#1
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When I bought my guitar I went to Guitar Center and spent upwards of about 2,000 dollars on my first guitar and gear. It probably could have been better spent but I was/am a newbie to playing and I didn't really have a very good idea of what I was doing.

On my way to work last week I noticed that there is a small guitar and repair shop that I hadn't ever seen before. I haven't been in there yet but I'm thinking I'll stop by this afternoon on my way home from work.

So here's a couple of questions for you UGers. Who prefer the smaller "Mom & Pop" owned shops to the big franchise stores like Guitar Center and Brook Mays? I imagine you could find more "treasures" at the smaller stores than you could in bigger stores. It's sort of like going to a used car lot as opposed to a brand new Mercedes dealership.

If you prefer shopping at the smaller personally owned stores, what kinds of really great things have you found there that you just couldn't pass up the opportunity to buy?

Edit: This is not a thread for immature morons. If you can't add anything intelligent to the discussion, go away.
Last edited by HollyW07 at Jul 13, 2007,
#2
I shop at a local place called Ostenaks, which is owned by Walt ostenaks, the guy who won 3 grammy's for his polka.
It's a really great guitar shop.
There was a brand new jackson kelly there for 299$
I should've bought it.
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#3
It really depends. Smaller stores might give better service and might be nicer sometimes, but bigger shops generally have more equipment.

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#4
holy **** you spent 2k on your first stuff?! and im the eternal anti-corporationalist, so im all for locally owned places (its where i bought my first setup). i haven't found anything i just couldn't pass up, but im a pretty controlled consumer.

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Each time I buy something at my local (and crappy) guitar (and other stupid crap) store, I always exit the shop saying "Yeah, I just bought stolen stuff!".
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#6
2k on your first stuff? Bloody hell, my brother gave me a 2nd hand beginner set worth about 20 quid.

I like to look around little stores rather than big ones all over the country, such as antique stores or 2nd hand book stores. I probably wouldnt buy a guitar from one though.
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#7
i definately prefer small stores.


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My "mom and pop" store is quite a successful one so it has a lot of equipment and too many guitars I'm talking 5 rooms of stuff. I found my 99' junior their for just $150 and the guitar is just grand to play. And the people there are really nice.
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2k on your first stuff? Bloody hell, my brother gave me a 2nd hand beginner set worth about 20 quid.

I like to look around little stores rather than big ones all over the country, such as antique stores or 2nd hand book stores. I probably wouldnt buy a guitar from one though.



I worked for my grandmother for 2 years and she owned a new and used book store, so I know first hand what it's like in the privately owned stores as opposed to Barnes & Noble or Books-A-Million. I prefer shopping in smaller stores but they're harder and harder to find anymore because the big guys are pushing them out of business.
#10
Mom & Pop stores for sure. The people that work there are usually more nice and know more about what they're selling, plus they are most likely cheaper in order to compete with the other big businesses.
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u shud try and find a small shop with good quality stuff, rather than big shops with more quantity than quality
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$2000 is way too much to spend on starter gear (my first guitar was $60), but yes, that 2K would be better spent at a local store.
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u shud try and find a small shop with good quality stuff, rather than big shops with more quantity than quality


Just because a store has less doesn't mean it isn't as good. More likely, a large shop will probably have all the best guitars from the most popular brands.

A "mom and pop" store near me is great, really nice helpful guys working there, but they only have low end Ibanez and ESP guitars.
#14
im just sayin usually, not all shops r the same, for example a local shop can order most guitars
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#15
bigger shops will normally have more things, but a lot of smaller shops are willing to give you a good deal on something.
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$2000 is way too much to spend on starter gear (my first guitar was $60), but yes, that 2K would be better spent at a local store.



Well I wasn't intending to spend nearly that might. I went in thinking I had a budget of about 500. My grandmother went with me and she was the one buying everything because it was my birthday present. (yes, she spoils me but if you knew my brother, you'd understand) When the salesman played the Epi LP and then played the Gibson LP Studio my grandmother was the one who pushed for the Gibson. There's the price difference right there. She was like "do you have this?" "do you need one of these?" and when we left, she said she had alot of fun.

I also asked her like, a million times if she was okay with spending that kind of money and she said yes.

Anyway, it probably would have been better spent at a local store but I went to GC because at the time, it was the only place I really knew of and knew where it was. In the future though I'll probably find a really good local store.
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bloody hell 2 grand, thts alot of money, cud get a whole lot of awesome stuff with tht soooooooo much porn.....


sorry but yh u cud of got a awesome amp and awesome guitar with a really good pedal for that much
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Small independents are the life blood of local musicians. They often allow you to purchase used equipment on a trial basis. If it doesn't work for your purposes, you just bring it back in a day or two. They're also a social gathering point for us. It's easy to walk into a conversation between musicians you've never met, and hear about a group that has just started gigging or an upcoming event. Often someone mentions a member of their band who is someone you knew or even someone you've worked with in a previous band. We're all sort of interconnected that way.

It's kinda like going to a family reunion and meeting members of your family you didn't even know were related!

I buy whatever I can from the local stores.
It costs a little more. But the "extras" are Priceless.
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. I prefer shopping in smaller stores but they're harder and harder to find anymore because the big guys are pushing them out of business.

the exact reason i steal an assload from walmart
#20
I used to love my local guitar store, the employees were nice, the prices were good, and it was a fun place to hang out. Then it went out of business, leaving the jerk-infested, high-priced "Hey you can't play any guitar here!" guitar shop.... which really sucks, I wouldn't have mined paying more money too buy locally, but now I can go to guitar center, where the guys are nice, and I can play anything I want.
#21
You had $2,000 to spend on your first guitar? That's ridiculous.
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#22
Lol. A Gibson LP was your first guitar?

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#23
Yes, a Gibson LP is my first guitar. I just got it three weeks ago. I wasn't intending to get a Gibson but when my grandma makes her mind up about something, you can't persuade her otherwise.
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Anyway, it probably would have been better spent at a local store but I went to GC because at the time, it was the only place I really knew of and knew where it was. In the future though I'll probably find a really good local store.
It's very much like the local hardware store -vs- the big home centres. You probably saved quite a bit of money on that one purchase, so I don't begrudge you that. However I think it silly to save a dollar on a $10 purchase and miss out on supporting your "family". Besides, when you make friends with the owner after making several small purchases, they're willing to deal on big stuff and are competitive with the chains stores. You'll still pay a few bucks more, but who would you rather see profit?
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I prefer my local "mom & pop" store because of the services that they provide over and above their corporate competition, and their greater general knowledge regarding what they're selling.
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It really depends. Smaller stores might give better service and might be nicer sometimes, but bigger shops generally have more equipment.

I suggest rubbing icyhot on it.


HAHA +1
#28
Mom and Pop anything > franchise.
Would much rather deal with someone that has a genuine interest in seeing me come back than a 17yo kid thats only thinking about what time they get off. And the place I go has more shit than any guitar center you'll ever see.
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#29
I like to give money to the local stores, as opposed to the corporate giant$.
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What amp did you get?



At the time I didn't know anything at all about amps. I was more concerned with the guitar (which I now know is a foolish thing to do) so I got the amp that the salesman suggested, which was a Line 6. It works fine for what I use it for, (practice and learning) but I do realize I could have gotten something much better for the money I spent on it.


And yes, I'd rather give the smaller store the business and pay a little more. "Looking out for the underdog," as my grandmother says.
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At the time I didn't know anything at all about amps. I was more concerned with the guitar (which I now know is a foolish thing to do) so I got the amp that the salesman suggested, which was a Line 6. It works fine for what I use it for, (practice and learning) but I do realize I could have gotten something much better for the money I spent on it.


And yes, I'd rather give the smaller store the business and pay a little more. "Looking out for the underdog," as my grandmother says.



Thats fine. Line 6 amps are good to learn on, and you can check out the effects to get an idea for ones you like, and later on you can get real effects from pedals.
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Yes, a Gibson LP is my first guitar. I just got it three weeks ago. I wasn't intending to get a Gibson but when my grandma makes her mind up about something, you can't persuade her otherwise.


You better prove that you deserve it, then. I expect nothing less than 8 hours per-day solid practice.
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#33
I don't like guitar center. It's fun to go in and play stuff, because the workers there don't care if you pull a $100 guitar off the stand, plug it into a $1000 amp and play it for 45 minutes straight...but because they let peopel do this, the guitars/equipment in their store are much more likely to be damaged, etc. Plus they don't service what they sell.

Smaller stores are better. They're less intimidating and a lot of the time have just as good merchandise as the bigger chains, just not as much of it.
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You better prove that you deserve it, then. I expect nothing less than 8 hours per-day solid practice.



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I do try to practice 2-3 hours a day. I can't do 8 hours except on the weekends because I work a 40 hour week, 9-5.
#36
Depends on the shop really. Smaller shops are better organised than the big ones. But the stuff they seel isn't much different I don't think. I dunno lol
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