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#41
i actually liked the streetlight version better. Allthough the catch 22 version was more raw the streetlight version seemed to have more energy and emotion put into it.
#42
Quote by daytripper75
i never saw the point of that album.

i mean, it isnt that much different than the Catch-22 version, and i dont think its even as good as the original.


still, it sounds good. i love Everything Goes Numb as well. great album. i hope they come out with a new one soon.


its the same singer and they improved it... how do you find it not as good? i find it a lot better than the original but thats just me
#43
Hope this doesn't turn into the same debate from like 3-4 days ago of Streetlight's Keasbey Nights versus Catch's Keasbey Nights.

Streetlight is the best ska band EVAR.
#44
Does anyone else no anything about this "big big news"? If you go to Streetlight's website it says, "Check back here during the week for big big news". Anyone else think it could be a new album release date? Well my work here is done now it is your turn to...DISCUSS!
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#45
It's probably the release date. At the Summer Campout they told us that the album was finished, and that they were now out of the studio with this one...it must be a release date...or the Europe tour dates, but it better be the album....they're releasing the damn Chinese Democracy of ska...
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#46
Haha yeah except for Kalnoky isn't an asshole!
How many brothas fell victim to the streets?


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#48
Hopefully it's about the new album. I've been waiting for it forever.
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#50
Hopefully it's a release date for the new album. Hopefully...
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#52
Quote by cecil69
Haha yeah except for Kalnoky isn't an asshole!


Hey hey! No proof against that yet.

But hopefully it's a new album release date.

Or their **** got stolen again so they're calling it quits.
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#53
Quote by the glue man
They're braking up.

Or Kalnoky is coming out.



this new album has got to be the most anticipated ska album ever.
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#54
I can't wait for this album!!!
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#55
When I saw em live they didn't mention/play any new stuff, but I hope it's the new album.
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#57
Quote by Holy Magenta
Either a release date or the entire band decided to go out and get gender reassignments.

That would be big news
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#58
i'm fairly sure that it would have to be the new album...they played one song that i had never heard before, and tomas said that the album was done. I hardly heard over the screams of adoration, people in Utah freaking worship that guy (for good reason).
#59
People still listen to them?

Jeez, I always thought they were just a fad.
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#60
yeah basically its one of those drag on releases which will be anticipated for 10 years, then released, and be the worst POS ever
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#61
Hopefully the new album will build on the amazing instrumental pieces in their first album.

I'm not too hopeful about the lyrics. I know a lot of people seem to think Kalnoky is a great lyricist, and I agree, but only if you're talking about Ska. He's great when it comes to rhyming, but when it comes to deeper meanings the songs are quite shallow, and most of the explanations I see of his songs are just reaching too far, almost to the point where it makes Tom look like he's trying too hard.

Some rhymes were quite awkward in the first album, and the points in the album that Kalnoky went off-key made me cringe. If it's a studio album it seemed like he could nail those notes (you have a lot of tries), but somehow the final cut still included his mistakes.

So my hopes for the new album: Awesome (continued) instrument combinations, lyrics that flow with the song (instead of sounding out-of-time and forced, like the first album did quite often), notes that are all on-key, and, most of all, lyrics that stick true to ska.

Don't get me wrong, I love change, but the first album seemed to be trying too hard to have deeper meanings and insightful thoughts. I've always listened to Ska because of my love for the music, not the lyrics.
They say the old woman's got the wisdom
'Cause she couldn't read the clock anymore
She said "The numbers don't represent the moments"
Says she don't see what all the ticking's for
#62
Quote by Greenfinger182

So my hopes for the new album: Awesome (continued) instrument combinations, lyrics that flow with the song (instead of sounding out-of-time and forced, like the first album did quite often), notes that are all on-key, and, most of all, lyrics that stick true to ska.

Don't get me wrong, I love change, but the first album seemed to be trying too hard to have deeper meanings and insightful thoughts. I've always listened to Ska because of my love for the music, not the lyrics.


Perhaps Kalnoky is just one of the best song writers of the modern era and doesn't want to write songs about "Rude Boys!" or "Pick It UP!" or even the plain old "SKA!" Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy bands who sing about the typical stuff, but I just feel that for Streetlight to start it, would be a step backwards from their uniqueness.
#63
^haha, the first thing that came to my mind was the Toasters. (Two Tone Army, Frankenska, Skaternity, Radiation Skank, Skafinger, Ska Killers)

I don't see the big deal about Kalnoky, he's great at arranging music but the lyrcis aren't the best. They're pretty much the only new-er band that I like, it's like a light of hope in a pitch black cave. They're actually original as well, because the only band I've heard that really sounds like them is Catch 22 (duh). Their songs do tend to get repetitive though.
#64
Quote by JesusOfSbrbia
I've never noticed anything off-key in the first one.

GreenFinger182, are you referring to Keasbey Nights or Everything Goes Numb?

Everything Goes Numb. Just for a quick example, listen to "We Are the Few." When he goes into the bridge ("This has been the best night of my life"), every time he says "life" he goes off-key. That's the one that really got to me.

Quote by JohnnyGoSka
Perhaps Kalnoky is just one of the best song writers of the modern era and doesn't want to write songs about "Rude Boys!" or "Pick It UP!" or even the plain old "SKA!" Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy bands who sing about the typical stuff, but I just feel that for Streetlight to start it, would be a step backwards from their uniqueness.

See, that first statement is the one that makes a nerve in my body twitch. When I was reading reviews on here, I saw a UG writer say something similar. Something about Tom being "One of the best songwriters of this generation." Ska is one of my favorite genres of music, but I listen to so many more, and ska has always been a genre I've come to looking for great musical pieces. To tell you the truth, I thought many of the songs on EGN were laughable (when it came to lyrics), especially the constant rhyming of "end" and "friend." Tom has to get the songs into a rhythmic flow rather than what sometimes sounds like mad rambling (this is not innovative and it will not move the genre further).

Believe me, if Kalnoky wrote meaningful lyrics in a rhythmic flow (which I think he was trying to do on the first album, but failed a bit), I could not be happier for the Ska genre. Blending great lyrics with the music I love would be orgasmic, and I truly hope Tom can make that happen. But he definitely did not make it happen with EGN.

I am almost convinced that the people who consider him 'one of this generation's greatest lyricists' have listened to nothing but Ska and Punk their entire lives.

Best of luck to Kalnoky in his future lyrical endeavors. Hopefully he can correct all the mistakes he made on EGN and build on the better lyrical parts of the album.
They say the old woman's got the wisdom
'Cause she couldn't read the clock anymore
She said "The numbers don't represent the moments"
Says she don't see what all the ticking's for
#65
Quote by Greenfinger182
Everything Goes Numb. Just for a quick example, listen to "We Are the Few." When he goes into the bridge ("This has been the best night of my life"), every time he says "life" he goes off-key. That's the one that really got to me.


See, that first statement is the one that makes a nerve in my body twitch. When I was reading reviews on here, I saw a UG writer say something similar. Something about Tom being "One of the best songwriters of this generation." Ska is one of my favorite genres of music, but I listen to so many more, and ska has always been a genre I've come to looking for great musical pieces. To tell you the truth, I thought many of the songs on EGN were laughable (when it came to lyrics), especially the constant rhyming of "end" and "friend." Tom has to get the songs into a rhythmic flow rather than what sometimes sounds like mad rambling (this is not innovative and it will not move the genre further).

Believe me, if Kalnoky wrote meaningful lyrics in a rhythmic flow (which I think he was trying to do on the first album, but failed a bit), I could not be happier for the Ska genre. Blending great lyrics with the music I love would be orgasmic, and I truly hope Tom can make that happen. But he definitely did not make it happen with EGN.

I am almost convinced that the people who consider him 'one of this generation's greatest lyricists' have listened to nothing but Ska and Punk their entire lives.

Best of luck to Kalnoky in his future lyrical endeavors. Hopefully he can correct all the mistakes he made on EGN and build on the better lyrical parts of the album.


See, the whole 2 genres of punk and ska are generally new to me (past 6-9 months), And before that I've listened to everything from pop, to classic rock, to blues, to jazz, to grunge, metal, and yes, even country in a younger age. I've been exposed to it all, and I still stand by my statement of Kalnoky being one of the best song writers of the modern era. Name someone who is better, and back it up, and who knows, I may agree with you, that's why I said "one of the best," because opinions always fall into play.

Personally, I put him up there because of lyrics in songs such as "A Moment of Silence" and "They Provide the Paint...". Now, I like most of his lyrical performances, but these are 2 of my favorites, A Moment of Silence simply because of his word selection and the way it all flows, and The Provide the Paint because of the message the lyrics bring out, without coming out and saying it all straight up. Also, he gets song writing points in my mind for his musical composition skills. "If And When We Rise Again" is, in my opinion, a musical masterpiece, and others, such as "Here's to Life," "Dear Sergio," and even "Riding the Fourth Wave," which I'm not sure he wrote as it's an instrumental, but he does write all the horn section in other songs, so I'm assuming he's behind it.

However, like I said earlier, this topic is littered with opportunities for personal opinion to come into play, so there is no winner or loser in the matter. What I do know however, is I just got my tickets to see them in Toronto on the 26th of August, and I am crazy psyched to see them live, hopefully they'll have their new album out by then, and can play some new stuff.
#66
We'll continue this via PM, just because I don't want to clutter this thread arguing about Tom's lyrical stylings. I do have one or two lyricists you may find of interest.

And trust me, I'd be excited to see them live as well.
They say the old woman's got the wisdom
'Cause she couldn't read the clock anymore
She said "The numbers don't represent the moments"
Says she don't see what all the ticking's for
#67
If you go to their website it says the album is finished and wrapped, they would announce a release date this month, a HEADLINING tour this month, and they are making a music video! And They would put up song samples this month too.
How many brothas fell victim to the streets?


Rest in peace young nigga, there's a heaven for a G.
#68
I just got my tickets the twenty sixth too. See you there JohnnyGoSka, even though I have absolutely no idea who you are. Oh yeah, and who the hell are they playing with on those added dates? AAA I assume?
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#69
^Nope, Streetlight's actually headlining this one, so I'm actually happier than if they came with the big tour. They have the Ceremonial Snips opening all their Canadian dates, and The Expos are the other act in Toronto.
#70
Of course it's going to be the new album. But it'd be even better if they added that they were leaving Victory Records or some ****.
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#71
I hope it's a release date. Keasbey Nights and Everything Goes Numb is growing old on me...
#72
Streetlight is playing a headlining tour with Dan Potthast's side project. The name escapes me... The Stitch Up?
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#73
August 13, 2007
We're baaaack... So, where do we begin...
A) New Record... OFFICIALLY DONE AND FINISHED AND WRAPPED!
B) New Record title... To be announced right here, this very month!
C) New Record song samples, to be posted here, this very month!
D) New Record release date, to be posted here, this very month!
E) First official Streetlight music video, more info soon, right here

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I just check back ocasionally.
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#74
The other night I was driving home from Knoxville with 4 other people in the car, and every single one of us was belting "Keasbey Nights" the whole way home. It was epic.
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#76
^Did you honestly need to revive all 3 Streetlight threads to say almost the same thing in every one? :P They're awesome, no doubt, but I'm thinking, what can be said throughout 3 threads, could be much more organized and made into a great post in just one of those threads. All forum mumbo-jumbo aside, I'm going to see them in Toronto in 4 days. Anyone else going?
#78
new cd title: somewhere in the between
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#79
Quote by kevkingofthesea
Keasbey Nights (Streetlight Version). 1 car full of Ska kids. 1 interstate drive. EPIC.


Real Ska kids don't listen to Streetlight.

They listen to Dekker.
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My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious.
I want your heart.
I want to eat your children.

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