#1
well im gettin an ibanez rg321 and i need a new amp

im into metal and distortion majorly but also like the joe satriani sound if u get me,

well my price limit is £200 maximum so about $410, im lookin to buy from an UK store so i dont get hugely charged on shipping etc

i do home practise but hope to startin a band so an amp for both wud be gd

thanks for reading this
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#5
whats the difference between tube and modelling?
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whats the difference between tube and modelling?
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how bout an marshall mg50, or the microstack?
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i would get two separate amps for practise and gigging..


alternatively, use the volume knob.

TS, at this stage in your playing I think you'd benefit from the tonal variation a modelling amp has. In essence they simulate the characteristics of a number of more expensive amps. That will allow you to discover the kind of sounds you like best and, in future, you'll have a much better idea of what to spend your money on should you decide to upgrade. You also get some onboard effects to play with which are an added bonus for a beginner.

I'd be inclined to recommend the Vox as I personally feel it's a little more versatile.

how bout an marshall mg50, or the microstack?

no, because they're crap
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NO

dont even bother with an MG.

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#10
That Laney looks like a good amp and a decent price.
Tube amps use vacuum tube (valves) for their preamp and power sections. These sound much better than solid state in general, especially when played at moderate or high volume.
Solid state amps use transistors. The higher priced ones generally sound pretty good. Most do not sound very good when cranked past 3 or so.
Modeling amps use transistors and IC (integrated circuit chips.) The modeling amp is designed to produce effects (phaser, autowah, chorus, etc.) and also presets that digitally simulate the sound of several different amps. These effects generally sound flat and sterile (with a few exceptions on the higher-priced end.) The amp simulations are disappointing compared to the sound of the original amp.
The only exception I have found on the lower end is the Roland Cube series.
These are my opinions based on years of experience but you need to try several amps before you buy. There are some that would disagree and may have very good reasons.
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#11
the link for ibanez didnt come up and listed an left handed guitar :S
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This is almost exactly the same as what I asked a few days ago.

If you are going to get the Laney, I recommnd you go for the LC-15R instead of the normal 15. An extra £20 gets you reverb, an FX Loop and an external speaker socket, so you can effectively use it as a 15 watt all-valve head for a half-stack or a full-stack, ideal if you ever get to the point of gigging with the band you're thinking of starting (although you do not need a half/full-stack for gigs, they can just rig you up on the PA)
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#13
im thinkin of the voxx, to me it sounds likke it has more punch than the laney
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This is almost exactly the same as what I asked a few days ago.

If you are going to get the Laney, I recommnd you go for the LC-15R instead of the normal 15. An extra £20 gets you reverb, an FX Loop and an external speaker socket, so you can effectively use it as a 15 watt all-valve head for a half-stack or a full-stack, ideal if you ever get to the point of gigging with the band you're thinking of starting (although you do not need a half/full-stack for gigs, they can just rig you up on the PA)


Yeah, I second that.

OK, I cannot stress this enough...GET THE LANEY

You'll be able to gig with it too without much concern. If you can push your budget to a LC-30 then do that.
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the link for ibanez didnt come up and listed an left handed guitar :S


Fixed

it was supposed to be a cube!

The Laney has more punch than any of them, but I honestly reckon the Vox would be a better bet. The Laney does one thing very well, the Vox does lots of things pretty well...at this stage in your playing when you're still discovering your tone and learning about amps a modeller is a good choice.
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how about the spider line 6 III 75 is tht gd compared to the voxx?
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^not exactly. It will sound really harsh and sterile compared to it
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how about the spider line 6 III 75 is tht gd compared to the voxx?

do some searches man!! the spider is bullcrap
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how about the spider line 6 III 75 is tht gd compared to the voxx?

It's a bag of wank
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alternatively, use the volume knob.

TS, at this stage in your playing I think you'd benefit from the tonal variation a modelling amp has. In essence they simulate the characteristics of a number of more expensive amps. That will allow you to discover the kind of sounds you like best and, in future, you'll have a much better idea of what to spend your money on should you decide to upgrade. You also get some onboard effects to play with which are an added bonus for a beginner.

I'd be inclined to recommend the Vox as I personally feel it's a little more versatile.


no, because they're crap

dude, do you like to lug around with a heavy amp everytime if you go to practise ? i don't.
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dude, do you like to lug around with a heavy amp everytime if you go to practise ? i don't
Yes I do, don't you?

Fact of the matter is £200 is barely enough to buy one amp, let alone two...given the choice of a gigging amp I could turn down and a practice amp that I can't make any louder I know which one I'd take.
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That Laney looks like a good amp and a decent price.
Tube amps use vacuum tube (valves) for their preamp and power sections. These sound much better than solid state in general, especially when played at moderate or high volume.
Solid state amps use transistors. The higher priced ones generally sound pretty good. Most do not sound very good when cranked past 3 or so.
Modeling amps use transistors and IC (integrated circuit chips.) The modeling amp is designed to produce effects (phaser, autowah, chorus, etc.) and also presets that digitally simulate the sound of several different amps. These effects generally sound flat and sterile (with a few exceptions on the higher-priced end.) The amp simulations are disappointing compared to the sound of the original amp.
The only exception I have found on the lower end is the Roland Cube series.
These are my opinions based on years of experience but you need to try several amps before you buy. There are some that would disagree and may have very good reasons.

and what about the vox valvetronix ??
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Yes I do, don't you?

Fact of the matter is £200 is barely enough to buy one amp, let alone two...given the choice of a gigging amp I could turn down and a practice amp that I can't make any louder I know which one I'd take.

to you and TS too : it's better if he gets a vox ad15vt for practise (or a second hand ad30vt, cause it has a built-in attenuator) and a (second hand) ad50vt for gigging.
et voila, two decent amps for £200
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#24
I tend to not like modeling amps. Hybrid amps at the lower price range are not much better. The Vox wouldn't be horrible but there are better for the money. If you crank one it probably won't sound any better than a solid-state.
#25
the vox and cube are both modeling amps too you know. and if you crank a cube it sounds pretty bad too.
i don't get what you're saying.
and you're saying there are better for the money; which ??
#26
to you and TS too : it's better if he gets a vox ad15vt for practise (or a second hand ad30vt, cause it has a built-in attenuator) and a (second hand) ad50vt for gigging.

Why would you want to get 2 versions of the same amp? That's daft...and it's not like the AD50 is exactly back-breaking, and there's maybe 15% volume difference between the two. You'd buy one or the other, but not both. It's fair enough if your talking Cube 20 vs JCM800 stack...but to be honest I wouldn't class any of the cubes or valvetonix as gigging amps, however the larger ones could do the job if needed.
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i'd get two amps (even of the same sort) so i can leave on at practise and one at my room.
and my friend gigs with an ad50vt without a problem and he doesn't mic it.
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i'd get two amps (even of the same sort) so i can leave on at practise and one at my room.
and my friend gigs with an ad50vt without a problem and he doesn't mic it.

In reality though most people wouldn't - they buy one amp. It's all well and good being Johnny Two-Amps if you can afford it but in most cases it's financially impractical. The TS wants an amp, suggesting he buy two isn't really being particularly helpful...if he happens to find a used amp then I'm sure he can find better things to do with the money he saves.
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In reality though most people wouldn't - they buy one amp. It's all well and good being Johnny Two-Amps if you can afford it but in most cases it's financially impractical. The TS wants an amp, suggesting he buy two isn't really being particularly helpful...if he happens to find a used amp then I'm sure he can find better things to do with the money he saves.

agreed. getting two amps now would be an asinine thing to do with the money
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Unless you are too lazy to move them or you buy different amps for different sounds. I can identify with lazy. If you don't have the money it might not be the thing to do.
I think the Roland Cube is a better sounding amp but the Valvetronix is not too bad. I may just come down to personal preference. I wouldn't be ashamed of the Vox either (though neither for gigging, ok for practice.)
If I was the buyer I would buy neither one. I like Peavey Transtube.
#31
If you're trying to get satch's tone, for only about 40 or 50 more euros you can the 5 watt version of his signature amp (single channel, tremelo). It's nice! Or you could get a fender blues junior and a good distortion pedal.
#33
so right preferabbly i need to try out a few, wht ones shud i try out?

ur sayin the vox which was earlier mentioned, vox valvetronix, and the peavey and lavey?
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#34
£200 isn't $410, it's more like $390, or $387.
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i used the xe converter so o well
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