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Has listening to punk influenced your political views? Have you become a rabid conspiracy theorist since listening to punk? Have you stopped listening to punk to become a conservative republican? Share your stories. I would find it hard to believe that people who listen to Leftover Crack are still in the same political boat as those who prefer any modern pop singer.
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#2
michale graves didnt stop listening to punk while stay a conservative.

and in a way punk introduced me to anarchism, which i have now rejected and become an an anarcho-pacisfist.

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#4
I think it was the other way for me...my political views were such that they agreed with most punk bands so I started listening to it.
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#5
Seeing as there are punk bands that support total anarchy, democracy, pacifism, violence, and re-visiting the Holocaust, I don't think you can really put a label on any one political ideal and call it punk.
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#6
punk and politics is one of the worst combinations ever, actually any type of music and politics is. I for one don't want to hear what a band has to say on subjects like that, I want to hear them play, not talk, and I don't want music to be driven by the personal moral agenda of the band.
I want music to be driven by the love of playing it.
#7
It's kinda influenced me. I didn't really consider anarchism before, which now I do. Unfortunately it's so unrealistic, especially with the state of things now, that I'm just very liberal in a lot of way.

Also, I think most punk bands now are embracing pacifism. As do I.
#8
Years of listening to punk have taught me to stay switched on and to be aware of the things happening around me, but I like to form my own opinions on these things rather than just spewing forth something I heard from a band I like...
#9
I don't listen to political music, because I don't really care what they have to say.

Besides Billy Bragg of course, cause simply put, he's the shit.
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#12
I started listening to punk because I had the same political views. I wouldn't immediatly agree with a kind of music just because I listen to it. That's stupid.
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I started listening to punk because I had the same political views. I wouldn't immediatly agree with a kind of music just because I listen to it. That's stupid.



Same here.
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Yeah, the politics were a big part of what appealed to me about punk. I agreed with what bands had to say, so I started listening to them. And through listening to them, my mind was expanded. I thought about what they had to say and did develop some political philosophies from punk. But it's not because of the music that I think how I do. It's a combination of my thinking brain combined with influence from the music and everything I've seen throughout my life.
#15
Rise Against has the biggest influence on me...they're my favorite band. State of the Union is an excellent song...look up the lyrics if you can't understand him, they're really amazing. RA is really the only punk (or closest thing to punk) that influences me...System of a Down and Rage Against the Machine (and The Nightwatchman/Tom Morello) influence me just as much.

As far as being an "anarchist" because you listen to punk, I think it is ridiculous. I mean, if you truly were an anarchist you'd do whatever you want, and you'd end up in jail eventually...if you live in the U.S. anyway. I hate people in like high school or people you say everyday and they're all like ANARCHY YEAH!! It's like...idiot then why the hell are you here, in the system just as much as me?
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#16
i used to worship RATM's lyrics like they were all in the world that is awsome.

but then i realized how socialist it was, and i got scared off.
but i still love like no ****in otha.
#17
I usually take politics coming from punks with a grain of salt because I know too many stupid punks to take what they say too seriously. With that said, I do listen to a lot of political bands because I happen to agree with what they are saying.
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#18
I had my liberal views before I started listening to punk. I started caring about politics in 7th grade and listening to punk in 9th.
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i used to worship RATM's lyrics like they were all in the world that is awsome.

but then i realized how socialist it was, and i got scared off.
but i still love like no ****in otha.

Ha, yeah I hear ya. You should find footage of Wake Up at Coachella and listen to Zach's speech. Hardcore stuff.
#20
i dont know anything about all the -ists and -isms (fascism, nazism, liberalism, socialism, capitalism) maybe someone should do a thread explaining all those in easy-to-understand ways.

but since i listened to punk, i learnt to practice racial equality and how stupid are wars and the damage and harm it causes to millions of people because of money-hungry politicians. it just really shows me how bad governments can really be nowadays. it also showed me how fake the media and pop cultures can be and stuff.
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I don't want music to be driven by the personal moral agenda of the band.
I want music to be driven by the love of playing it.


Since when were those two things mutually exclusive?
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#23
I guess it probably has.

I find that starting off of punk has generally helped me become more open minded about most things, but I think I would be fairly liberal regardless on what genre I got into.
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Turn to the Screeching Weasel song Nicaragua for my view on politics in music.



Its Nicarauga.

he misspelled it on purpose
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I guess it probably has.

I find that starting off of punk has generally helped me become more open minded about most things, but I think I would be fairly liberal regardless on what genre I got into.

Same here.
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i dont know anything about all the -ists and -isms (fascism, nazism, liberalism, socialism, capitalism) maybe someone should do a thread explaining all those in easy-to-understand ways.


how do you not know what facism, nazism, liberalism, socialism or capitalism are?
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#28
NoFX. Fat Mike's politics just move me so much.

Liberal Animation troo punx!!

Honestly though, punk does help one stay awake when people shut off the lights(cough subtle media reference cough).

I'm such a poser.
#29
Sometimes it is stupid when bands talk about political issues, I mean, it's just some guys, telling you what to do. Why would you listen to an entertainer with sometimes no high school education? Like Leftover Crack. One band that actually has respectable issues is Bad Religion, who have a member with a Ph.D

I'm pretty sure even the guys in NOFX have been to college.

It depends on what kind of politics you're looking at though, not all things are more respectable with a college/high school education.
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Sometimes it is stupid when bands talk about political issues, I mean, it's just some guys, telling you what to do. Why would you listen to an entertainer with sometimes no high school education? Like Leftover Crack. One band that actually has respectable issues is Bad Religion, who have a member with a Ph.D

I'm pretty sure even the guys in NOFX have been to college.

It depends on what kind of politics you're looking at though, not all things are more respectable with a college/high school education.


I very much agree with this sentiment. Fat Mike actually went to college, but is still a little irritating/preachy, but he isn't stupid. I just hate how he pretends to be more stupid than he is.
#31
true, but leftover crack doesnt seem to try to be intelligent, they speak from (more or less) the street point of view.
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Since when were those two things mutually exclusive?


since bob dylan made music, i suppose...
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how do you not know what facism, nazism, liberalism, socialism or capitalism are?




That's my best guess.
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true, but leftover crack doesnt seem to try to be intelligent, they speak from (more or less) the street point of view.


Yeah, makes sense. I agree with that.

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since bob dylan made music, i suppose...


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#38
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i always silently laugh when i see some dumbf.uck singing "this land is our land" as a patriotic song

We always sang it in elementary school as a patriotic song. It wasn't until later when I found out who Woody Guthrie was that I learned what it was really about
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#39
It is a patriotic song. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the term patriot comes from the American revolution, in which people fought against an oppressive government for freedom. That's totally punx rawk. If, however, by patriotism, you just mean mindless nationalism (as it's typically used)...you're right. Woody Guthry was a smart man and that was a song speaking about the good AND bad in America. A questioning of injustices...damn Woody was punx.
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It is a patriotic song. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the term patriot comes from the American revolution, in which people fought against an oppressive government for freedom. That's totally punx rawk. If, however, by patriotism, you just mean mindless nationalism (as it's typically used)...you're right. Woody Guthry was a smart man and that was a song speaking about the good AND bad in America. A questioning of injustices...damn Woody was punx.



lol yeah i meant as in mindless nationalism

same always happens with springsteen's only good song, born in the usa, as people usually think its like...a proud to be american song like....do they LISTEN to the song?
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