#1
I've read in various places about using a Boss DS-1 with a Tube Screamer to give you a nice lead tone. I know that Steve Vai uses those for leads and I love his tone. Can anyone describe the tone of these two pedals used together, or even just the tube screamer because I've never use one. I have a DS-1(which I dont use right now) and I'm wondering wether to invest into a tube screamer cuz right now, my distortion tone is very limiting.

Current Distortion Pedal (in use): DOD Death Metal
Amp: Fender FM 212R
Guitar: Ibanez JEM and a RG350EXBK

Any help?
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#2
I'm not pretty sure if it will help but seeing as they use both for gain boost/volume boost, it wouldn't do much on your amp I guess.

Just remember to try it out before you buy alright?
#3
keep in mind, steve vai's amp is 100 times better than yours, not to mention the ridiculous amount of studio equipment and effects at his disposal.
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keep in mind, steve vai's amp is 100 times better than yours, not to mention the ridiculous amount of studio equipment and effects at his disposal.


With an amp upgrade and the DS-1+TS9 combo he could get a close enough sound, noone is going to spend the money on a Carvin Legacy, all those racks (including some not available) a Digitech whamy and a couple of wahs just to get a sound like Vais.
#6
the tubescreamer is a great pedal regardless if it gets you vais sound or not
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#7
He doesn't use them together.
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He doesn't use them together.


He does. In an interview with Guitar Player magazine, he stated that he uses the DS-1 70% of the time and kicks in the Tube Screamer for leads because the DS-1 doesn't track his fast playing very well.
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#9
Any amp recommendations? I'm lookin into Marshall(the $600 MG stack cuz its in my budget)
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#10
Sounds like Vai is subbing the DS-1 for the amps distortion...which seems quite a strange thing to do to me o.O

I just wack the TS9 over my distortion to get a great solo tone.
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He does. In an interview with Guitar Player magazine, he stated that he uses the DS-1 70% of the time and kicks in the Tube Screamer for leads because the DS-1 doesn't track his fast playing very well.


He certainly uses them both. It doesn't mean he uses them at the same time.
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#12
The DS-1 is modded by Keeley, I think.
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The DS-1 is modded by Keeley, I think.


Ah, that makes more sense. I couldn't see Vai using a standard DS-1 instead of his amps distortion. Seemed a very queer thing to do.
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Ah, that makes more sense. I couldn't see Vai using a standard DS-1 instead of his amps distortion. Seemed a very queer thing to do.


No it's not. He stopped using the modded one a while ago, he uses a standard one now. He uses it as an overdrive.
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#15
Why a cheap pedal like the DS-1 though?

EDIT: why a non-modded one?
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No it's not. He stopped using the modded one a while ago, he uses a standard one now. He uses it as an overdrive.


He uses a distortion as an overdrive? That seems really strange to me. I don't think DS-1's sound that good personally. My mate uses one and it's better than his SS distortion, but it doesn't compare to valve distortion...ah well.
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He uses a distortion as an overdrive? That seems really strange to me. I don't think DS-1's sound that good personally. My mate uses one and it's better than his SS distortion, but it doesn't compare to valve distortion...ah well.


Turn the gain down and the level up and it sounds great, and very distinctive.
Listen to Satriani's Mountain Song for a great example of what it sounds like.
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Turn the gain down and the level up and it sounds great, and very distinctive.
Listen to Satriani's Mountain Song for a great example of what it sounds like.


Each to their own mate, but I really don't like it THAT much. I appreciate it as a great pedal for the price, but I think you can get alot nicer sounding tones from either an amp or a nice Maxon or something.
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Turn the gain down and the level up and it sounds great, and very distinctive.
Listen to Satriani's Mountain Song for a great example of what it sounds like.

Why not a modded one?
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Why not a modded one?


Well you'd have to ask him, wouldn't you?
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Any amp recommendations? I'm lookin into Marshall(the $600 MG stack cuz its in my budget)


Stay away from that amp like you would stay away from leprosy


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#22
^ aye. i'm surprised that went unnoticed for so long.

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With an amp upgrade and the DS-1+TS9 combo he could get a close enough sound, noone is going to spend the money on a Carvin Legacy, all those racks (including some not available) a Digitech whamy and a couple of wahs just to get a sound like Vais.


Well, the legacy series is pretty cheap, as far as amps go, $1300 or so, even cheaper if you get it used. The rack stuff.... yeah, I agree. If you're gonna go rack, at least make it your own sound, not by copying other people's rack setups.
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