#1
hey guys!..
I wanna ask if a guitarist got a 100 watts amp. what should I get?

the same or bigger or what?... I know it's kinda stupid but please help me

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#2
Bigger definately. If it's tube, you need an absolutely huge amp.
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then Fender Rumble 100 is out.... maybe getting Hartke VX3500, 350 watts is enough?

and is it good for gigs in open places ?
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#9
Okay Then ! Hartke VX3500 it is

thanks alot guys !
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#10
Or, any other amp with that much power?
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#11
yeah but I think the hartke will do the job...do u have any other amp with the same power in mind ?
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#12
Don't get Hartke. I have one (ok so its only a 120watt combo) but its rubbish, poor design meant that i've needed 2 new input jacks, some new circuitry and a new speaker cone inside 15 months, since these upgrades tho it has been fine
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#13
The guitarist in my band has that amp. Tell him he should find another amp to buy. And that Hartke is fine.
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#16
yeah, if youre really into music and are willing to take the next step... buy a good head and cab... your guitarist will cry on the corner of your shows if you do ahah
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my guitar player has the same amp. i use an Ampeg B2R amp with a a Ampeg 4x10 cab. thats only 200w with one cab. i have no problem being heard. the bass amp wattage needs to be at least double the guitar amp, for solidstate. this is a general rule.
#18
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anyways the hartke combo is ok. They make really good heads but their cabinets leave a fair bit to be desired. I own the Ha2500 head and the VXL 410 cab and the sound quality is excellent but i have had to replace a speaker in the cab twice.

and in regards to the rule of needing twice as much wattage as the guitarist, this is only true if your guitarist is intending to turn his up to full volume. I have gigged for a fair while now and i have never needed to push my amp past half volume for the fact that they get miced up and put through the front of house. I know alot of fellow bassist who use 100watt combos and get through gigs fine.
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#19
i'm not telling you not to get a big one cuz go for it i say but i don't know why bassists seem to have this idea you need insane wattage. i play in a band out of a 60 watt and one guitarist has an old fender 80 watt and the other guitarist has a peavey 120 watt and both of their amps are mic'd through our PA and you can hear me just fine. i dunno maybe my amp is just oddly loud.....i'd vote for the hartke personally.
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#20
well, I'm not sure that the only 2 music stores have an Ashdown Product...there's only Fender,Hartke,Roland & Marshall...yeah that sucks!

so what u guys think of the Roland DB-900 ? because I'm not sure of the Hartke from what u guys wrote...

I'm Confused !
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#21
Well its not only the Watt it the speakers. Im had 100 watt 112 that cant keep up with a 60 watt 212! But Id say get a good 15' atleast if moneys short try the Behringer ULTRABASS BXL3000 300W 1x15" Bass Combo Its a ok amp but it's got the power and i dont really like Behringer (not many do) but its got the kick for a good price!!
#22
The general concensus is you'll want 4x the wattage your guitar player has. Not only for stage volume, but for headroom, as well. If there aren't a lot of speakers involved, you could settle with 3x the wattage, or maybe even 2x the wattage if your guitarist doesn't fuzz out his tone and you have more speakers than him.

My guitarist uses a 65W Marshall combo, and I use a 250 Fender combo, and we like the even-ness of that setup. If you're competing against a 100W amp, you'll want 400W, but those 300W combos should do just fine (especially if you have an extension cabinet).

EDIT: Don't you DARE go Behringer. Not only are there products inconsistant and explosion prone, they basically lie about how much power their amps have. If you get a 300W Behringer combo, you'll be lost in the sauce. But, hey, some bassists like that kinda thing.
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Rule of Thumb: Always, Get the biggest amp you can get.

Wrong. What if the biggest amp he can get is a behringer? And many 100 watt tube heads sound better than 1000 watt solid states.
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#25
Behringers arn't too bad. The only problem is that you can't always get a good tone out of it when you turn it to '11'.

I'd say twice the power of the guitar's amp would be fine
#26
ive got a 3ow and can still hear it good and play it good when a tube amp is playin
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Yeah, the Ashdown MAG series are ecxellent. And if you can stretch your budget a bit further the ABM series are even better, and they are 575 watts so you will have plenty of headroom no matter what it is needed for.

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You only need twice as much wattage as what the guitarist has.
#28
okay then, there's 2 options : the Hartke VX3500, or Randall DB-900 because they are the only bass amps with 300-350 watts in the music stores in my country :S!

what u think ?
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#29
well i took a look at both and really it's a pretty close call to me... but the roland says it has 7 speakers(including the horn) 4 10" speakers 2 12"speakers and the horn.... i guess you buy the 12" speakers seperately because it doesn't show them... but it has it in the desription so....

because of my confusion over that speaker stuff and also becuase of the hartke's 10band eq i pick the hartke... but remember i believe the hartke needs another 8 ohm extension cab to use the full 350 watts otherwise it's 240.

EDIT: ok so i read a little better and noticed it said 2 12" passive radiator speakers. while i'm not sure on this my guess is these are ... hidden somewhere inside and do not point straight forward...so that your sound is strong in all directions instead of just right in front of your amp.....REMEMBER THAT'S A GUESS......

and so now i must say i really don't know which to pick because if i'm right about those 12" speakers that's really cool.
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#31
Yes, I would say it's a toss up for you.

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#32
the rule of thumb I've always gone by and preached is you need 3x the wattage of the guitarist to cut through the mix, but that tube amps count as about 3x to solid state.

However, I must point out this formula gets kinda f'd around 100 watts, and whys that?


Because a 500 watt bass amp is loud enough for anything, as is a 100 watt tube guitar amp.
Basically, use that formula for smaller settings. You could probably get away with a 300 watt bass amp, I'd recommend atleast a 500, but regardless of what happens both you and the guitarist need to be willing to sacrifice having the volume on 11 the whole time in order to hear the other better.
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#33
Over kill on amps isn't necersarily a bad thing, it just means you have mroe headroom which means your tone is better.

For my next amp im looking at 1450W - 1600W, I will never need that much but I might as well just have it yunno.

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#34
The rule of thumb is getting an amp three times as strong as the guitarist's amp, and not getting a Bheringer.
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EDIT: ok so i read a little better and noticed it said 2 12" passive radiator speakers. while i'm not sure on this my guess is these are ... hidden somewhere inside and do not point straight forward...so that your sound is strong in all directions instead of just right in front of your amp.....REMEMBER THAT'S A GUESS......

and so now i must say i really don't know which to pick because if i'm right about those 12" speakers that's really cool.


passive radiators are not speakers! they are holes(ports), with a flat speaker looking cover. they may increase the bottom-end somewhat, but they are passive, i.e. no power used. they make use of the air movement inside the cab. many stereo speakers of the 80's used them. not so common now, for good reason. gimmick!