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Welcome to UniverseZero's Metal Tele Build!

Hey all everybody!

Story:
I've been here roughly for a year, I joined the forum in search for info to build a guitar, I've found all the information I might need, bought and read 2 books on the subject, read lots of threads with good and bad things to do, build is coming soon!

Several unfortunate events have held me back in time, I was supposed to start last December, and I am starting now, but if everything comes out right, I will order the materials around July's 2nd week but received them on July's 4th week only to see my mistakes and have to reorder everything. Now everything is here.

My brother is helping me find the wood I will need, but that might take more than a week, so I guess that I will have the wood around August 15th, still I won't be able to build at least until the 22nd.

Vision:

A yellow Telecaster, with black graphics, white/black/chrome hardware, 2 humbuckers, LP style electronics, recessed TOM bridge, graph-tech nut, 3x3 PRS style headstock and a white pick guard.

Not too difficult to achieve in my opinion.

Body wood is most likely going to be Monkey pod, neck is going to be 3 piece (2 colors of course) with a Bolivian rosewood fretboard. I would like to re-inlay the fretboard with acrylic mirror trapezoids, but I don't want to re-fret it all, so I will keep the abalone dots.

Sound:
The sound I want to achieve with this guitar is a heavier sound, I already have a fender Stratocaster with GFS Premium Alnico pickups, which give out a pretty amazing blues/rock tone. I was thinking about using a 2 Dimarzio combo, one Humbucker from hell for the neck and one Super Distortion/Tone Zone for the bridge, not sure about it yet, this is one of the aspects I need more help with. Knobs will be, one master volume, one tone and two spin-a-splits.

Material List

Bridge: GFS $16.95

Tuners:GFS $26.95

Knobs: GFS $10.95

Strap Buttons: GFS $3.95

Rings: GFS $4.95

Pick guard: FREE, done at my dad's workshop out of PVC

Back plate: FREE, done at my dad's workshop out of PVC

Jack plate:GFS $5.95

Neck Plate: GFS $8.95

Screws: GFS $5.95

Switch Surround: GFS $2.95

Ferrules: GFS $6.95

Electronics: GFS $22.95

Wire: GFS $7.95

18" Double Action Truss Rod: StewMac $16.17

Nut:StewMac $6.53

Pickups:
GC Humbucker from Hell $69.99

GC Tone Zone $69.99

Wood:
2 Body pieces: 18"x15"x 7/8"
3 Neck Laminates:
Sides: 25" x 1" x 1 1/4"
Middle: 25" x 1" x 1"

To do:
I still must upload a working plan, there is no point in it since I won't follow it but I should make at least a step by step guide. This will be a picture heavy thread by the way.

Expenses up to now: $450


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Last edited by UniverseZero at Aug 6, 2007,
#2
7/16/07 Received my parts from Guitar Fetish!











7/17/07 Received pickups from Guitar Center!



7/25/07 Just got my 18" truss rod



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Last edited by UniverseZero at Jul 25, 2007,
#3
I think it would look better if you put a black pickguard on or no pickguard at all.
Looks pretty cool, I'm liking the headstock. Reminds me of Schecter.
And if you would rather have the TOM bridge, you could route it like carvin does and not have to mess with the neck angle at all.
http://www.carvin.com/features/guitars/
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Last edited by rockr09 at Jun 24, 2007,
#5
I actually dislike black pick guards.... I think it doesn't fit anyway, I can't have too much black, the pick guard balances everything out.

That Carvin bridge seems to be interesting, even though it seems to be some sort of special model, and that means that you should buy it from Carvin right? Anyways, its not something necessary for me to have a TOM bridge.


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#6
What about the Carvin style TOM route?

Ooops, didnt see the rest of your post, I have a bad habit of doing that. Well good luck with the guitar.

I don't know why, but tele headstocks and bridges just don't look right to me.

What about a hard tail strat bridge?
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Last edited by rockr09 at Jun 24, 2007,
#7
I think if you're going to have the pickguard be white, you should have the pickup selector backing white as well, rather than black.

Nice design though, looks like it should be fun!
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#8
What about some design on the Pickguard as well? Also, does the body, neck, and headstock have black binding on it?
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#9
I've thought about the binding but don't know how I could route the body for binding and I'm too much of a wuss to bind the neck/headstock since it would involve re-fretting.

I've thought about a design on the pick guard but haven't come out with anything good up to now.

Tele headstock's suck, the bridge doesn't look as bad because of the humbucker.

What do you think about the hardware?


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#11
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That Carvin bridge seems to be interesting, even though it seems to be some sort of special model, and that means that you should buy it from Carvin right? Anyways, its not something necessary for me to have a TOM bridge.

No, it's just a standard TOM-style bridge that's recessed. So i'll vote for TOM with string-through ferrules. That'd look mighty awesome.

...and I agree with your decision about the white pickguard. Don't change the switchplate to white either. And you shouldn't necessarily come up with an idea for a design to put on the pickguard either... The way I think of it is sorta connected to the way I feel about hot-rodded classic cars- imagine a '57 Chevy with a yellow paintjob and a black design painted along both sides. Then add white walled tyres. Bam! That hits the spot. Black walled tyres would be boring, and more white (such as white door handles or whatnot) would be too much... Same basic thing here- the pickguard is your guitar's white walled tyres.
#12
^Well I guess you just blew my black pickguard theory out of the water. Meanie.d
Jk

But I'm all for the recessed TOM, seeing as I hate Tele bridges already, and I absolutly love a TOM string-thru.
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#13
Minus the colours, it looks a lot like the Tele I might be having built for me.

I love how the headstock and body shape go so well together.
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#15
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I was planning this same thing.. Then I bought a Schecter PT Blackjack instead.


Apart from the paintjob, that's pretty much what I want in a guitar. Cost is a bit of an issue for me (until I'm rich anyway ).
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No, it's just a standard TOM-style bridge that's recessed. So i'll vote for TOM with string-through ferrules. That'd look mighty awesome.

...and I agree with your decision about the white pickguard. Don't change the switchplate to white either. And you shouldn't necessarily come up with an idea for a design to put on the pickguard either... The way I think of it is sorta connected to the way I feel about hot-rodded classic cars- imagine a '57 Chevy with a yellow paintjob and a black design painted along both sides. Then add white walled tyres. Bam! That hits the spot. Black walled tyres would be boring, and more white (such as white door handles or whatnot) would be too much... Same basic thing here- the pickguard is your guitar's white walled tyres.


That is exactly the idea of the white pickguard, accentuating the black colors.

Recessed TOM bridge sounds very impressive actually, but I don´t know how I would go about recessing it, just by making the post holes deeper?


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#18
i'm not a fan of that shade of yellow. maybe make it brighter? less earwax color?
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Recessed TOM bridge sounds very impressive actually, but I don´t know how I would go about recessing it, just by making the post holes deeper?

Yeah, pretty much... And then route out a ditch between them that the bridge sinks into. You just need to measure the height of a standard Tele bridge and then the height of a TOM (meaning the height from the face of the guitar's body to where the top of the saddles would be. The height difference is the depth of your ditch. Then comes the calculating of the placement of the neck-through ferrules, which shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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I like it. Only one suggestion- you should probably move the knobs closer together and scoot them up toward the bridge pup. It's not necessary, but it'd clean up the face of the guitar some.
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I don't like the yellow for one reason. If you are going to make a guitar of beautiful monkeypod then why would you paint over it???? Just use mahogany if you are going to paint it. The tone of the two are very similar.

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If you are going to make a guitar of beautiful monkeypod then why would you paint over it???? Just use mahogany if you are going to paint it. The tone of the two are very similar.

Yeah, that's a good point... I second that.
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Minus the colours, it looks a lot like the Tele I might be having built for me.

I love how the headstock and body shape go so well together.



out of interest, how much would that guitar cost you to have custom made in the US?
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out of interest, how much would that guitar cost you to have custom made in the US?



Probably quite a bit. I was talking to another Australian UGer about having him build me one - it's still in the workbooks and depends on how much money I end up earning this year. It's going to cost me less than a Schecter PT Blackjack though
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I don't like the yellow for one reason. If you are going to make a guitar of beautiful monkeypod then why would you paint over it???? Just use mahogany if you are going to paint it. The tone of the two are very similar.

I live in Costa Rica, for me Mahogany is very rare and expensive, using Monkey Pod is easier than Mahogany. I've thought about staining/dying it, but it depends on how dark colored my wood happens to be when I buy it.

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I like it. Only one suggestion- you should probably move the knobs closer together and scoot them up toward the bridge pup. It's not necessary, but it'd clean up the face of the guitar some.

Its like that on purpose, I hate the volume knob being so close to the bridge on my strat.

Any opinions on the pickup combo? I need help with that!


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I like the idea of staining it darker better than I do the yellow-ish. It would look much classier.
#28
Well, if there is something staying is the color scheme.... I love it...

Any info on the pickups?


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#31
I want to know what you think about those two pickups together, I haven't ordered anything yet.

I also thought about a PAF Joe Satriani Neck pickup, just as the humbucker from hell its known for its clean sound, difference is that this one supposedly is much more beastly when going through distortion!

WOWdoritos: its not as easy as high output, I need passive pickups, I don't want to be messing with batteries. High output passive pickups are known for being muddy.... I need opinion on someone who has used this pickups before!


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Last edited by UniverseZero at Jun 26, 2007,
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i used a seymour duncan invader in the bridge and a seymour duncan alnico II pro in the neck and it is a wicked combo i suggest the JB (bridge) and Alnico II pro (neck) too if you want a little less output in the bridge.

or if you are a dimarzio fan i think a super distortion or super 3 for the bridge would b a good choice, as for the neck im not too sure i dont know their neck pickups too well
#33
^if you actually want to hear your notes i strongly suggest not getting an Invader.
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Tomorrow I will order everything....

decided on going Tone Zone/PAF Joe for the pup combo.


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#37
thats a kickass tele. i like the way it looks. completely dig it. i also think the white pickguard is killer.
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Monkey Pod - Wavy, interlocked grain with a coarse texture. Light, soft, and easily worked, but the interlocked grain may cause tear-out or wooly surfaces. Takes an excellent finish but requires filling for a smooth surface.


hmmm... interesting, actual comments on the guitar?


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hmmm... interesting, actual comments on the guitar?

I'm glad you finally decided to go for it! Frankly, it's about time.

What brand of grain filler are you going to use? With that wood's property, I expect to do a lot of grain filling and sanding, grain raising and more fine sanding, so that you'll have a flawlessly smooth surface to do your finishing.

Personally, I'd do a semi-transparent stain on it, probably Lemongrass to "lighten" the color a bit:






It gives the same effect you're going for except it's transparent. Think of the Gibson SG in Heritage Cherry, kinda dark, but it still shows off the Mahogany. Then I'd seal it using ReRanch's Rule of 3s.

As far as the tribal-looking design on the guitar's butt, I'm not too crazy about it; however, I can see how it can look good.

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update, I already ordered all the parts! they should be arriving around next week (keep in mind that shipping to costa rica takes double the time!)


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