#1
I'm after a new amp and it seems I have more money in my bank account than I thought.. I currently have a spider II 30w and its distortion and clean don't do anything for me and my EMG's

I've found a Hughes and Kettner Zen Amp quite cheap and was wondering if it would do the job and if its any good?

I can't seem to find any info on the amps, even on the official site, anyone know where I can find some info?

David

Edit: through looking around it seems it must be a "Hughes & Kettner ZenAmp 212 Combo"
My gear
ESP Horizon II FR (Seymour's with coil tap)
ESP LTD Ex400
Wesley Explorer/Dominator

Ashdown Fallen Angel 40w DSP

BOSS DS-2 Turbo distortion
BOSS AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
BOSS GE-7 Equalizer
Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9
Last edited by David_VI at Jul 21, 2007,
#2
I've never heard of this amp, but the company has a good reputatoin.

If you give us info like your price range, and what type of music you play, we can recommend some other amps that you can check out.

It is good to see that you are upgrading from your spider, though.
Guitar:
Epiphone Les Paul Standard
Amplifier:
Fender Blues Junior - Eminence Red, White and Blues
Effects:
Fulltone OCD
Electro-Harmonix Nano Small Stone
Ibanez DE-7 Delay/Echo
Dunlop Crybaby
Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi
#3
Okay.

Power metal (Trying, not fast enough yet).
Heavy metal, General rock tones..

Nice cleans..
Use an ESP ex400 with EMG's.

I don't know how much to spend, but i'd guess under 400quid maybe. It might not even be worth buying a new amp, i've been on and off about buying an amp for the past few months.. wanting a Cube 30x.

The thread with info on good amps for prices kinda points this amp out to me..
http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/productAshdownFallenAngel40DSP-169-165.html
Ashdown fallen angel? Mm?
My gear
ESP Horizon II FR (Seymour's with coil tap)
ESP LTD Ex400
Wesley Explorer/Dominator

Ashdown Fallen Angel 40w DSP

BOSS DS-2 Turbo distortion
BOSS AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
BOSS GE-7 Equalizer
Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9
Last edited by David_VI at Jul 21, 2007,
#4
Well that is a great price range, and you can do a lot better than a Cube 30x, even though it is a very decent amp. When you get into higher prices like this, I suggest looking at all tube amps. It makes such a difference in your tone, and it will make those EMGs sing like you never thought possible!

If you are willing to go used, you could get a REALLY nice amp, like a Peavey 5150 (not the best cleans though), or Mesa/Boogie Nomad or F-series through ebay.

If not, look around for the ALL TUBE version of an Ashdown fallen angel, a lot of people swear by them on these forums. Or a lot of other tube amps, I'm drawing a bad blank right now, but with many you will just need a decent Overdrive pedal and it can get into those tones.
Guitar:
Epiphone Les Paul Standard
Amplifier:
Fender Blues Junior - Eminence Red, White and Blues
Effects:
Fulltone OCD
Electro-Harmonix Nano Small Stone
Ibanez DE-7 Delay/Echo
Dunlop Crybaby
Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi
#5
Ive got an okay distortion pedal.
You think I should go for the Ashdown?
My first tube, will really shine above the Spider right?
My gear
ESP Horizon II FR (Seymour's with coil tap)
ESP LTD Ex400
Wesley Explorer/Dominator

Ashdown Fallen Angel 40w DSP

BOSS DS-2 Turbo distortion
BOSS AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
BOSS GE-7 Equalizer
Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9
#6
I've heard a lot of really good things about the ashdown, and they have discontinued the fallen angel model with all tube. I think now they have a hybrid model with purple on the sides, don't go with that. Of course, don't walk in there ready to buy it either, try it out next to as many other amps as you can.

I didn't really believe the "tube vs. solid state" a lot, until I got my blues junior. It is such a difference at the start, it makes you fall in love, and never want to go back. I mean, even my Les Paul with stock pups sounds amazing on my amp, so those EMGs will most likely sound like what you've always wanted them to sound like.

I'm sure someone else will come in here with advice too, I don't know where everyone is.
Guitar:
Epiphone Les Paul Standard
Amplifier:
Fender Blues Junior - Eminence Red, White and Blues
Effects:
Fulltone OCD
Electro-Harmonix Nano Small Stone
Ibanez DE-7 Delay/Echo
Dunlop Crybaby
Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi
#7
Well I seem to have found A Fallen Angel and it doesn't seem to have purple on the sides...

I'll go with this if its one of the originals..

Features Include

* Instrument Input: Impedance 1M Ohm, Level 100mV to 1V
* Effects Return: Impedance 50k Ohms, Level 0dBu adjustable
* Effects Send: Impedance 4.7k Ohms, Level Nominal 0dBu
* Speaker Emulated Line Output: Impedance 4.7k Ohms, Level Nominal 0dBu
* Treble, Middle, Bass: Traditional passive, interactive tone control network providing classic guitar tonal adjustment
* Pre-amp Tubes: 4 x 12AX7 with DC heaters for low noise
* Output Tubes: 4 x EL84 fixed bias
* Output Power: 40 Watts RMS into 4, 8 or 16 Ohms
* Includes footswitch

Sound right?
My gear
ESP Horizon II FR (Seymour's with coil tap)
ESP LTD Ex400
Wesley Explorer/Dominator

Ashdown Fallen Angel 40w DSP

BOSS DS-2 Turbo distortion
BOSS AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
BOSS GE-7 Equalizer
Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9
#8
That is the one that I've heard so much about, comes with a footswitch, and the preamp and output tubes are what you want to look at. That seems right, same amount of preamp tubes as my Blues Junior, with 2 more output tubes. So that should give it some more crunch, for metal.

Oh yeah, here is what to look out for what not to get.
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/flypage/product_id/14400

The 40 watts will sound much better and louder, because tube wattage is much louder than hybrid/solid state wattage.

Also, make sure to try before you buy, just in case it is nothing like what you want.

EDIT: I found this on youtube. The 60 watt version. See if you like the sound, http://youtube.com/watch?v=S9bGMPshlXk
Guitar:
Epiphone Les Paul Standard
Amplifier:
Fender Blues Junior - Eminence Red, White and Blues
Effects:
Fulltone OCD
Electro-Harmonix Nano Small Stone
Ibanez DE-7 Delay/Echo
Dunlop Crybaby
Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi
#9
Awesome, seems great compared to my Spider, that wouldnt be my choice tone but I bet i could get a lot of good tones from it with some EQ fiddling.. right?

I think i'm going to order it, if its actually in stock..
My gear
ESP Horizon II FR (Seymour's with coil tap)
ESP LTD Ex400
Wesley Explorer/Dominator

Ashdown Fallen Angel 40w DSP

BOSS DS-2 Turbo distortion
BOSS AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
BOSS GE-7 Equalizer
Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9
#10
Thanks for the help btw, extremely helpful!
My gear
ESP Horizon II FR (Seymour's with coil tap)
ESP LTD Ex400
Wesley Explorer/Dominator

Ashdown Fallen Angel 40w DSP

BOSS DS-2 Turbo distortion
BOSS AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
BOSS GE-7 Equalizer
Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9
#11
Glad I could help. It will do your sound a lot of good.

Yeah, you should be able to get a lot of tones with the EQ.
Guitar:
Epiphone Les Paul Standard
Amplifier:
Fender Blues Junior - Eminence Red, White and Blues
Effects:
Fulltone OCD
Electro-Harmonix Nano Small Stone
Ibanez DE-7 Delay/Echo
Dunlop Crybaby
Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi
#12
Hmm confusing.
http://www.rockingrooster.co.uk/productAshdownFallenAngel40DSP-169-165.html
http://www.pmtonline.co.uk/search.asp?oid=1287

The fronts look different... Without that little round display thingmejig.
My gear
ESP Horizon II FR (Seymour's with coil tap)
ESP LTD Ex400
Wesley Explorer/Dominator

Ashdown Fallen Angel 40w DSP

BOSS DS-2 Turbo distortion
BOSS AC-3 Acoustic Simulator
BOSS GE-7 Equalizer
Ibanez Tube Screamer TS9