#1
Hey, me and my band are looking to record our own demo. We already recorded some songs (www.myspace.com/incarnia) but as you could hear we have programmed drums. We would like to record with real drums. Any of you guys know which ones are good? Thanks in advance.
-Shecter C-7 Hellraiser FR, Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR,
ESP LTD F-2005, Ibanez RG7321
-Peavey 6505+
-Maxon OD-9, Dunlop 535Q Wah, EHX Deluxe Memory Man, MXR 10-band EQ, MXR Super Comp
Melodeath: www.myspace.com/incarnia
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#2
Get any pair of cardioid pattern condenser microphones and hang them over the kit, left and right. Then put a dynamic mic in the kick drum. Run them all through a good preamp and output the preamp to whatever you record with.

Oh, and go to a different forum.
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#3
Budget?
Guitars:
Fender Standard Strat
Fender Deluxe Active Jazz Bass
Martin DX1

Amps:
Peavey Classic 50/212

Pedal Board:
Gator 8-Bus
Boss TU-2 Tuner
Digitech Bad Monkey
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#4
Thanks, where else would i put this thread?
-Shecter C-7 Hellraiser FR, Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR,
ESP LTD F-2005, Ibanez RG7321
-Peavey 6505+
-Maxon OD-9, Dunlop 535Q Wah, EHX Deluxe Memory Man, MXR 10-band EQ, MXR Super Comp
Melodeath: www.myspace.com/incarnia
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#5
I guess like 500$ max.
-Shecter C-7 Hellraiser FR, Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR,
ESP LTD F-2005, Ibanez RG7321
-Peavey 6505+
-Maxon OD-9, Dunlop 535Q Wah, EHX Deluxe Memory Man, MXR 10-band EQ, MXR Super Comp
Melodeath: www.myspace.com/incarnia
UG Gain Whore
#6
And how many pieces does your drummer play?
Guitars:
Fender Standard Strat
Fender Deluxe Active Jazz Bass
Martin DX1

Amps:
Peavey Classic 50/212

Pedal Board:
Gator 8-Bus
Boss TU-2 Tuner
Digitech Bad Monkey
Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger
ISP Decimator
Dual button footswitch
#7
He's going to have 3 toms, 1 floor tom, bass drum, hi hats, 2 crashes, 1 ride, 1 china, 1 splash.
-Shecter C-7 Hellraiser FR, Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR,
ESP LTD F-2005, Ibanez RG7321
-Peavey 6505+
-Maxon OD-9, Dunlop 535Q Wah, EHX Deluxe Memory Man, MXR 10-band EQ, MXR Super Comp
Melodeath: www.myspace.com/incarnia
UG Gain Whore
#8
Bass Drum:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Shure-Beta-52A-Kick-Drum-Mic?sku=270267

Overheads (hang one over the left side, one over the right; whatever picks up the cymbals the best):

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-Perception-150?sku=270377

Snare:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Shure-SM57-InstrumentVocal-Mic?sku=270102
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/CAD-DSM1-Drum-Mic-Mount?sku=270770

Toms:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sennheiser-E604-Evolution-Series-Dynamic-TomSnare-Mic?sku=270817

I'm not sure how much that comes out to, and I can't really explain micing patterns, but these are the mics I used with the last drummer I recorded with. They worked fantastic.

Keep in mind you'll need cables and stands.
Guitars:
Fender Standard Strat
Fender Deluxe Active Jazz Bass
Martin DX1

Amps:
Peavey Classic 50/212

Pedal Board:
Gator 8-Bus
Boss TU-2 Tuner
Digitech Bad Monkey
Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger
ISP Decimator
Dual button footswitch
#9
get an AKG drum mic set. reasonable priced. good quality.

an EV RE-20 will do anything and everything, but one mic costs more than your budget.
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#10
You don't need tom mics, the overheads will pick them up just fine. I'd say two overheads, kick mic, and a snare mic for that extra attack. Remember, you've gotta get some preamps, and good ones can be pricey.
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#11
alright sweet, thanks a lot man.
-Shecter C-7 Hellraiser FR, Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR,
ESP LTD F-2005, Ibanez RG7321
-Peavey 6505+
-Maxon OD-9, Dunlop 535Q Wah, EHX Deluxe Memory Man, MXR 10-band EQ, MXR Super Comp
Melodeath: www.myspace.com/incarnia
UG Gain Whore
#12
Quote by Muphin
You don't need tom mics, the overheads will pick them up just fine. I'd say two overheads, kick mic, and a snare mic for that extra attack. Remember, you've gotta get some preamps, and good ones can be pricey.


That really comes down to tuning. The frequency range of the overhead mics could potentionally be low enough for the tom toms depending on tuning, but they probably wouldn't sound to good with the floor tom.
Guitars:
Fender Standard Strat
Fender Deluxe Active Jazz Bass
Martin DX1

Amps:
Peavey Classic 50/212

Pedal Board:
Gator 8-Bus
Boss TU-2 Tuner
Digitech Bad Monkey
Ibanez CF7 Chorus/Flanger
ISP Decimator
Dual button footswitch
#13
Quote by TehNez
That really comes down to tuning. The frequency range of the overhead mics could potentionally be low enough for the tom toms depending on tuning, but they probably wouldn't sound to good with the floor tom.


I use a pair of cheap Joemeek JM27 overheads and they even pick up the bass drum. But I only have a 5-piece with two cymbals and hi hats.
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#14
you only need 2 snare mics, 2 overheads and 1 bass drum mics. Experiment with miking techniques. Alternatively download BFD and go digital.
#16
OKay... here's a lil list of recomenended mic's from the studio where i study sound-engineering..
Its only a recommendation cuz finally it comes up to trying different stuff n what YOU think sounds the best.. its subjective!

Kick - AKG D112
Top of Snare - Shure SM 57
Bottom of Snare - Berodynamic condensor
Hi-Hats - Nimen 184
Tombs - Sennheiser MD421
Over Heads (panned L & R) - Audiotechnica 4033A

again its subjective but thats what we usually use in the studio for recording drums... Sound pretty good but it mostly depends on the overall acoustics of the room, placement of the mic's and how the kit sounds.

Edit: and make sure your recording interface has a "Phantom Power" switch. You need to have it switched on if you're using condensor microphones or else they wont work!
#17
Quote by Muphin
You don't need tom mics, the overheads will pick them up just fine. I'd say two overheads, kick mic, and a snare mic for that extra attack. Remember, you've gotta get some preamps, and good ones can be pricey.
erm ... yes ......and no.

The balance between the toms and cymbals can't be adjusted, and to my ears, it always sounds too heavy with cymbals. And you will never get the "cannon" kind of sound that bottom mics give.


None of the ideas here are bad. just preference. But I'd probably do 2 of these:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/AKG-Custom-4Piece-Drum-Microphone-Pack?sku=278572

That will give you 2 larger diaphragm mics for the bass and floor. and 6 for whatever else.
$200 each x 2 sets = $400
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#18
sweet thanks ^ i was actually look at that just before. I'll talk to everyone about it all. thanks again everyone.
-Shecter C-7 Hellraiser FR, Schecter C-1 Hellraiser FR,
ESP LTD F-2005, Ibanez RG7321
-Peavey 6505+
-Maxon OD-9, Dunlop 535Q Wah, EHX Deluxe Memory Man, MXR 10-band EQ, MXR Super Comp
Melodeath: www.myspace.com/incarnia
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