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#1
Looking for a Les Paul style guitar. I'm probably going to be playing grunge/metal/hard rock/classic rock.

Not sure on a price range, probably $1,000.

An extra plus would be a finishes like Tobacco Burst, Black w/ Gold Hardware.
#4
Quote by Sir Talkalot
or a REALLY good epi


Epiphone Elitist is always better than a Gibson.

It's been that way for around 6 years since Gibsons QC went head over heels.
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#16
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#17
+1 to the Epiphone elitist recommendations.

Haven't played one but I hear they're comparable to the lower end Gibsons, plus you don't pay so much.

SO yeah I say get an elitist.
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#22
El Codyo's right, check into an Edwards.

Or a Burny:



Both companies make LP copies as good as if not better than Gibsons for around 1/4th the price. You can usually find both on Ebay for well under $1000.

Burny's can also be bought here (note the prices listed on that site are in Singapore dollars, not US dollars):

http://orangeguitar.com/forsale/burnyforsale.htm

And Edwards can be bought here:

http://www.guitarjapan.com/edwards/


Buy either brand and you'll be so pleased you'll want to name your first-born after me or El Codyo.
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Edwards, you'll thank me later.

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/edwards/index.html
There's 3 drop-down menu's on the left side, the names with LP in them are the les pauls.


i agree 100%

edwards are great guitars
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#26
Japanese Tokai. They're on ebay. Fantastic guitars.
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#27
I think im going to go with Burny of Edwards. I love the look of the LP Custom
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I think im going to go with Burny of Edwards. I love the look of the LP Custom


I don't think you can go wrong either way. Both have bodies and necks that are just like a Gibson (one of the well-made ones) and have the same weight and feel. Those ESP models are excellent guitars but they're very different from Les Pauls in those regards. As close as they are cosmetically they're alot lighter and have a totally different feel to them (although I'm sure alot of people prefer that anyway). There's a solidity to an actual Les Paul that I absolutely love (even if my back doesn't) and both companies nail that completely. After playing my Burny LP's, nearly every other guitar just feels like a toy to me, and the neck is God-like, the closest I've ever felt to an actual '59 LP neck.

As far as electronics, Burny's usually have a stock Burny bridge humbucker which sounds excellent, very similar to a Seymour Duncan JB with a less-pronounced midrange, and a Fernandes Sustainer in the neck. Most Edwards come with either Seymour Duncans or EMG's. I personally prefer both company's pickup choices to most stock Gibson pickups, especially if you play heavier music.

On a side note, Burny also offer a couple of models with a Floyd Rose. Alot of people find that heretical on a LP but I love having that feature on my Burny's.
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+1 to the Epiphone elitist recommendations.

Haven't played one but I hear they're comparable to the lower end Gibsons, plus you don't pay so much.

SO yeah I say get an elitist.


Compareable to lower end Gibsons?

I've played many High End Gibson models that are on level or worse than the Epiphone Elitist Models.
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they all kinda went extinct after hendrix really.


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#31
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How trusted can that site be?

Im really considering this LP!



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#33
I noticed some Burnys on ebay going for pretty cheap, and i was wondering if there was a year or something that i should stay away from or something?

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#34
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Where can I buy this? :O

they sell those in korea and japan. i've seen many of them. mainly in japan tho. they're with ESP if i'm not mistaken. IMO i think navigators r the best les pauls.
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#35
Id say for your budget,a used epiphone elitest (custom or standard) with a pickup swap. I suggest Bareknuckle pickups. Their black dogs are great for a vintage-y sound, or if some higher gain metally stuff, try the miracle mans. Drop those pups in an elitest, it can beat nearly all non custom gibsons.
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I noticed some Burnys on ebay going for pretty cheap, and i was wondering if there was a year or something that i should stay away from or something?


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Not that I know of. Mine are recent models, '06 and '02, and both are incredible. From everything I've heard their 80's and 90's models are great too. The only ones I'd avoid are the ones with bolt-on necks. Thankfully they're rare, I've only seen one on Ebay in my life. I came across this one today at a good buy-it-now price:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BURNY-LP-JP-Model-Trans-Black-Rare-Guitar-Japan_W0QQitemZ220121256010QQihZ012QQcategoryZ38086QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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#37
Theres also Greco and Orville.
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#38
orville is probably the best, lining up with the 90s burny with real kickarse pups. The current production of burny RLG/RLC 50 series are made in china, but neverless it is still a very acceptable guitar for its pricing. Edwards arent that bad just that topping up a little can get you a used orville.
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#39
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Epiphone Elitist is always better than a Gibson.

It's been that way for around 6 years since Gibsons QC went head over heels.



then u cant say its always been better can you? i own a 97 gibson les paul standard an no way is the elitist epi better..........
#40
I totally forgot about Orvilles, which are also great. They were actually owned by Gibson, but made in Japan.
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