#1
So, long before I joined UG, I bought one of those really crappy Marshall MG's. To be specific, its the MG15CDR. Anyways, I run overdrive through a distortion pedal. My main question here, is about the amp setup to at least get it to sound decent. I am looking for a great tone, and really wanting the whole 'AEROSMITH' sound, or at least close to it. As of now the settings are.

the fractions below are how far the knob is turned up.


GAIN - 1/4
VOLUME - 1/4

BASS - 1/2
CONTOUR - 1/2
TREBLE - 1/2

REVERB - 1/4


now I have no experience with amps, and I have tried slightly tinkering with the settings, but I am just not sure as to where i'd go.

I know that when I am running OD through the distortion, that if the guitar is just hanging (while on) the amp will make that 'squeal' effect and it drives me nuts.

So UG, please help a guy with a crappy amp.
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1992 Ibanez RG550
Amplifier
1978 Marshall JMP 2203
#2
Wait you have a gibson and an MG?
Wait again your running an OD pedal into a Distortion pedal?
Did I read right?

Anyway just run the OD pedal into the clean, MGs distortion is pretty unusable and noisy, so its not surprising you're feedbacking, you don't need that much gain for the likes of aerosmith.
Settings thread would be your best bet, but remember mids are the greatest thing ever invented.
#3
I would suggest turning down the gain all the way and slowly turning it up until it sounds ok but doesn't have unwanted noise. Do the same with the settings on the pedal.

If all else fails, go sell your amp. (but keep your guitar because the LP studios are nice)

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#4
I thought running OD (built into the amp) into a Distortion pedal was never a bad thing?
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#5
I bought an Epiphone LP 100 and the MG together, I upgraded the guitar because I had 3 of the 100's break on me, so I figured I should spend enough to get a good guitar. Now, I need to upgrade the amp
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#6
yea, I do NOT have an OD pedal, its just the OD setting on the amp.
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#7
throw it out the window
kidding. just don't run any pedal that increases gain or whatever into the distortion channel of a SS amp, it usually results in too much gain for... anything. keep the amp on clean and then the pedal will break it up into the crunchy sound your after. then just tweak the EQ til it sound sbest to you
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#8
C4
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I thought running OD (built into the amp) into a Distortion pedal was never a bad thing?



I thought you were on about two seperate pedals. Lulz. Insanity I thought.

It's supposed to be the opposite way around, OD Pedal -> Amps natural gain/distortion, and this usually only applies to valve amps.
#10
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#11
actually, semtex has a better explosion tone than C4.
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#12
I know, having the MG sucks.........I play amps at GC that kick the snot out of it..............everyone who comes here and knows nothing about it goes 'OOOOOHHHHH a GIBSON LP and a MARSHALL' and I smile...............a smile that holds back tears.

So, the main reason I bought the Distortion pedal was because I thought it was what I needed to run, so your telling me I should have bought an Overdrive pedal to run through my OD built into the amp?
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#13
^ nah, not necessarily. it works better on some SS amps than others... i know it works pretty poorly on the avt.

try the distortion pedal through the clean channel?
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So, the main reason I bought the Distortion pedal was because I thought it was what I needed to run, so your telling me I should have bought an Overdrive pedal to run through my OD built into the amp?


Meh it's ok, I bought my Fender before I got a decent amp, so I can't talk.
No you shouldn't have, your fine with the distortion. Just abandon the amps built in distortion alltogether, that's what I did with my MG. It sounded like white noise when I went back to it after a few moths of just using my cheap Dano Fab pedal.
Just keep it on the clean channel all the time and kick in the pedal when you want something heavier, it'll be alot nicer on the ears.
#15
i'm sure there are many worse amps than an MG. just be thankful it's an MG15 meaning it cost you peanuts anyway
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So, the main reason I bought the Distortion pedal was because I thought it was what I needed to run, so your telling me I should have bought an Overdrive pedal to run through my OD built into the amp?



no, if you run any type of distortion/overdrive in addition to a solid state amp's distortion channel, it tends to sound like ass. Us the distortion pedal with the clean channel of the amp.
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#17
No, I'd go for HBX.

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i'm sure there are many worse amps than an MG. just be thankful it's an MG15 meaning it cost you peanuts anyway



The MG series has to be one of the worst amps out there. I have a MG DFX series & they are utter w*nk. I would use my 30watt for smaller gigs but sadly it keeps cutting out at random times & I cant be arsed to get it looked because Ive heard of people sending it away to have it fixed or checked out but the problem always came back after a few days of the amp returning.

& most people look after their kit responsibly god knows i do.

So I have been unlucky in that sense that i spent a lot on it but then dont use it to its full potential if it actually has any.

the amp is so unblanced the distortion is so much uber loud then the clean channel, the cleans sound like you you walked into a jazz club & shot the guitarist so they sax player now has to fill in for the dead guitarist. & as for the distortion...its just bland sold state crap. with homo digital effects I dont even use
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#19
haha, so should I run OD with Dist, or clean with Dist for the best 'aerosmith' tone?
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#20
^ Try it.

To be honest and you know this as much as us, you are NOT going to get an aerosmith tone out of an MG, so all you can do is play and tweak to the best of your ability to try and get an acceptable tone out of it
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#21
dont layer od and dist, it will sound like mud.


start on the clean channel and add a dist pedal. adjust the tone at the pedal.

the right pedal on an mg can work fine until u upgrade. that;s it.
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#22
You are going to get a better amp and many non-guitarists can't tell the difference anyway. Just do the best you can with what you have. Upgrade and improve when possible. It's an ongoing process.
Run the distortion through the clean channel and don't scoop the mid's too severely. It'll work till you get something else.
#23
Wow. I am very impressed UG. Hardly any flaming of him having an MG. Mostly advice. Three cheers for UG?

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#29
This guy sounds pretty decent. However, he seems to be a pretty good player, and it's possible he has a pedalboard somewhere with something like an eq or light od.


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#30
Bass - 3
Mids - 10
Treble - 4
Presence - 10

That's what I use on my AVT (glorified MG).
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#31
To make your MG sound better throw it away and buy a JCM 800
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#32
ive got an MG50, and IMO i get a reasonable sound out it, for in the house anyway...
i'm not using it for an aerosmith type tone, but you could try it out and tweak it a bit

my settings are:
gain - between 6 and 9 (depending on what im playing)
treble - 9
contour - 3/4
bass - 5/6
reverb - 5

i sometimes use chorus or delay from the DFX section
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#33
I had the mg 15 before I bought my Blues Jr, and theres no way Im going back to the mg series.
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