Poll: Is this possible
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#1
A glitch occured when I tried to make this before. Here it is:

Do you believe it is possible for a guitarist to reach a limit where it is impossible for him/her to improve any further, and he/she has reached the limits of the instrument. For a while, people thought Andrés Segovia had reached the point where he could no longer improve, yet even at his own time, there were some well-known guitarists that were just as skilled, if not more so than he.

And I try to think in terms of broad criteria. If you don't believe it's possible, what about broad styles of guitar. I don't mean like mastering some techniques, rather than the whole genre. For instance; is it possible for a Metal guitarist to reach a point where his skills can no longer improve? Obviously a classical guitarist (that only plays classical) couldn't play Metal perfectly on the first try, and a Metal guitarists that only play Metal couldn't play classical perfectly either.

My question is, do you think it is possible to have unbeatable skills at an instrument.
#2
Wow finally a great thread to come out of the pit. I think that if you are maxing out your skills you may also be limiting yourself. I mean you could do things like mesh other styles into your playing to go a new direction and expand your playing. Tough question to answer though.
#3
not really. there are ALWAYS new things to learn. and in my opinion you can never stop learning.
#4
I don't think there are any limits. The human fingers will just evolve to play faster/better than before.
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#5
I doubt it. I mean, we really do live fairly short lives, and there are tons of developments in music that span periods far longer than the average lifetime.
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#7
Yes, their is a limit to ones playing ability, but this pertains more to the individuals dedication to the instrument, more then anything physical. I a comic book or album art illustraitor picks up guitar, because he works closely in that industry, he is most likely not gonna' get ass far as the artist that he draws for. A full time guitarist, on the other hand, who sees it not only as a hobbie but as their very life, could possibly master Blues, Metal, Classical and Jazz all with in their lifetimes.
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If it is, I don't think anyone could do it in their own life time..

PS: In your last thread I thought you tried to make a blank thread, because the title: "Is it possible"..

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#9
good question.I 've been thinking about that for a while.It's like when everybody thought van halen was unique and super fast.but then again time past and skills were imrpoved etc.To answer your question .No,I don't think it is impossible .I'm a metal/classical guitarist just so you know .
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If it is, I don't think anyone could do it in their own life time..

PS: In your last thread I thought you tried to make a blank thread, because the title: "Is it possible"..

No, some glitch occured. =/
#12
nope, human nature just not possible to be the best at anything. Their is always someone better or more things to learn. You can be good for what a guitarist has done or anyone at something but not the best. None get that word....
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#13
lol as of now theres 13 votes and no has 100% of them
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#15
I guess firstly you'd need to find out the limitations of the instrument before testing this theory, and then find out if a person could reach or possibly even break them.
#16
in some areas, very very unlikely and near impossible, but some sort of limit could be reached.

for instance, speed. the human fingers/reflexes are only so fast, and though nobody will ever really do it, eventually, there would be a point at which it is impossible for your fingers to move at a greater speed.
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#18
**** I put no instead of yes.
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nope theres always someone thats better and that gives you area to improve.

But can one be absolute about the others playing skills? It some dude over heres shreds some Necrophagist, and a dude over here 8 7th chords with in 4 seconds and both convey some form of emotion through their playing, is their really a such thing as either of them being "better"?
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But can one be absolute about the others playing skills? It some dude over heres shreds some Necrophagist, and a dude over here 8 7th chords with in 4 seconds and both convey some form of emotion through their playing, is their really a such thing as either of them being "better"?



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#22
I dont think its possible because you always have people like the aforementioned EVH, who develope a new technique (in his case 2 handed tapping) that nobody had thought of before. So, even if a guitarist were to master the guitar, somebody else would come along and make something new.
#23
it also has to do with how you would define master. Melody, technique and speed are all very broad topics that would take a long time to mention. Not to mention theres like, dozens of thousands of chords, tons of scales, different modes, keys, etc
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#24
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I dont think its possible because you always have people like the aforementioned EVH, who develope a new technique (in his case 2 handed tapping) that nobody had thought of before. So, even if a guitarist were to master the guitar, somebody else would come along and make something new.


I agree.. you'd have to mess around with a whole bunch of guitars 2. Like 12 strings. 10 strings. 7 strings, 8 strings.. PLus there is so much to cover and as sirwintson89 says.. even if you manage to master it someone esle will come along and invent something new
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#26
Once you get to old you cant get any better, eg. when your fingers are getting old and stiff. You can always learn more about music, but there is a limit to your learning on an instrument.
#27
I was thinking there has to be some sort of limit, as the human body can't have fingers which move at infinite speed. I think the limit is more like (Got me thinking baout math here) a limit which exists, but people being able to move towards it an decreasing incriments, so the player will never stop improving, but will never reach the limit of what is humanly possible.

I hope somebody understands that.
#28
I believe that certain people are mentally unable to sit down and practise for the hours that it takes to advance to a high level of skill. But no healthy person is physically incapable of improving. That isn't to say that there aren't physical restrictions on how fast a player can move their fingers as bluephyre suggested, but that is only one aspect of playing.
#29
i dont think its possible.

when people think the sounds cant be pushed any further, an omar rodriguez or a tom morello will come along with some revolutionary effects chain that requires you to look at the guitar from a different angle.
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