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BarrellShabbot
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I'm looking for the saddest key there is, right now, the saddest is Dm, but what is THE saddest!?
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The saddest key is probably the key to Paris Hilton's house. It is probably terribly sexually abused on drunken slumber fuck night.
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You're right Dm is the saddest key. Nigel said it himself while makeing lick my love pump.
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#5
I really could have sworn I saw this exact same thread like... A year ago. I don't know why it stuck out to me.

Anyway, in terms of Music, all the minor keys are equally as "sad" sounding, just different pitches.

Instead of just key, think of melody, and how each instrument will react to each other. Mixing the right sounds together, even just Voice and Guitar could be infinitely more 'sad' than a key alone.
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did anyone NOT see the spinal tap reference coming?>.< +1 for beating me to it
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um... isn't this in the wrong place? shouldn't it be in like musician talk or somethin?
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#10
F# Locrian, A Dorian, Bm, F#m
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Personally i would say Am. Just play an A minor chord and it makes me what to slit my wrists then bathe them in salt.
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i have to disagree with the A Dorian, but eh, my opinions different. otherwise i completely agree with rpotts post
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lol spinal tap..


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You're right Dm is the saddest key. Nigel said it himself while makeing lick my love pump.

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c# minor FTW
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how come spinal tap never put "lick my love pump" on any of their actual albums? it should have been on the black album

maybe it's because the song actually sounded really good and beautiful, and spinal tap is about MAKING EAR DRUMS BLEED!!! <(another quote)
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#17
Dm.

for me

my favourite happy key is C# Major
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You're right Dm is the saddest key. Nigel said it himself while makeing lick my love pump.

Sorry, guys, i just had to! Spinal Tap owns!

Offtopic:They should realese more music/guitar related movies these days :/
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Someone watched Spinal Tap on telly last night, didn't they?

So did I , what a film
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Am on piano, easiest minor to work with, therefore more stuff can be done to it
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Personally i would say Am. Just play an A minor chord and it makes me what to slit my wrists then bathe them in salt.


*plays Am*


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Am on piano, easiest minor to work with, therefore more stuff can be done to it



....

wait... just...



WTF DUDE?

... sorry it may just be me... but what the HELL...


Just because it's the easiest to work with doesn't mean more can be done with it maybe by you but get a professional pianist there and they can do just as much as you
...

Sorry, I just don't like people saying "I do this, it's easier which means it's better", screw you, you're wrong



/rant

sorry
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Quote by Auals


....

wait... just...



WTF DUDE?

... sorry it may just be me... but what the HELL...


Just because it's the easiest to work with doesn't mean more can be done with it maybe by you but get a professional pianist there and they can do just as much as you
...

Sorry, I just don't like people saying "I do this, it's easier which means it's better", screw you, you're wrong



/rant

sorry


actually more CAN be done with Am on a standard tuned guitar than say, Db minor. A minor leads itself nicely to the open strings and positions of the guitar so he's not wrong there, though i do get what you are trying to say too.
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actually more CAN be done with Am on a standard tuned guitar than say, Db minor. A minor leads itself nicely to the open strings and positions of the guitar so he's not wrong there, though i do get what you are trying to say too.


He Said Piano, Reffering to the fact Am only has 1 sharp compared to other minors.
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Just because it's the easiest to work with doesn't mean more can be done with it maybe by you but get a professional pianist there and they can do just as much as you
...

Sorry, I just don't like people saying "I do this, it's easier which means it's better", screw you, you're wrong

sorry

I think what your trying to say is that a professional piano player could do the same with any minor than just the easiest one.

well, for one, i am not a professional pianist, I have been playing with lessons for 6 years, and reached grade 4 standard, then a further 2 without, so am no way near. That being said, i know my scales, so therefore know all the minors. Now as A minor involves no sharps or flats, it is easier for me to piece together a song in a minor pattern around this key than having to keep thinking more about it. Therefore, I can, by logic do more stuff to it. Do I have to write based on a key of Bb minor because its harder? No, because i can create a better composition based on the scale I am more comfortable with.

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He Said Piano, Reffering to the fact Am only has 1 sharp compared to other minors.


IT HAS NO SHARPS . E minor has one sharp, while d minor has one flat, which you should already know as it is your favourite minor key

All this brings to my point that its easier, so I can do more stuff with it.
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hmmm where to start, well i think trying to understand your argument will be a good point. I think what your trying to say is that a professional piano player could do the same with any minor than just the easiest one.

well, for one, i am not a professional pianist, I have been playing with lessons for 6 years, and reached grade 4 standard, then a further 2 without, so am no way near. That being said, i know my scales, so therefore know all the minors. Now as A minor involves no sharps or flats, it is easier for me to piece together a song in a minor pattern around this key than having to keep thinking more about it. Therefore, I can, by logic do more stuff to it. Do I have to write based on a key of Bb minor because its harder? No, because i can create a better composition based on the scale I am more comfortable with.


and no, it has none, i wonder who taught you how to play. E minor has one sharp, while d minor has one flat, which you should already know as it is your favourite minor key Also, is it only the piano that has a sharp in A minor? im pretty sure its the same on every single instrument, but mind you, i expect you should know.

All this brings to my point that its easier, so I can do more stuff with it. However, being as you are such a professional playing the A minor with a sharp thrown in randomly, im sure you can tell me where im going wrong, so I can learn to use the most complicated key around, thus making it the saddest key ever.

Ok Sorry, but i'm SURE Am has a sharp G# lead up note? with A the tonic? thus it goes A, B, C, D, E, F, G#, A? and Dm, correct, I wasn't thinking correctly, F being the relative minor.

I apologise, but I still stand by the simplicity statement. No minor is any simpler to create music for than any other. I'm more a composer than a player myself, I dabble and let proffesionals play for me but...

Sorry.

EDIT: as for Dm, it has two, Bb and C#. E minor has F# and D#.

Unless I'm really screwed up with my minor scales t, s, t, t, s, t 1/2, s?

and yes, after re-reading. Granted, that it may be easier for you, doesn't mean it's easier in general.

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Ok Sorry, but i'm SURE Am has a sharp G# lead up note? with A the tonic? thus it goes A, B, C, D, E, F, G#, A? and Dm, correct, I wasn't thinking correctly, F being the relative minor.

I apologise, but I still stand by the simplicity statement. No minor is any simpler to create music for than any other. I'm more a composer than a player myself, I dabble and let proffesionals play for me but...

Sorry.


Actually after reading the thread, its my bad. It says saddest key, not favourite key.

So yeah im wrong. But A minor has no sharps in it
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Actually after reading the thread, its my bad. It says saddest key, not favourite key.

So yeah im wrong. But A minor has no sharps in it


I've already Edited my post but

Am has G#, i'd bet just about anything on it

Dm has 2 flats/sharps, Bb and C# (yes written like that as C# is an accidental and therefore allowed to differ otherwise it would result in a scale consisting of 2 D's, a Db and a D)

and Em has 2 as well, F# and D#.

Anyone else agree? Sorry
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Dang got me thinking now.

E major has F# g# and c# and d#. E minor has just f# after lowering 3rd 6th and 7th.
Yours is right too. your doing harmonic minor
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Natural A minor has none. With a harmonic minor you raise the 7th note which is g#. So we are actually both right..... I think/hope.

edit: Yeah am sure were both right, deleted my harsh comments cause were uncalled for.
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Dang got me thinking now.

E major has F# g# and c# and d#. E minor has just f# after lowering 3rd 6th and 7th.
Yours is right too. your doing harmonic minor

hahaha, why would we be doing Melodic Minors? melodic minors sound weird and confusing...
OH I HAVE FIGURED OUT YOUR PROBLEM

you forgot accidentals

and the "natural Am" that you're talking about
is I BELIEVE i don't know these properly yet

but

A Lydian? which is an A scale played in C's key (basically) someone who knows their fullscale guitar theory please. I only know my fourthgrade
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The saddest key is the key I'm going to use to kill you!!!
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#36
There is no saddest key. All minors will sound sad and all majors will sound jolly. It's the way you place the notes on the page and how you relate each one to the next that will make your piece sound like happy birthday, a funeral march or like The Fire Bird.
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#37
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c# minor FTW

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E flat Harmonic Minor? B flat Phrygian Dominant? I like those. A Dorian sounds rather fun than sad. At least that's how I apply it.
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#39
You twits C# isn't the saddest key it's Dm


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You twits C# isn't the saddest key it's Dm




sry Kensai that ones been done to death by now.
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