#1
So the first time i've ever been to guitar center I walk in and theres this guy playing lamb of god out of a line 6 spider stack i was like hah. so I walk over and plug a guitar into a Marshall Jcm 2000 stack and it wasn't what I expected. So i walk over and plug it into a $400 Crate ss stack and the tone was sweet! Got done with that, plugged it into the spider stack and the effects were awesome, and the tone wasn't that bad either. So just wondering for everyone that bashes these amps, have you played them? and what didn't you like about them :S.

oh, I played a MG Fullstack and it sucked lol.
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#3
oh, thanks man .
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#4
lol sorry didnt mean to sound like an asshole. just meant that what sounds good to me wont sound good to a metal monster for example
#5
I guess. was just looking for a more legit answer lol
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#6
eh, that crate halfstack might have some serious gain, but in reality, there's not much of a difference in tone between the 2 dist. channels.

it's a instant-gratification amp for sure, but it gets so stale and buzzy after a while.


it seems to me that the higher amps aren't all 'plug and play' and require tweaking and a careful ear.
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#7
and about the spider, it just didnt seem to have any depth. i played one next to a crate palamino amp, and the spider or spyder whatever the hell it is just sounded bland and lifeless. and the insane setting was a little over the top, and worthless. also it hummed like crazy. i tried a jcm2000 the same day and it was awesome. i guess its all what sounds good to you
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I can understand these amps sounding pretty neat in the shop. They're higher gainier than the tube amp nearby. There's no mix to cut thru, and they sound their best at lower volumes.

Then you bring it home and it's your only amp. It gets more digital sounding everyday. The effects all sound phony, and rather alike. You bring it to band practice and it sounds like thin, harsh fuzz. The new guitarist shows up with a 30W tube combo and now you can't even hear yourself anymore, and you can't figure out why.

But it sounded so cool in the store!
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#10
heh ^..
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I can understand these amps sounding pretty neat in the shop. They're higher gainier than the tube amp nearby. There's no mix to cut thru, and they sound their best at lower volumes.

Then you bring it home and it's your only amp. It gets more digital sounding everyday. The effects all sound phony, and rather alike. You bring it to band practice and it sounds like thin, harsh fuzz. The new guitarist shows up with a 30W tube combo and now you can't even hear yourself anymore, and you can't figure out why.

But it sounded so cool in the store!

that happened to my other guitarist, when i bought my valveking, even though i don't like the vk's tone very much, it destroys my old crate, in ever way, especially since i can hear what notes i am playing now, and it doesn't sound like im at the dentist any more, at least for me, don't get me started on my other guitarist, i love him, but his amp has got to go
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I can understand these amps sounding pretty neat in the shop. They're higher gainier than the tube amp nearby. There's no mix to cut thru, and they sound their best at lower volumes.

Then you bring it home and it's your only amp. It gets more digital sounding everyday. The effects all sound phony, and rather alike. You bring it to band practice and it sounds like thin, harsh fuzz. The new guitarist shows up with a 30W tube combo and now you can't even hear yourself anymore, and you can't figure out why.

But it sounded so cool in the store!

pretty much. Everybody has different opinions. You might not really be any good at setting an eq yet, which could explain the ****tiness of the JCM.
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#13
My real peeve with the spider series is the lack of usable dynamics. Not much difference in tone when I really bite down when I pick, no extra oomph like on my amps. The tone itself is ok, but it starts to sound generic after awhile.
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I can understand these amps sounding pretty neat in the shop. They're higher gainier than the tube amp nearby. There's no mix to cut thru, and they sound their best at lower volumes.

Then you bring it home and it's your only amp. It gets more digital sounding everyday. The effects all sound phony, and rather alike. You bring it to band practice and it sounds like thin, harsh fuzz. The new guitarist shows up with a 30W tube combo and now you can't even hear yourself anymore, and you can't figure out why.

But it sounded so cool in the store!



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I can understand these amps sounding pretty neat in the shop. They're higher gainier than the tube amp nearby. There's no mix to cut thru, and they sound their best at lower volumes.

Then you bring it home and it's your only amp. It gets more digital sounding everyday. The effects all sound phony, and rather alike. You bring it to band practice and it sounds like thin, harsh fuzz. The new guitarist shows up with a 30W tube combo and now you can't even hear yourself anymore, and you can't figure out why.

But it sounded so cool in the store!


That happened to me with the Tonelabs SE
I tried it out at the music fair in Frankfurt when I was still a beginner and had a relatively cheap SS amp. And they only had headphones - no amp connected do it. I thought it sounded sooo great. So when inherited a lot of money a few years later I bought it. Just that I'm playing a JSX now. Seems much worse than when I tried it out and now I'm gonna sell it on ebay.
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My real peeve with the spider series is the lack of usable dynamics. Not much difference in tone when I really bite down when I pick, no extra oomph like on my amps. The tone itself is ok, but it starts to sound generic after awhile.
Yeah, it's modelled gain, not actual gain - you don't ever get any feedback unless you totally crank the amp.
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Yeah, it's modelled gain, not actual gain - you don't ever get any feedback unless you totally crank the amp.


and even then, it's not the good kinda feedback.
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#19
It sounded good in the store at low volumes - all modeling amps do when playing shred crap.
Take both amps into a rehearsal with a full band and watch the DSL do its thing.
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#20
I didn't buy it ^ I have a Peavey VK 112.
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But I had a buckethead type effect on and I was sweeping this Atreyu song and it sounded completely awesome lol.
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#22
thats because youve probably played very few actual pedals, so in comparison, those effects sound great because you havnt heard what theyre trying to model. When you do, youll hear the difference.
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