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madpickin03
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Setting Up Floyd Rose
Floyd Rose Breakdown

Other terms -
  • String clamp - pressure pads
  • Saddle mounting screw - intonation screw/saddle screw
  • Pivot screws - tremolo stud/tremolo post/stud screw


Restringing -
  • Depending on your system, you could either block your tremolo using appropriate materials (eraser, wooden block, batteries) BEHIND the bridge area/inside the cavity, OR you could just simply string them one by one and immediately proceed to the tuning process without having to block anything.
  • Undo the string lockers.
  • Insert a new string.
  • Tighten the string lockers firmly until the string is snug (dont overtighten).
  • Increase the string tension by turning the machineheads. Depending on your bridge angle, if its buldging out, then slacken the string(s).
  • Repeat #5 for all strings, gently remove your blocker if you block them.

<NOTES>
  • For ease of use and to save time, make sure you have the same gauge and the same brand of strings you previously had.
  • Blocking the tremolo at the cavity


Tuning -
  • Loosen the locking nut.
  • Set your fine tuners to middle position.
  • Tune up your guitar to standard or whichever tunings u wish. "Cross-tuning" = Tune the low E string> A string> low E string again> D string> low E string>A string... and so forth. Keep repeating for all strings. To make it easier, tune the previous string generally a bit sharper or about half step
    sharper so you don't have to repeat cross-tuning too much.
  • If the floating bridge comes out, loosen the tunings and then tighten the springs in the tremolo cavity at the back, if the bridge sinks, then vice-versa, until the bridge is parallel to the body.
  • Be patient.
  • If you're happy with your tunings and your bridge is well centered/parallel, lock the nuts.
  • Tune again using the fine tuners.


<NOTES>
  • Stretch the strings first if they're new.
  • You might want to have at least 3 springs at the back and after following the tuning method above, tighten the 2 claw's screw for about 1/8th or 1/16th. This is to prevent your floating bridge from getting stuck to the knife edges on the posts after you bend notes. You can ignore this if your bridge/trem is reliable (e.g. Edge Pro, Edge, ZR, Lo-Pro Edge, Original Floyd Rose, Licensed Floyd Rose by Kahler/Schaller/Gotoh). You "may" face this problem a lot if your guitar is brand new.

Tremolo Angle for Different Kinds of FRs -
Ibanez ZPS3 Edge Zero (Diagram)
Ibanez ZPS3 Edge Zero (Photo)
Ibanez SynchroniZR (Diagram)
Ibanez SynchroniZR (Photo)
Ibanez Edge Pro (Diagram)
Ibanez Edge Pro (Photo)
Ibanez Edge Pro (Photo)
Ibanez Edge Pro II (Photo)
Ibanez Edge III (Diagram)
Ibanez Edge III (Photo)
Ibanez ZR Tremolo (Diagram)
Ibanez ZR Tremolo (Photo)
Ibanez Lo Pro Edge (Diagram)
Ibanez Lo Pro Edge (Photo)
Ibanez Edge (Photo)
Ibanez Edge/Lo Pro Edge (Photo) (see the tapped knife edges from the side, they're straight with body)
Ibanez Lo TRS (Diagram)
Kahler Fulcrum Series (Diagram)
Original Floyd Rose/Gotoh Licensed FR/Schaller Licensed FR/Ibanez Lo TRS II/Ibanez ILT1/Most LFR In The World (Diagram)
Original Floyd Rose/Gotoh Licensed FR/Schaller Licensed FR/Ibanez Lo TRS II/Ibanez ILT1/Most LFR In The World (Photo)

Intonation -
For intonation, the only thing you should be adjusting are the saddle screws. Labeled (B)


  • Make sure that you're tuned to perfect pitch in the open or 12th fret harmonics
  • If you dont have the intonation-tool*, you need to loosen the string 1 by 1 and adjust its intonation step by step.
  • Here's the tricky part, your string needs to be properly loosed and you might want to hold it using ur fingers because if the tension is still there, the strings will pull the intonation saddle after you loosen it.
  • Loosen the saddle screw, see your notes that you just jotted, if the fretted note is SHARP, move the saddle AWAY from the neck and vice-versa.
  • You might have to move the saddle quite a bit to realize changes. You can get it really far back, past the bolt's head or washer in fact.
  • There are TWO bolt positions for adjustments so if the adjustment is not enough on either sides, unscrew the saddle screw and move it to the other position.
  • Tighten the intonation lock screw firmly taking care not to strip the screw.
  • Retune the string and retest fret-12 fretted to the fret-12 natural harmonic.
  • This is probably the most sickening step of all. This is a really really by trial and error, so if your desired pitch isnt working, you have to do it again and again and repeat the steps above until its properly intoned.

<NOTES>
  • Loosen the strings to make way for the allen/hex wrench to be properly inserted onto the saddle screw. AVOID hex wrench contact with strings, It can slowly scrape it and break your string (usually those lower gauges).
  • You don't need to loosen the strings if you have an intonation tool.
  • A blocking mechanism as simple as blocks of wood can be extremely helpful. Make sure when you block your system, they're parallel to the body. When blocked, you do not have to worry about the tremolo system rocking forward or backward (which makes intonation a hell).


Intonation Tool for Different Kinds of FRs -
OFR/LFR Intonation Tool
Ibanez Edge Intonation Tool
Ibanez Lo Pro Edge Intonation Tool
Ibanez EdgeZero Intonation Tool
Ibanez SynchroZR Intonation Tool
Ibanez ZR-II Intonation Tool
Ibanez ZR/ZR-II/EdgeZero/SynchroZR Intonation Tool

Action -
Adjust the screw labeled (A) according to your preference. If you have the Ibanez Edge/Lo Pro Edge/Edge Zero/Gotoh LFR system, make sure you've unlock the "locking studs" before making any adjustments.


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STANDARD BRIDGE/SETUP QUESTION - GOES HERE

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Last edited by madpickin03 at Jan 4, 2009,
madpickin03
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#2
Tremolo Swap -
  • Ibanez Edge III route accepts----------------------- Edge Pro, Original Floyd Rose, Gotoh LFR
  • Ibanez Edge/Lo Pro Edge route accepts------- Lo Pro Edge, Edge Pro, Original Floyd Rose
  • Ibanez Edge Pro/Edge Pro II route accepts--- Original Floyd Rose
  • Original Floyd Rose route accepts---------------- Edge, Lo Pro Edge, Gotoh LFR

keep in mind that these are immediate drop in. Changing the studs might temper the fitting minutely and requires some drilling or routing.

Headstock Area -
Make sure the nuts are aligned properly and that you set the retainer bar at proper level so that when you lock the nuts, it wont go out of tune so violently. You just need to tighten the retainer bar till the string is lower than the nut level.


Tremolo Arm for Ibanez Edge/Lo Pro Edge/Edge Zero/ZR//ZR-II/SynchroniZR -
To prevent the plastic bushings from damaged, make sure you insert the arm properly.


Miscellaneous -
Ibanez ZR Tremolo - Engaging the ZERO Point System for ZR
Ibanez ZR Tremolo - Removing the ZERO Point System For Full Floating Mode
Ibanez ZPS3 - Engaging the ZERO Point System for Edge Zero
Ibanez Edge-FX/Edge-III-FX Bridge Angle
Kahler 2200-2300 "Pro" Setup Page

Helpful References & Videos -
Very Helpful Restringing/Setup Video
Floyd Rose Official Site
Restringing Video
Ibanez Rules Setup Page
Jemsite Setup Page
Youtube Setup References
Kahler "Pro" Setup References
Kahler Traditional-Vintage-Modern Instruction Manual

Things to Keep in Mind -

  • Don't unleash the fury by swinging your guitar like Yngwie unless you have sufficient practice or professional training, you might end up hurting yourself.
  • Floyd Rose system is very dangerous, keep your distance.
  • Stringing ball-end first at the tuning posts prevents you from accidentally puncturing major arteries.
  • Don't use glass cleaners to clean your guitar.
  • Keep away from extreme temperature


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Last edited by madpickin03 at Feb 12, 2009,
Archeo
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#3
madpickin, sorry but this thread REALLY needs attention and the spotlight...

because it's a great source of info for the other Floyd users who are new to the thing.
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#4
excellent.

I didn't know that about the retainer bar either. o_O

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Quote by Archeo
madpickin, sorry but this thread REALLY needs attention and the spotlight...

because it's a great source of info for the other Floyd users who are new to the thing.

Sorry but the power to stick this on the front page is far beyond my control.

Same goes for my fellow colleague's Q & A thread, ppl just keep refusing to post there about setups, they just prefer making a new thread.
Quote by Dave_Mc
excellent.

I didn't know that about the retainer bar either. o_O


well now ya know

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Quote by madpickin03
well now ya know






(and bump!)
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this should be stickied. very useful... (bump...)
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#10
I've apparently got to adjust the height of my ZR.

Thanks for the info .
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#11
Update 1:
- Added more diagrams for tremolo angle
- Added misc. section
- ZR tremolo zero point setup guide and info. about the stop bar function
- Fixed Edge bridge angle

enjoy
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Could you find any info on less known tremolos? Like Schecter and DEAN liscenced tremolos?
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Quote by jigy-i-joe
Could you find any info on less known tremolos? Like Schecter and DEAN liscenced tremolos?

They are basically the same as an OFR/Gotoh/Schaller in terms of shape.
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Quote by jigy-i-joe
Could you find any info on less known tremolos? Like Schecter and DEAN liscenced tremolos?

The setup guide for Licensed Floyd Rose Tremolos from Schecter/Dean/ESP/Yamaha/Washburn/Fender/TRS505/TRS101 etc etc are exactly the same an OFR setup. They're just different in terms of quality and material build, that's all.
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Uh...you forgot the Kahler Fulcrum-type bridges.

Oh well, I'm probably one of the only people in the world with one.
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^ uhm i hate kahler bridges

anyways, ill attempt my best at doing it later on
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Update 2:
- Added Kahler Fulcrum type bridge for spyder etc. parallel diagram
- Kahler 2200-2300 "Pro" simple 1 image all setup instruction (Misc. Section)
- All of Kahler's old instruction manual scanned in *.pdf format (Helpful Website Section)

i hope i made all the Kahler users happy now, and certainly hope they're helpful
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I found a video that shows you how to change strings on a floyd rose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwNVjNohOt4


Good video. I've never used a FR and never will, but after watching that video I don't see what the fuss is about.
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Quote by Dave_Mc


Quote by PunishedOne
Good video. I've never used a FR and never will, but after watching that video I don't see what the fuss is about.

Try getting one and see
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^ agreed. to be fair, you probably have to think things like hair metal are cool, but if you do, floyds are awesome fun.
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I've just replaced the strings on my Edge Pro, but the thing keeps tilting out towards the bridge even if I'm followjng the guide. The springs won't tighten up anymore, either. :S
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Iv'e got a bit of fret buzz on my jackson how would i get rid of it, just not sure how to adjust the floyd rose bridge
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Quote by Edamr
I've just replaced the strings on my Edge Pro, but the thing keeps tilting out towards the bridge even if I'm followjng the guide. The springs won't tighten up anymore, either. :S

What gauge did you restring it with?
Quote by sepultura alma
Iv'e got a bit of fret buzz on my jackson how would i get rid of it, just not sure how to adjust the floyd rose bridge

Increase the action by adjusting the pivot screws (tremolo posts)
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Cheers madpickin03, I'll give it a go.
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I wondered where this had got to - deserves a bump in light of the ridiculous number of Floyd threads at the moment.
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^ good call (and bump!)!

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madpick actually reminded me of it himself, but he's far to cool to bump his own thread
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hey bro, nice thread as usual.

just pm a mod have them add it to one of the the top stickies.
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I've got a question for you guys.

I just got a new guitar, a custom built strat. It has a Schaller Floyd Rose, the regular kind. Now, the guy who built it, he put some really big gauge strings on it, I think 11-52. Well I restrung it with 9-46 and now I have to adjust the bridge so it won't descend into the its cavity.

Of course I could let him to do it, but he's really busy all the time so I'd probably have to wait for a week or so... So my question is, should I do it myself or can I damage something? It seems easy tho, just loosen the 2 springs in the back right? Oh and it has 3 springs
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Very good as always, nothing particularly new to me, but it is fantastically concise comapred to some other guides I've seen around elsewhere, where people blather on for ages.
Nicely done
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Quote by The Axeman
I've got a question for you guys.

I just got a new guitar, a custom built strat. It has a Schaller Floyd Rose, the regular kind. Now, the guy who built it, he put some really big gauge strings on it, I think 11-52. Well I restrung it with 9-46 and now I have to adjust the bridge so it won't descend into the its cavity.

Of course I could let him to do it, but he's really busy all the time so I'd probably have to wait for a week or so... So my question is, should I do it myself or can I damage something? It seems easy tho, just loosen the 2 springs in the back right? Oh and it has 3 springs


You've got it right, just don't overdo it, and slacken the strings slightly before you do it, *then* tune to pitch, at least that's what I learned...
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