fix it...
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#11
Ok thanks;
I think I'm going to buy a pedal.
Maybe the metal muff or the ML2/MT2 with the noise supressor.
Has somebody experience with the ML2 or MT2?
My Gear
Guitars
Fender Squier
Ibanez JS100
Gibson SG Standard
Amps
Fender Basic Amp (15 Watt)
Line6 Spider II 212 (150 Watt)
Effects
Line6 PodXT
Boss ML-2 Pedal
#12
I'm assuming you want to use the SG for metal. In that case, you could try swapping the pickups for something more metal-ish like EMGs or DiMarzios (or another similar UG-friendly brand).

If that's not the path you want to go down, you could also try selling your Line 6 and buying a nice tube amp.

Finally, if you don't want to do either.. use your Ibanez. That should be a great guitar for improving your metal tone.
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Oscar Schmidt Semi-hollow Delta King

Epiphone Hummingbird

Amps: Fender Eighty-Five
#13
Ok thanks,
I think I'm gonna test some guitars with EMG's,
it's sad that those 81's and 85's are only in black
Is it hard to change the battery?
My Gear
Guitars
Fender Squier
Ibanez JS100
Gibson SG Standard
Amps
Fender Basic Amp (15 Watt)
Line6 Spider II 212 (150 Watt)
Effects
Line6 PodXT
Boss ML-2 Pedal
#14
Quote by Fmc
Ok thanks;
I think I'm going to buy a pedal.
Maybe the metal muff or the ML2/MT2 with the noise supressor.
Has somebody experience with the ML2 or MT2?


I wouldn't get the Boss. I really didn't like it, thin sounding gain.

To be honest, you'd be better saving your money and getting a new amp. My band mate has the same one and it feeds back like a bitch sometimes at a gig whilst mine is happily coasting along.
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Ibanez GRG170DX
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Ibanez TS9DX
Sovtek Small Stone - c.1985
EHX Big Muff
Kimbara Wah - c.1974
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#15
Yeah I know, it's really ennoying!
I'm gonna save my money op for a Mesa Boogie Rectifier I think.
But now first buy the metal muff then and then new pickups or the other way round?
My Gear
Guitars
Fender Squier
Ibanez JS100
Gibson SG Standard
Amps
Fender Basic Amp (15 Watt)
Line6 Spider II 212 (150 Watt)
Effects
Line6 PodXT
Boss ML-2 Pedal
#16
well first of you can get a metal sound, after all sabbath invented metal, and iommi used an SG. Ive got a metal muff, i love it get anything from sorta heavy blues to death metal. I would definately recommend it, and i got an SG so pretty similar setup

If u wana talk about it or maybe get some samples then add me on MSN lord_varkunus@hotmail.com
#17
Ok thanks, I'll add you ^^
My Gear
Guitars
Fender Squier
Ibanez JS100
Gibson SG Standard
Amps
Fender Basic Amp (15 Watt)
Line6 Spider II 212 (150 Watt)
Effects
Line6 PodXT
Boss ML-2 Pedal