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#121
Ok, so I removed the strings off my guitar, but the bridge is basically cemented in place...I cant fit anything under it to hold it up. What do I do to loosen it?
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#122
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Ok, so I removed the strings off my guitar, but the bridge is basically cemented in place...I cant fit anything under it to hold it up. What do I do to loosen it?

All the strings? Quite a dangerous position you're in, never leave it that way or you "might" damage your knife edges (long term, depends on which FR u have).

What you can do is, loosen the springs at the back, dive down slowly and try to block your bridge.
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#123
Quote by jj1565
bridge height screws...

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/screws_bridge.htm

or you can pick up a new set of saddles, and screws for ur guitar under $20.

or you can take out the other peg on that saddle and walk into a hardware store with it and as for a matching screw for the other side. it will have a head on it, but if it's the right height, it will fit.



You guys were right all along. They were screws, I just couldn't tell . I have no idea why I thought they were springs. Thanks for the advice.
#124
Im just bringing it into the shop next week. I'm not doing it myself.
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#125
What's wrong with doing it yourself, your guitar's not gonna explode just because you took off all the strings...
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#127
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lol that's why I was confused. I haven't got any.

Do I need to take the whole Floyd Rose out to fix the wobbly whammy bar?

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#129
The answer would be....NO

You adjust the "tremolo claw" in whatever measurement that works, as long as the bridge stays parallel with the body.
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#130
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Thanks just read it. BUT.

Unfortunately my whammy bar socket crumbled after I'd tightened it. The screw's snapped in half. lol. ****ing Floyd Rose. Should I get an Ibanez Edge Pro trem or similar to replace it? £160ish? What are your thoughts? I don't want to have to go hunting for another whammy bar socket/holder unit that'll just break again after the first bit of whammy vibrato.
#131
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you can change the way your springs are placed, but what i would normally do is to buy a forth spring.
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#132
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Thanks just read it. BUT.

Unfortunately my whammy bar socket crumbled after I'd tightened it. The screw's snapped in half. lol. ****ing Floyd Rose. Should I get an Ibanez Edge Pro trem or similar to replace it? £160ish? What are your thoughts? I don't want to have to go hunting for another whammy bar socket/holder unit that'll just break again after the first bit of whammy vibrato.

The EdgePro cannot be simply interchangeble. Floyd Roses dont work that way. First of all what type of FR do you have? Just a normal one?
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#134
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Hello. My guitar has a floyd rose and is constantly out of tune by half a step, can adjusting the spring tension make it better?

Just make sure your guitar is always parallel with the body in perfect pitch.
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#135
Quote by madpickin03
The EdgePro cannot be simply interchangeble. Floyd Roses dont work that way. First of all what type of FR do you have? Just a normal one?


Standard/Normal Floyd Rose, yes. Should I just buy a replacement whammy bar socket? This for instance?:

http://www.allparts.uk.com/retrotrem-system-floyd-rose-tremolo-p-4119.html?p=product

Why can't I replace my standard Floyd Rose with an Ibanez Edge Pro? Different size hole or something? Thanks!
#136
The Edgepro has different route from a normal FR route, wouldnt fit without modification to ur body.

That replacement socket would work but a better upgrade would be getting an OFR/Schaller if you have cash in hand. You can think about doing this only if you love the feel of that particular guitar and that you're committed to it.
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#138
First of all what guitar do you have? got any pics so i can look at the system before making any judgment ?
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#140
Hmm, an OFR/Schaller "might" be a perfect swap
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#142
The thing is, the Schaller 2 has lower profile than OFR/Schaller LFR and im not particularly sure whether your LFR has low profile or not.

My advice, if you love that guitar so much, then probably its worth a shot. If you're just OK with it, then save your money, just get the arm.
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#143
Ok, I have an Edge 3 tremolo for my Ibanez RG 4 EX1. I am trying understanding how to block the tremolo and cross tune it so that the tremolo looks like the one in the picture when I'm ready to play. Let me go through the steps I take to see If someone can see where I am going wrong. I block the trem using a pencil as shown in the thread. I cross tune my stings ( big E then little E then the A sting and so on) so that its in tune. Then I carefully remove the pencil and it brings the tunings to about F flat or so. Then I continue to cross tune my stings down to standard E tuning. But now my tremolo does not look like the edge 3 picture you have posted, its a little too far into the cavity.

Ok now I know that you can tighten the claw springs in the back to increase tension to pull the tremolo "into" the guitar or loosen them to allow the strings to have more pull. Is that correct? If it is like I assume, then I would try to loosen the springs but I can't for one of the screws pull out of the wood and its not good at all. I don't try and loosen or tighten the springs when there is tension either.

I'm sorry if this is confusing, I hope I am describing my situation clearly so far, but what steps do I need to take to raise the "tail" of the tremolo a bit more so that I looks like the one in the picture. I like where the pivoting studs are at, they are close so that playing is easy and there are no buzzes when I bend, or play at the higher frets. Besides loosening those springs in the back, what can I do to achieve a flush tremolo and keep it in standard E? Please HELP!!
#145
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Ok, I have an Edge 3 tremolo for my Ibanez RG 4 EX1. I am trying understanding how to block the tremolo and cross tune it so that the tremolo looks like the one in the picture when I'm ready to play. Let me go through the steps I take to see If someone can see where I am going wrong. I block the trem using a pencil as shown in the thread. I cross tune my stings ( big E then little E then the A sting and so on) so that its in tune. Then I carefully remove the pencil and it brings the tunings to about F flat or so. Then I continue to cross tune my stings down to standard E tuning. But now my tremolo does not look like the edge 3 picture you have posted, its a little too far into the cavity.

Ok now I know that you can tighten the claw springs in the back to increase tension to pull the tremolo "into" the guitar or loosen them to allow the strings to have more pull. Is that correct? If it is like I assume, then I would try to loosen the springs but I can't for one of the screws pull out of the wood and its not good at all. I don't try and loosen or tighten the springs when there is tension either.

I'm sorry if this is confusing, I hope I am describing my situation clearly so far, but what steps do I need to take to raise the "tail" of the tremolo a bit more so that I looks like the one in the picture. I like where the pivoting studs are at, they are close so that playing is easy and there are no buzzes when I bend, or play at the higher frets. Besides loosening those springs in the back, what can I do to achieve a flush tremolo and keep it in standard E? Please HELP!!

You're not reading the tutorials correctly. Blocking is only done when you wanna restring your guitar, not tune it. For tuning, you just gotta let your tremolo float and cross tune (tuning one string, then another, then to the previous string back, like i explained).

If your tail is sticking back when you're in tune, then you need to loosen the back springs a bit. Then retune again.
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#146
Quote by venomouskiss320
how do i drop tune like to dropped c,without it tuning back up that is

Get appropriate string gauge to rebalance the string tension so that its not too loose. Then retune like normal, balancing it by adjusting the springs at the back.
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#148
Im sure its an excellent system, just didnt get the chance to try one so cant really compare it to anything.
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#149
Hey thanks a ton, kinda feel sorta foolish about not being completely thorough with the tutorials. I couldn't loosen the springs anymore so I wound up just taking one of the springs off and its parallel now!
#150
MMkay. So as far as routing for a FR, is there a difference between the schematics for an OFR and a LFR? Cuz on the Floyd Rose site, they have diagrams to rout an Original, but I have a Licensed and can't seem to find anywhere that has diagrams for that. So is there a difference, size-wise or anything?
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#151
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MMkay. So as far as routing for a FR, is there a difference between the schematics for an OFR and a LFR? Cuz on the Floyd Rose site, they have diagrams to rout an Original, but I have a Licensed and can't seem to find anywhere that has diagrams for that. So is there a difference, size-wise or anything?

This is pretty general and wide. LFRs have a lot of design, i mean A LOT. Everything is pretty much based on the OFR, hence why they're given license BUT, not all of them have the same routing. Different companies use different LFRs, they dont come out from the same factory. Gotoh makes Ibanez Edges, Schaller makes their own LFR, same goes for Yamaha's LFRs. ALL DIFFERENT.

Being said, most LFRs which have the standard size/pattern of an OFR should accommodate an OFR pretty well. A low-profile LFR could accept FloydRose2/FloydRosePro.

Ibanez on the other hand, is entirely different. The routing that accepts OFR are IBZ_LoTRS1/LoTRS2/ILT1/EdgeIII route.
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#152
^ just to add, the studs on the lo-trs are smaller- the route should accomodate an OFR, but you'd need to drill for the OFR's larger studs.
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#153
Oh yeah, thx for that. Totally forgot 'bout the trem posts.

Just to add summore, I dont think any of the Ibanezes posts thread will accept OFR's, so if you're swapping for an OFR, you oughta use the old posts. Tested on ILT1/EdgeIII, and dave tested it on LoTRS1. I'm pretty sure the LoTRS2's trem posts have different thread than the OFRs coz they're pretty much the same with ILT1.
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#154
^ oh ok. the lo-trs II posts, judging by the pic on jemsite, are larger than lo-trs, but still might not be the same size as OFR.

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#155
Yeah, i wasted my money last year when i bought the OFR's trem posts, thinking that it'd fit the ILT1 thread, which is pretty much the same as LoTRS2 .
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#156
dang, that sucks. someone i know bought a whole gotoh trem and still hasn't fitted it yet because of the studs.
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#160
Quote by Pott
Cool tutorial! I made something similar a long time ago with some more cleaning/setup questions adressed as well as how to string with all the strings taken off if it helps.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68754

Hmm, cleaning fretboards huh, well try n beat this

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5399147&postcount=5
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