#1
So, how good are they? I mean theyre chep and i dont trust them cuz a FR trem system costs 150 dollars
And that Whole speedloader system? can You de tune with that?
ONLY THE FIRST THREE GUITARS
Some some help would be great
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The tremolo is probably at least okay on them, but the guitars themselves probably suck, however I have never played on of them.
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A few weeks ago they were $300. I like them, better snatch them up while you can.
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A few weeks ago they were $300. I like them, better snatch them up while you can.

But Can U de tune them. Thats what i want to know
Well now that sucks. The black HH one is 419 DOLLARS!!!!!!!
God they make the good colors expensive
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I don't think so. There aren't many speed loader type guitars than can detune, if any.
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do they have predrop strings? or something
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They have different gauges, that may detune the guitar by all strings though.

If you want to detune frequently, you aren't looking for a speedloader.
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Sigh, cuz it is soo cheap and i wanted a guitar that i could drop to like drop C# and play metal with it cuz it has a Floyd Rose and i LOVE whammy bar solos
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If you're only going to use the whammy bar for solos, like single notes and stuff, it might be worth it for you to cheack out a digitech whammy pedal. It doesn't sound exactly like one, but you can get some pretty crazy sounds with it.
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whammy bar solos are for people who cant play solos.


Vai's got a few whammy bar solos under his belt. So does Satch and Van Halen.

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#13
Well at least use it or like small whammy stuff kinda like what eddy does in eruption or use it for WHAMMY HARMONICS, which blow my mind by there high piched squekyness
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I have a floyd rose redmond model 4 - it's the USA built floyd rose guitar that the discovery series is modelled on.

The redmonds are fantastic guitars, excellent build quality, great hardware, the neck is a dream to play on, and they sound great - mine is high output humbuckers but they are very clear and clean up very well. The speedloader is produced in germany like all other OFR's and is as they say rock stable for tuning.

My only problem has been that finding strings at a reasonable price in the UK is a nightmare - thankfully Thomann sells them for about £5 a set, but it has forced me to get a credit card and buy in bulk, something I can't do at the moment so the guitar isn't being played at the moment...


The discovery series is made in Korea, but according to Floyd himself it's still high quality. I've not played or seen any guitars so I'm not sure what this means, but the price tag is great. I believe the speedloader on those is in fact built in korea, but it's not licensed, it's still by floyd rose, so should be of a high enough quality.

Any other floyd rose guitar at $150 will have some crappy floyd rose copy that has soft metal, so I reckon even if you plan to replace the pickups these guitars will still be very worthwhile.


If you want tuning stability then a speedloader is the way to go. If you want to change tunings regularly then you can't do it without having to re-set everything. They are easier to set up than a standard floyd rose, but it still takes time, if you are just gonna keep it in drop C then that's fine. Otherwise you're better off with a hard tail.
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Oh and in terms of strings and tuning:

Floyd and Dean Markely make strings in a variety of guages, standard and hybrid, so you have a good choice of what to use.

When you put the strings on you lock off the tremelo with a bit inside the spring bit, so the guitar is set for dive bombs only and the trem doesn't float, and set it so that the trem is at the desired height. You put the fine tuners in the middle, then adjust the tuner rangefinder bits so the strings are in the desired tuning. You can also intonate then, but that's a bit of an arse to do... Then when in tune refloat and tighten the springs on the back until the strings are back in tune - it's actually quite a simple process, and providing you stick to the same guage of strings you shouldn't have to do this every string change.

To fine tune there are the fine tuners like on a standard floyd rose.
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whammy bar solos are for people who cant play solos.


I gotta disagree with that :/

It's like people who say Drop tunings are for people who can't play..
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what?

what did you just say?

^^no. drop tuning is used for a darker or heavier sound. i just dont like when all people do is wank on the whammy. thats what i mean. i like it when people accentuate a harmonic, or a note to make it sound really cool, but when its just pumping the bar up and down? no. that doesnt really take any skill.
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^^ I didn't want to say it first but that's pretty much blasphemy, EVH is a legend, so what if he is a bit of an alcy and is endorsing everything he can nowadays, he has the right to. He can play, and he writes great songs. Not everyone gets the whole 'feel good' van halen pop thing, but it's still good music. I think 1984 demonstrates that very well - Jump, Panama and Hot For Teacher, all great songs.
#24
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what?

what did you just say?

^^no. drop tuning is used for a darker or heavier sound. i just dont like when all people do is wank on the whammy. thats what i mean. i like it when people accentuate a harmonic, or a note to make it sound really cool, but when its just pumping the bar up and down? no. that doesnt really take any skill.


Oh God then yeah I agree..

Whammy harmonics = Very cool.

Random whammy bar raping - Not cool.

Loooooong-ass divebombs = Absolutely ****ing awesome. (After the solo on Anthem - Trivium)

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Oh God then yeah I agree..

Whammy harmonics = Very cool.

Random whammy bar raping - Not cool.

Loooooong-ass divebombs = Absolutely ****ing awesome. (After the solo on Anthem - Trivium)


#26
Vai wanks on it all day, and uses it as a picking technique. I think it's cool though, adds an extreme vibrato type thing.
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#27
I use my floyd to vibrato chords, and give accents to notes. A few random squeels here and there, maybe a divebomb or the dirtbike thing, possibly the elephant noise, but nothing more than that.

You gotta be able to play without a trem to deserve to play with one.
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