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#1
Hey guys. I'm facing an amp situation. I was wonderin if u guys could help me make a decision on whether I should buy a Marshall MG100DFX or Marshall MG250DFX amplifier. I mean, they both have 100W of power, but maybe u guys could help me out. Or should I just go with a Marshall Half Stack w/ the MG100DFX Head. What do u guys think??
#2
what everybody else will tell you hear, buy a decent tube amp for the price. My friend had a Marshall MG100DFX, and it was no good. Really, you couldnt get a good sound out of it. A 30w-40w tube is about all the sound you ever need..maybe theres some cases you MIGHT need more, but probably not. A 30-40w tube un-mic'ed would be as loud or louder than the marshalls you're looking at can get.
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#4
prepare to be faced with an onslaught of comments such as "dear god nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" and "get a tube combo instead" but trust me, listen to them

edit: see? 2 of them in the small time it took me to type this out lol
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#5
As a guitar player who genuinely cares about my fellow musicians: Get a tube amp. DO NOT BUY MG'S. Check the forum's search function to find out why.
#6
yeah, people are going to be very mad at you for even thinking of buying that thing!

seriously, it might look okay because it's a stack. who doesn't like a stack? but the sound quality is very poor. and a 30 watt tube combo might be just as loud and sound WAAAAY better
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get a tube combo for that money. the MG's are really just wasting your money


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#8
This conceptuial diagram best illustrates your current dilemma...

They're both crap.

Solution? Buy something good instead...how much you got to spend and what kind of music do you play?
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#9
Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

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#10
Quote by patriotplayer90
Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"

Sounds thin, even with the delay. And he never really pushes it in the way that you would need to in order to tell the difference- like some good fast swing jazz where the notes aren't all the same volume.
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#11
the MG is a beginners amp that isnt going to get you the sound you want. you may think it sounds good now, but in a few weeks or months you will be sick of it. if you give a price range and a style of music you play people can help you make a much better choice.


and at Mark's diagram
#12
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Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"

Yeah, don't listen to these people who've been playing the guitar LONGER THAN YOU'VE BEEN ALIVE....they don't know crap.
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#13
OMG TOTALLY BUY AN MG! THEY'RE AMAZING.

Just use the search button to find out just how amazing from all the happy owners.

Sheesh.
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"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"


No it's not, but if you're going to make the argument, at least choose some GOOD SS or digital gear to compare.

Please, if you don't believe the many on this forum (and the many many more that have posted bad reviews about this amp elsewhere on the intarweb) then try it for yourself. If you really like it, then buy it by all means. But please, do this one test...just grab one of the knobs and wiggle it a little. Feel how flimsy that is? Keep in mind the entire amp is made to those same standards.

And really, this is a long dead horse. We're not even beating on the entrails anymore, this is just a red stain on the desert floor. This thread should be closed.
#15
Meh, cancer v louder cancer.
Neither, there are plenty of better options, I owned an MG, I can honestly say it doesn't even compare to a true valve amp. And mines a pretty mid-budget valve amp at that.
You could get a great amp in the same price range with enough volume to bring your neighborhood down.
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Quote by patriotplayer90
Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"

yeah but he'd make anything sound good because of his playing. But obviously him playing threw a better amp IE the DSL videos he's done, his tone sounds much better.
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yeah but he'd make anything sound good because of his playing. But obviously him playing threw a better amp IE the DSL videos he's done, his tone sounds much better.


Yeah, he's getting an OK tone through that MG because he seems to be an alright guitarist and he won't be playing it that loud.

MG's are overpriced and you could get an entry level valve for the same price. Iknow what I'd choose.
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#18
do you guys ever wonder if these people ask you whether or not they should buy an MG just to get this kind of reaction?
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yeah but he'd make anything sound good because of his playing. But obviously him playing threw a better amp IE the DSL videos he's done, his tone sounds much better.


Well I overreacted, but my point is that the MG is not the best sounding amp out there, but I have played it myself and thought it sounded great. You could probably get a pignose tube amp or something else for around the same price, but it wouldnt be the same as owning a marshall.
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do you guys ever wonder if these people ask you whether or not they should buy an MG just to get this kind of reaction?


Yeah man, I do get that feeling alot of the time >.<
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#21
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Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"


like peanut butter but without the smell?


you dont even know the difference between the two amps? ill give u a clue, the answer is in their names.

my tube amp cost about the same as the piece of garbage MG i bought when i was first starting out. so shhh.

TS, what's ur budget and music style?
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#22
There's no point owning a marshall that doesn't perform like a Marshall. If Ferrari made a 1 litre hatchback you wouldn't buy it, you'd be disgusted at such a cynical marketing ploy tarnishing the reputation of a great brand - this is the same.
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Quote by patriotplayer90
Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"


Did you record it yourself? I've proffesionally recorded MGs, they sound horrible and take a lot to make them sound half decent.
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#24
My music style is hard rock. My price range is like $400-$600. So it seems most of u guys r sayin 2 forget the MG series and go 4 a tube amp. IDK if I want a tube amp tho. I kind of like the solid state amps, cause thats what I have rite now. I appreciate ur guys feedback tho.
#25
it's fine if you actually prefer solid state sounds , imean it's basically all down to opinion. the only problem is that for a solid state that actual sound sreally good, you need pay as much as you would for a good tube amp too. in you're price range the only decent SS amp i can really think of is the roland cube (might be able to get a 60w version for under $400 i don't know what they cost in the US) or a cheap hybrid amp like the vox ad series, or for metal the ad XL series (it can manage rock as well)
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#26
Quote by patriotplayer90
Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"

You actually rate gear by soundclips of which you don't know what pedals/extra EQing he's using?

you phail, MG's blow get over it
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#27
I'd go with a Peavey Classic 30 or Crate V32 Palomino. Both are tube amps, but like someone above said, there aren't any SS amps in your price range that compare to the tube amps in terms of tone or loudness (tube amps are much louder and sound much better louder).

If you're set on a SS amp I'd go with the Roland Cube or Vox Valvetronix, but I think you'll be much happier with a tube amp.
#28
Quote by patriotplayer90
Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"


Except that he's probably running it through an entire professional pedal board. I have an MG and it sounds nothing like that.
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#29
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This conceptuial diagram best illustrates your current dilemma...

They're both crap.

Solution? Buy something good instead...how much you got to spend and what kind of music do you play?




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#31
Quote by patriotplayer90
Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"

you sir, have horrible taste in tone.
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#32
good SS = line6 vetta, but thats way out of your price range so try some tube amps
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#33
MG100DFX is equal to having your d*ck cut off, being forced to eat it, **** it out and eat that, choke on it, while your being raped by a prison and having your fingers pulled off your hands.

MG250DFX is equal to having your d*ck cut off, being forced to eat it, **** it out and eat that, choke on it, while your being raped by a prison and having your fingers pulled off your hands.

What stuff do you play?
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#35
Ok, thx 4 ur guys opinions. I'm gonna start lookin in2 the tube amps now. Any suggestions?
#36
I like 2 play rock/hard rock, so yea. Any opinions on good tube amps r very welcomed and appreciated.
#37
Quote by patriotplayer90
Dont listen to these people. I don't know the difference between the two, but I recorded with a MG half stack and it sounded great, very crunchy. Just watch this video of a guy who actually knows how to play a guitar testing the MG100DFX. Sounds better than any of the $3000 10 watt tube amps any of these people bought"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMuJe4VIaE

"buu buu buuutt teh toob is bettah!!"

i'm not arguing about tube v SS crap, but thats exactly whats wrong with MGs, they sound okay when you're listening to someone using one, but play through it it sounds terrible to your ears because there are no dynamics whatsoever, fret noise is the same volume as the notes etc, you will not be satisfied with your tone through an MG. also, you can get decent 30 watt tube amps which are perfectly loud enough (tube amps will appear a lot louder than a solid state of the same wattage) for around £300 (epiphone for example). If a 10 watt tube amp cost $3000 (why do people who are noobing against tube amps always shout "$3000" anyway?), there's probably gonna be a good reason... but i've never seen one THAT expensive, go to your room!
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#38
If your in the UK lok into the Laneys VC30, LC30II, TT50, also Crate Palomino, Peavey Classic, Traynor YCV, Fender Blues Jr., Randall RG50TC, eBay is a good option.
#39
i have an mg and its crap i cant wait to get rid of it with overdrive on its **** and when its on clean its ****
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#40
Well for what you play threadstarter a Peavey Windsor is a great choice!
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