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#1
For a while now I've been thinking about making it successfully in music business.
My parents are saying it is a waste of time to work for something not possible to accomplish.
All I wanted to ever do was be in a successful band.
Not rich, nor famous. Just enough money to live off. And have some fun doing it.

Again, parents are saying waste of time. Go to University, have a REAL job.

I just want to know from other people's opinions on how hard can it be.

I mean, what do you have to be able to do to have accomplish it?

How do you get producers/record company to get you signed?
I mean, the music business is very risky, and they dont want any money to lose.

How hard can it be?!!

If anyone has some kind of useful knowledge that can help me make it, or get a better chance of making it, please tell me!

Thanks!
Comments appreciated as well as other thoughts.
#3
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its all about luck...

no tips, hints, or tricks can help you.


Hmm..
Ya I noticed that luck is a major part.

*sigh*
#4
Get a manager
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#5
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Get a manager



Alright, thats something useful!

How do you find a good manger?
#6
Hey, you're that guy who wanted to know what pussy smells like!

You're probably going to want to take another job, in addition to being in a band. It's very difficult to make a living on music alone, especially if you're just starting out.
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#7
its very hard to make it in the music business...basically now, you have ot make it on your own. Dont think about major label deals and stuff like that, the only way to make it is by yourself, make your own connections, put out your own records, and tour yourself.

like the above person said, in due time you can get into some luck and start making big money. Otherwise, youre on your own breaking even..and even thats a stretch.

You have to love what you do, and if you have to ask if its hard or easy to make it, then youre already on starting off wrong. Dont even think of it htat way, find a way for you to tour, make records, and play without losing too much money. Get in touch with your own producer and engineer, and really put out proffessional stuff...its all on you and your band. Make some friends in the inudstiry, or have been in bands, they'll lead you to the right people, but before all that:

take years devoted to writing, and playing, then start thinking about the business.
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#8
ac/dc-it's a long way to the top if you wanna rock n roll
It's all on that song.
I think if you practice, get good, pull a good show, try extremely hard, and don't quit you will make it.
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#9
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Hey, you're that guy who wanted to know what pussy smells like!

You're probably going to want to take another job, in addition to being in a band. It's very difficult to make a living on music alone, especially if you're just starting out.


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#10
go to university, and get a real job.

then try to make it.

that way if you fail, you have a back up plan.
#11
It's not a waste of time, but dont throw away other opportunities just because you're set on music.
#12
First off, get some studio time with a producer who has produced bands you like to record a PROFESSIONAL demo. I don't mean recording in your drummer's basement with a 16 track, I mean proper, pro quality. My band are recording with the guy who produced InMe's 'Overgrown Eden' album.

Next, play live AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, and promote your band like MAD. Hand out promotional CDs with your contact details on them, organise acoustic shows in local record stores, and make sure you have a good relationship with your fans. This stuff works even BETTER on the road!

Also, try to get on a tour opening for an emerging act in your country/state that plays a similar style to you- this has launched many a career! Make friends with as many bands who are on the next level to you as poss, and you'll soon climb up.

Also, find out where the hot spots to play are. If you're in the UK, play in London as much as you can after you've built up a solid fanbase. This is great for garnering attention!

Most importantly, don't do this for the money. I've had to spend nights sleeping in a car, playing sets without having eaten for 2 days and I've even had some of my equipment permenantly ruined by idiots in other bands. Don't do this for the money, or for the lifestyle- you WILL lose a LOT of money in the first years. Do this because you love to play music.
#13
go to a radio station with water guns filled with hot sauce and take hostages until a record company signs u,hey it worked in Airheads
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#14
find a small record label and hope tp god u get it, if it is little they usually will if u if have at least a lil talent, then when ur in just try to work ur way up
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#15
Being a musician is a very lucrative job title to have if you know what you are doing. The odds of making a living souly off of your band are slim, you can make money doing that, but you should supplement it with other things, like teaching music, maybe luthiering, guitar tech, you know stuff like that, if you covered the market, you could make a pretty good living. If however you did only pursue a carrier as a performer that would be cool, but allot of work, that may not pay off in the end. I'm not saying don't do it, there are many great performers out there that wouldn't be great if they had listened to the people saying that the odds are against them and they shouldn't even try, so go for it, just know the risks.
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#16
http://www.arancidamoeba.com/mrr/problemwithmusic.html

Its a long rant, i know, but its pretty informative.

You never get as much as you think being a "professional" musician. Unless you come up with something highly innovative, that will change the face of music, sell a platinum record, or you sell out, you will never make enough cash to have a steady living.

I would recommend attempting to do something in recording engineering or a profession such as that. Then you will still be able to be in music and make a decent living.
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location counts alot. youll have an easier time in california doing metal then metal in a small town of PA....... damn my town sucks
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#21
Alot of rockstars etc had prior training and degrees.... So probly try for one just in case, hey maybe get one that could get you into sound or something, that way if you dont make it at least you will still be involved in music....
#22
Quote by Syd Barret..
For a while now I've been thinking about making it successfully in music business.
My parents are saying it is a waste of time to work for something not possible to accomplish.
All I wanted to ever do was be in a successful band.
Not rich, nor famous. Just enough money to live off. And have some fun doing it.

Again, parents are saying waste of time. Go to University, have a REAL job.

I just want to know from other people's opinions on how hard can it be.

I mean, what do you have to be able to do to have accomplish it?

How do you get producers/record company to get you signed?
I mean, the music business is very risky, and they dont want any money to lose.

How hard can it be?!!

If anyone has some kind of useful knowledge that can help me make it, or get a better chance of making it, please tell me!

Thanks!
Comments appreciated as well as other thoughts.


follow your parents advice and stick with school.
Everyone has dreams to make it big but its all about luck these days...even to make enough money to live off of.
#23
it's a big prob nowadays to get into music cause its marketing first then the music.
so bear that part in mind when you're looking for a record deal
#24
myspace is making it easy for artists to build up a fanbase. get a myspace, purevolume, just anything that would get your music out there. get as many gigs as you cani say sooner or later, youll make it.
#25
Quote by beer bear
it's a big prob nowadays to get into music cause its marketing first then the music.
so bear that part in mind when you're looking for a record deal


Indeed. As someone else said, location is a big factor, which sucks for me. I live in a Grindcore dominated area and most everyone hates my style of music.

But anyways, get an account at Myspace, Purevolume, Dmusic, etc... as many different places you can. And make sure everyone has the same goal(s).
#26
So you want to make a career out of music hey?

First of all, you need to ditch any idealistic crap such as 'I'm doing it for the music, not the money', because you are just lying to yourself. I don't go about my job for the love of it, I do it for the money, and if you are going to attack music as a career move you need to get used to the idea of making compromises here and there in order to better market your product.

First priority is to find some like minded bandmates who are willing to practice, practice, practice. You don't have to be the most technically skilled band out there, you just have to be tight. When you first start, write as many songs as you possibly can. Songwriting is a skill that you'll need to develop, once you have it refined you shouldn't have too many hassles ****ting out catchy 3 minute songs.

Marketing of your band is probably the most important thing possible. You need to decide what style you are going for, create suitable and professional band branding (ie logo, tshirts etc etc) and get the word out there. Make sure you have some merch to be selling asap, as tshirts etc are fantastic ways of advertising your band. Think about it, whenever someone buys merchandise off of you, they are paying to advertise your band.

Also, look into creating a cover band on the side. There is good money in it for cover bands if you can find some pubs that will give you regular gigs. Good practice as well, will help you become a tighter player, and learning hundreds of songs off of artists that have made it in the music industry will give you a good understanding of what is required from your original band in order to make it.
#27
You can always do it the way John Mayer did it. Write poppy stuff (or whatever hip at the moment) to get the money flowing. Then after an album or two, ditch it and play what you really wanted to play in the first place. Of course, you bet your ass you will be dropped from the label and your fans will call you sellouts
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You can always do it the way John Mayer did it. Write poppy stuff (or whatever hip at the moment) to get the money flowing. Then after an album or two, ditch it and play what you really wanted to play in the first place. Of course, you bet your ass you will be dropped from the label and your fans will call you sellouts


There's no such thing as selling out. As soon as we got played on the radio we lost fans to 'selling out'.
#29
Hey: it's NOT only about luck, at all. Take this from someone who has a mentor who has been in the business for years.

If you fit all these requirements (and no less), someone WILL find you.

- Young, but not too young. 16-23
- EDGY. You have to at least appear to be mysterious and different from the norm.
- Radio-friendly, yet...
- Completely different from anyone the music scene has seen before (or at least in a while)
- MARKETABLE. This applies strongly to young, attractive females, and im some cases, shaggy-haired, well-dressed, snakily charismatic, 5 o'clock-shadowed 20-something men.
- You MUST, MUST, MUST have "that thing". Star quality. It's the numero uno, most important thing there is, other than being marketable.
- Fit into your own niche and have your own style developed
- People love you because you are charming and good with crowds
- Grateful but confident
- Relentlessly hard working
- A good songwriter

And the least important thing:
- APPEAR talented in one way or another.

The only reason it's so hard for most people to become famous is, they just don't have it in them. DO NOT pursue a professional music career with a band, go solo. You'll have much better chances...And if you do choose to do so, headline the band with your name. Be the frontman, no matter what those a**holes think of it, people like frontmen.

Good luck! Find a way to figure this out for yourself: become all the things you have to be in order to become famous. Follow your dream, bud.


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#30
Me, I'd just want to be big in the local music circles. Just for the respect that I see some of the local Brisbane bands get.
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#32
Luck has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

Every single person who "makes it" worked their asses off to make it happen (except perhaps Paris Hilton). Even Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera were working at it when they were younger on the Mickey Mouse Club etc. getting their feet in the door.

But the problem that you and your parents both share is that you think of success in terms of getting signed to one of the Big 5 and being on the radio etc. You're picturing some big and powerful company "discovering" you and making all of your wild dreams come true just like on American Idol.

It doesn't work that way.

Being a professional musician is no different than running any other kind of business. You are your own boss. You make your own decisions. You need self discipline, a solid plan and tons of hard work every single day. You need to set goals for yourself and then lay out a business plan for achieving them and then go out and achieve them.

When artists get "signed" it's basically two businesses merging. Labels don't merge with artists who have not proven that there is a market for their music. The labels want to see fans and a steady stream of revenue. Essentially they're looking for a healthy business with lots of potential to grow with more exposure.

But the key concept here is that the business (ie: artist) is already well established. Is playing for lots of people and making some decent money.

All you need to do in order to be successful is to have self discipline, a bit of business smarts, a good head on your shoulder and a desire to succeed. But YOU need to make it happen for YOU. Don't wait for some huge corporation with it's own interests to "pick you up" or "discover" you. Get out there and make it happen today.

If your parents want you to go to University then do it. Get a major in music and/or business. Treat your music as a business. Because it is.
#33
Put your band on all the websites such as:

www.purevolume.com
www.garageband.com
www.myspace.com -- all the other similar sites
www.urporn.com ? not sure if it's still there (not porn, stand for "your portal of rock nomads"

Get yourself a website.

And a manager.

And book as many gigs as possible.

Sign up for every band contest, battle of the bands, competitions, anything

Make a couple music videos and tapes of your band playing and submit them to contests and record labels

Get yourself known in your community's music scene

Make an album or so

Get as many people as possible to listen to your music

See if you can get some local radio stations to play some of your stuff

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Hope this helped
#34
get shows with (relatively) big bands.

There are some bands where I live that play with bands that are on some indie labels. You see, having someone in the business works.

TBH, in NJ, it aint that hard to get signed. My friend's band got signed to Drive Thru records. (too bad they broke up)
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And the chicks dude, don't forget them!
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#36
There's no reason you can't go to college and work on your music. Three/Four years isn't really a long time and its always good to have something to fall back on. Having said that though, college has totally screwed up my musicing, I don't have half as much time as I did in school... but I've met some pretty musically talented people (despite the fact that we're all doing science) who I wouldn't have met otherwise.. and whose talent I plan to drain and use for my own advantage
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#37
Quote by xrawrockkillsx
its all about luck...

no tips, hints, or tricks can help you.


No it isn't, it's about being talented, promoting yourself, and being inventive.
#38
"If you're going to try, go all the way. Otherwise don't even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives, jobs. And maybe your mind. It could mean not eating for three or four days. It could mean freezing on a park bench. It could mean jail. It could mean derision. It could mean mockery, isolation. Isolation is the gift. All the others are a test of your endurance. Of how much you really want to do it. And you'll do it, despite rejection in the worst odds. And it will be better than anything else you can imagine. If you're going to try, go all the way. There is no other feeling like that. You will be alone with the gods. And the nights will flame with fire. You will ride life straight to perfect laughter. It's the only good fight there is." - Charles Bukowski

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#39
My friend wrote this. You can ignore all the stuff specifically about New Jersey (it was originally wrote for NJ bands) but most of it goes for all bands

Yeah so a bunch of people keep asking me what they can do to gain a fan base, start playing better shows, sell cd`s online, get merch, blah blah blah. Well its annoying to keep typing it over and over again... Comming from a band manager I know my **** so take the advice or not I could care less if you are just gonng be another band in the so called "scene" in NJ playing shows to 20/30 kids... so here it is...

1) Merch Designs and Merch in General
So alot of bands have ****ty shirts, crappy cd covers, just stuff that dont appeal to the eyes of the people buying all this stuff. So if you are in a band who has merch like this just admit it no one care and pay someone to make a design for you... If you ask me nicely I will do it for free... However since I am such an asshole and dont have alot of time there is a website called DESIGN SPIN (www.designspin.com). Now I know for a fact that alot of NJ bands use this website... It has pre-made shirts and they sell you the design, put your band name/logo on it and everything. The designs are very impressive and professional... They only sell the design once so once you have it no other band will...
T-Shirts Hoodies Printed Up
This website also prints up merch and makes the shirts for you for a reasonable price... HOWEVER! there is a MUCH better website for this called LOUD MERCH (www.loudmerch.com) this guy mike does more for local bands then anyone will know, however it is hard to get a store on his website. But email him he is a really nice guy and you never know.
1" Buttons
There are alot of websites for buttons and/or to get buttons printed. The best one that i found quality wise and price wise is PURE BUTTONS (www.purebuttons.com). I`ve looked around alot for buttons and no one really compares to his prices so check them out...
CD`s
There are also alot of websites for these products Disc Makers, A Very popular place to go but also VERY EXPENSIVE!. I Have found a website that is almost half the price of Disc Makers and their work is very good and reliable. The place is also located in NJ so the trip to pick them up wont be long and you`ll also save 50-60 bucks on shipping. The website is (www.cdxdvd.com).
Posters, Key Chains, Other Promo Items...
There is only one place I would trust with this. FAT RAT (www.fatratprinting.com) The prices are pretty much un-beatable. He does good work and makes a **** load of stuff. He is also very comp. in prices so if you find it cheaper somewhere else he will match or beat the price. He is located in wayne NJ so again you can save on shipping...
Stickers
Either STICKER GUY (www.stickerguy.com) or FAT RAT (www.fatratprinting.com). I strongly suggest not buying the roll of stickers that is cheaper they suck and will look like crap in a few weeks. Toss out the extra few dollars and buy the weather proof stickers. They don`t fade, break, and will still be in contact years from now.

2) PROMOTION, PROMOTION, PROMOTION... (gaining a fan base)
Very Important, and also where half the bands in NJ lack like crazy. Pretty much any band can get a nice record deal with a strong fan base and good promotion... However its not that easy. It takes alot of time and in some cases some money.
Purevolume
You should deff. have some recordings of your music on here. Good quality. No promoters like to go to a bands purevolume band and hear a live recording of a band at bloomfield ave cafe, or in your basement. People say all time time its about the music not the quality. Well thats not true at all, If a label listened to that its just a waste of time. Buying a pure promo spot on purevolume is a very good idea. It cost about $300 for a week but Not only will you expand your listening fan base to all over the US and other places, Alot of labels and promoters look on that site for new bands to book or sign and gets your music out to a bunch of other people possibly in your area that will come out and listen to you at shows.
Myspace
Another good way to promote is myspace. Possibly the best right now. Take advantage of it now before its gone. So set up a myspace account put some music up and make the page look decent/attractive. Now the annoying part. ADD FRIENDS. Alot of bands have about 300 friends on their friends list compared to bands who have 100,000. Its kind of pathetic. No you dont need to be on mtv to have that many fans. Go to browse and keep adding people you can add 500 people a day before your account gets frozen. Now if you have 5 members to a band thats only 100 people you have to add per person per day. Do this everyday for a 3 months thats already 45,000 fans If no one add`s you, but with 45,000 friends expect to gat about 7-8 pages of requests a day. Labels will notice you and espically Promoters will. This will also gain you a fan base like crazy. People tend to like popular bands no matter how much they suck. Just cause it`s the cool thing to do.
Promote at SHOWS!
Even if you are not playing them. Go to local shows make up a quick little flyer with your band logo and website, hand out stickers maybe a demo cd to hand out... anything. Not only will the promoter of the show notice it so will the people at the show and you will gain more fans. Even if you go to a show with 200 kids and hand out 200 flyers and only 50 kids go home and listen to you and only 25-30 kids like you thats still 30 new fans who will come to yur show and will sing along and buy your stuff. Do this at EVERY show you can.. The whole band doesn`t have to go even if 2 members go it`ll be fine.. Make a plan of action.
Message Boards
Go find some scene message boards in the area and post your ****.
Promo Pictures...
I strongly suggest sending an email to For Your Lens Only. (www.foryourlensonly.com) He is young and one of the cheapest and best photographers I know in NJ. I`ve seen bands pay hundreds of dollars for ****ty promo pictures so ask him to help you out while he`s still cheap

PROMOTION IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. I can`t stress that enough a ****ty band with alot of promotion will make it alot farther that a AMAZING band with no promotion.
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3) Playing at shows, Attitude, Attitude twords promoters, Stage Presence. Gaurentee...
Attitude At Shows
Don`t act like a rock star! First of all if you are playing a local show you are NOT a rockstar so no need to act like one and try to **** everygirl scene you can get your hands on. Nothing pisses people off more then this. When you are on MTV or Playing shows to crowds of 10,000 everynight, then you can **** whoever you want and act how you want. Doing this as a local band will do nothing more then make people not want to talk to you, and/or want to fight you. So if you are serious about the band dont do this. Don`t act like your band is the most amazing thing since white bread cause ill tell you right now if you are reading this you are not. Be nice to people introduce yourself to other bands make contacts and talk to the fans. Tell them to check out your band and what you are all about... Don`t sit in a corner and act like a rockstar by not talking to anyone and walk up on stage acting like your elvis, or johnny cash...
Attitude twords promoters...
Act like a dick head. Thats a great way on how NEVER to get a show in that area again! A good promoter can make or break a band. Coming from expierence. I`ve been doing shows for 7 years now and a band who pisses me off will never get a show again. I have grown fan base`s for bands and then they never talk to me or act like rockstars once they get a little publicity, and end up breaking up withing months cause they dont realize that shows are alot right after promotion. Do not I.M. promoters 1000`s of times asking them for shows or if they can get on a show blah blah blah send them a personal email maybe saying you attend their shows at the (what ever hall they do shows) and love the atmosphere and would love to play a show include a mp3 or a link. There is no need to send out presskits thats jsut a way for a promoter to get a free cd out of the deal and never talk to you again. There is no need to send a "follow up I.M." or email if you sent a promoter a MP3 he got it. And again don`t let them see you acting like a rockstar at the shows. Promoters love nothing more then to talk **** about bands and if you act like this I cant tell you they will barely book you or even never book you at all unless they need a band to open a show. And don`t ask for money at a show which brings me to the next point...
Gaurentee...
Unless you are a band drawing well over 60 kids to a show do not ask for a gaurentee ask for gas money if possible. Bands do not understand how much time and effort goes into doing show. A promoter who is trying to do this for a sorce of income and help bands get good shows gets pissed walking away from a show with less then a hundred dollars to their name. Bands think that promoters do not have expenses. If a promoter can throw you some money TRUST ME he will. Nothing I hate more then a band drawing very few kids asking for money. Don`t do the work as a band promoting then dont expect money. Posting a show on your myspace isn`t promoting. Handing out flyers and posting it all over the net is. Now if your expecting the promoter to do all the promotion him self then you don`t even deserve gas money. This sound like a dick attitude but its not. Sometimes for me with a sold out show after paying the hall and the main band who drew all the kids I might walk away with 200 dollars.A band arguing to me about "how its about the bands not the promoter" will piss me off and will have me NEVER book that band AGAIN!!! EVER. Promoters dont forget fueds between bands and they also tell other promoters. Dont forget we also have to pay for damages to the hall, buy up to date cables and wire for the PA system, and/or pay a sound guy and save up for other shows. Bands coming from 5-15 mins away shouldn`t even bitch. Touring bands are number 1 in my book If you think you are all high and mighty then book your own shows and play them...
Playing Shows and Stage Presence...
Something I have been trying to do for years and also other promoters have. Shows how they used to be like 5 years ago, times when the whole crowd will sing along, there will be moshing the whole show, crowd surfing in the smallest halls, kids jumping around and having fun. Now when I walk into a show sometimes and a band is playign it looks like a funeral. Well lets try and put the FUN back in funeral. Interact with the crowd. This I can`t stress enough. If you see some kid singing along in the front row "Pass him the mic" and let him sing a few words trust me it will be an expierence he will never forget and he`ll try and do it again at the next show and so on, more people will do this, and you`ll be having sing alongs and crowd part. in no time. TALK CLEARLY over the mic dont mumble yell out your band name NOT EVERYONE AT THE SHOW KNOWS WHO YOUR BAND IS. You`re not taking back sunday so intruduce your band numerous times through out the show. No one cares if you have had a line up change or are going to record next week you can post that on the net not waste everyones time at shows. TIME IN BETWEEN SONGS. more then 15-20 seconds between songs is just stupid and annoying no one need to hear you tuning and explainging your life story and/or telling jokes and being annoying so stop. MAKE A SONG PERSONAL to someone in the crowd make eye contact dont act "emo" and stare at the floor or your drummer the whole time you can do that at home. A first impression for a band is alot. Jump off a ****ing speaker into a crowd or something you must do something to stand out or you wont make it. Sure your music is good but not having fun at show will drastically change your fan base. Emo is dying so stop acting like you are so down all the time...

4) Marketing, selling your Merch / CD`s online...
Selling Cd`s online
Some times well mostly all the time just selling your cd`s at shows is never enough. There are so many online stores you can put your cd on for very cheap. (Note: do not do this if you don`t have your cd`s pressed. No one wants to pay $10 for a bands CD online that the bands didnt take time and money to have them pressed.) You should generally price your CD`s from anywhere from $5 - $8 depending on how many songs you have. Here are some online stores that will sell your CD`s / Merch
Smart Punk - www.smartpunk.com
Loudmerch - www.loudmerch.com
MerchDirect - www.merchdirect.com
Absolute Punk - www.absolutepunk.net (CD Reviews)
Getting Your CD`s Into Stores
Getting your cd`s into stores isn`t as hard as you would expect it to be. It is actually VERY easy it just takes some time.
Coconuts- Just simply go to www.coconuts.com and look on the top bar and click on the link that says "localeyez" and follow the directions.
Best Buy / CD Baby - Putting your CD on "CD baby" 9 times out of ten if it is a good selling CD will get it into Best buy.
Hot Topic - Give them a call and ask 626-839-4686 Thats the hot topic HQ.
The bottom like is you can pretty much call up any store and they will tell you how to get the cd in there.

5) Touring, Making Contacts, Booking Shows, Recording...
Touring and making contacts
Touring and making tour contacts are really hard to do for a band. Alot of bands usually pay people or swap shows with other bands however its something that takes a VERY long time.
Veteran UGer. Suck it.
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