Poll: Is feminism hypocrisy?
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View poll results: Is feminism hypocrisy?
Yes
156 71%
No
17 8%
Meh
47 21%
Voters: 220.
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#1
So today I got a little drunk at this volunteer thing and was ranting to some girl about how the reason most feminists are white women is because they can't whine about being an ethnic minority so being white women they have to bitch about something else. The point I was trying to make was that feminists are only thinking of themselves (women) whereas someone like me believes in humanism which holds equal status for every human being. I mean Nelly McLung, the most famous Canadian feminist was a nazi sympathizer for goodness' sakes. Anyway, I would be interested in your thoughts.
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#2
I said yes.

Because I'm a male pig. I rape and beat women.
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#3
This is just from my observations but from what I've seen, feminism wants selective equality.
#5
Women have equality. If anything, with affirmative action and all, white men are being discriminated against. By the way dude, you are just asking for a flaming.
#6
We look at porn.... so what? We see them as objects... so?

They see me as a credit card.. Dikes...


Just kidding
#7
feminism = women superiority, not equality

Feminists started trying to make women equal to men now they are trying to make themselves superior. It's a real double standard.
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I said yes.

Because I'm a male pig. I rape and beat women.


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#9
I hate Feminists with a passion. Women are weak, and can't do what men can. End of story. If a woman throws the "well I have to deal with the pain of childbirth" I tell them that we really don't need any more babies in this world.
#10
i agree with the feminist movement to make them equal. however it should stop there.
#11
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They whine to much.

Ain't that the truth.
#12
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Women have equality. If anything, with affirmative action and all, white men are being discriminated against. By the way dude, you are just asking for a flaming.

agreed.

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#14
Feminism used to have a legitimate purpose, but now - as far as the First World is concerned - it's gotten a little over-the-top.
#15
ideally feminism is supposed to be about equality for women, however society has skewed feminism into a stereotype where a feminist is seen as a pms'ing whiny you know what. It's a shame people lost focus.
#16
You pull the race card like an ignorant, liberal Gambit.
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#17
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feminism = women superiority, not equality

Feminists started trying to make women equal to men now they are trying to make themselves superior. It's a real double standard.


I disagree, it depends on the take on it. I think feminism itself actually makes sense. But self-proclaimed "feminists" know nothing of the different types of feminism, the reasonings behind them, and what can be done to promote social equality. They kind of just jump on the "I'M A PROUD FEMALE" boat, and it motors them right along to hypocrisy.

Feminism itself makes sense to me.

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they can't whine about being an ethnic minority so being white women they have to bitch about something else.


This is interesting. But everybody likes to think that they're being oppressed in some way. Observe:

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white men are being discriminated against


Of course I don't mean they like to think it in a positive way, like they're promoting it. And I don't mean to pick on you personally Chickenparts, it is something that happens a lot. The world is unequal in different ways through everyone's eyes. And typically, everyone is more sympathetic towards themselves. Just sayin'.

Everybody likes to act like they're looking for objective equality. But what they really want is to get ahead.
#18
Yeah they definitely want selective equality.
Equal pay? They want.
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Yeah they definitely want selective equality.
Equal pay? They want.
Paying For the date? NO WAY they say.

doing the same amount of work, nope.
#20
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Yeah they definitely want selective equality.
Equal pay? They want.
Paying For the date? NO WAY they say.

+1
#21
Well, I feel that like with every group, there are the crazies, the moderates, and the "meh"s. I know this sounds stupid, but just like girls/women can't understand alot of things about men's lives, like habits when hanging out with their friends, I think it's hard for men to understand things about women. What's frustrating is sexism is very, very subtle. There's no stories about groups like the KKK lynching women. There are women who think females need preferential treatment in the same way that many minorities get special treatment. Then there are feminists who closely relate to the enviornment (mother earth?) and campaign for both causes. there are anarcha-feminists, humanitarian feminists, seperatist feminists....my point being that feminism is different for each person. There are actually ethnic feminist groups, like black feminists and chicana feminists.

I think the reason that many think that white women just want to complain is not only because the ones that get the most attention are the crazy man-lesbians that hate men, but because women's rights are/were often overlooked in history because of the magnitude of other movements. The women's rights movement was closely linked with the abolitionist movement, but was eclipsed by he struggle for the freedom of the slaves. I think that when you don't have outright racism staring you in the face, sexism is more evident. The leader of the SNCC (Stokely Carmichael?), which staged sit ins and protests during the Civil Rights, movement actually said "the only position for women in the SNCC is prone (on their backs)".

So yes, there are feminists who want selective treatment, there are feminists who hate men, there are feminists who want to create a nation solely of women, but the most feminists want equality. Unfortunately, sometimes the government needs to take action to do what they think ensures sexual equality.

Sorry for the essay/rant.
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#22
Did somebody call me? (haha joke)

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I hate Feminists with a passion. Women are weak, and can't do what men can. End of story. If a woman throws the "well I have to deal with the pain of childbirth" I tell them that we really don't need any more babies in this world.


Asshole. That's no reason to be a dick.

Well here's my two cents: you have your feminazis out there-the evil manhating folk who'll ram their beliefs down your throat with the best of them (I, of course, speak of Evengalists and pushy vegetarians), and you have, just...feminists I guess. I don't think anyone should get special privledges. Everyone should be equal. And if a feminist seems really bitchy to you it may be bacause of common stuff in society that many of us see as okay (due to the whole history of mankind) being wrong (in my opinion). There's no reason for them to attack a man for no reason though, obviously they'll lecture him if he's an asshole, but they negate any sort of "equality" if they single out men as pigs.

EDIT: Aww, SGK531 beat me to it. But very well said. I agree completley. I did overlook the many types of feminists as well. You know your stuff.
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#23
It's more that the definition of feminism has changed in the past decades. Feminism used to be a good cause, when women were actually being discriminated against and treated unequally. There are no need for feminist groups now, at least not in America. All they do now is bitch and piss people off.
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I said yes.

Because I'm a male pig. I rape and beat women.


+1

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#25
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I disagree, it depends on the take on it. I think feminism itself actually makes sense. But self-proclaimed "feminists" know nothing of the different types of feminism, the reasonings behind them, and what can be done to promote social equality. They kind of just jump on the "I'M A PROUD FEMALE" boat, and it motors them right along to hypocrisy.

Feminism itself makes sense to me.


If feminists wanted equality I would be for it but it seems that men are walked all over by women, They should have equal rights and everything but as it stands they have more rights in a way.

The Idea of Feminism is ok but the way it is practiced is unfair to men
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EDIT: Aww, SGK531 beat me to it. But very well said. I agree completley. I did overlook the many types of feminists as well. You know your stuff.


Ha, thanks. I like to consider myself one of the "good: feminists.
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Asshole. That's no reason to be a dick.

Well here's my two cents: you have your feminazis out there-the evil manhating folk who'll ram their beliefs down your throat with the best of them (I, of course, speak of Evengalists and pushy vegetarians), and you have, just...feminists I guess. I don't think anyone should get special privledges. Everyone should be equal. And if a feminist seems really bitchy to you it may be bacause of common stuff in society that many of us see as okay (due to the whole history of mankind) being wrong (in my opinion). There's no reason for them to attack a man for no reason though, obviously they'll lecture him if he's an asshole, but they negate any sort of "equality" if they single out men as pigs.

EDIT: Aww, SGK531 beat me to it. But very well said. I agree completley. I did overlook the many types of feminists as well. You know your stuff.

I agree, now for a joke...
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#29
As people say, I hate feminism that basically wants women to be viewed as superior. But feminism, in 1848, was a definite good thing.
#30
They should have equal rights and everything but as it stands they have more rights in a way.


In what way? Do you mean in a legal sense, or socially?

The Idea of Feminism is ok but the way it is practiced is unfair to men


I agree.

I also agree with what SGK531 said. Conclusively, feminism makes sense. Most feminists do not. In the states, things are about as legally equal between men and women as they are going to get. There is the social matter of course, but to be honest I find that the social regard of women as sex objects, etc. is something that the majority of women in some way support. Look at the difference between men's and women's magazines. Men's revolve around men's interests, be they personal satisfaction (GQ, bodybuilding magazines, etc etc)/sex magazines/sports magazines. Women's are all about how to IMPRESS MEN. How to get the perfect body, etc, etc. These are women's interests magazines! And you can't complain about how it is marketed, because regardless, IT SELLS. If the majority of women weren't interested in that, they wouldn't buy it, and if they didn't buy it, there would be other things on the shelves in bookstores.

Socially, I think women's equality will never be taken seriously because whatever stature females end up in, the majority of women promote it and accept it.

And by the by.

Things that are not funny:
Jokes about rape. That is disgusting, and it doesn't make you a male pig. It makes you an extremely insensitive and highly offensive human being.
#32
My view on things is that its become ridiculous. Ive got nothing against women working for equal pay, equal time, have equal rights, but when a girl/woman can hit me as many times as possible and I raise a finger in my defence, im sexist. Ive seen plenty of examples of this.
Then those feminist meanings, its just a bunch of sexist propaganda towards men. This is a world where if I call a girl pretty I could be taken to court for sexual harassment.
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#33
You know the real reason why men make more pay? If there is ever a disaster, a ship sinking or whatnot, who goes into the life rafts first? Women and children. Yeah, you get to go to safety while I have to go down listening to those assholes in the corner playing the solemn symbolic violin.
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#34
Carlos mencia Put it best.

"women don't want to be equals. they want to be paid as equals, but treated like women."
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#36
I think women need to stop, with the feminism stuff. I mean, they expect men to treat them like all the other guys. Which really isnt that great. And they seem offended. ALSO this ladies first bull****, if your equal to me why do YOU GET TO GO FIRST, I WAS HERE BEFORE YOU! If they want to be equal to everyone else, they are going to have to wait like everyone else. If they are going to try and mug me or hit me, im going to react the same way i would when any other guy would try and mug/hit me, and hit you back in the face as hard as I can.

Women if you want equal rights, we will give it to you. You just get no leeway and you WILL BE TREATED LIKE THE REST OF THE GUYS.


That should scare them off........hopefully...
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#37
Well the women have worked their way through. They did not have many rights as men's in the old days, yet men usually would give their seats on subways. Ironically, women demanded equality and more rights, they got them, yet what else they got is men in the present days rarely give seats to women.
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#38
i think that this thread was created for the purpose of bringing out ug's chauvinists and misogynists
#40
Why do people keep complaining about women who want doors opened, ladies first, dinner paid for by men, all that? Am I the only one here who knows women that DON'T want those things done for them?
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