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#1
Has anyone tried this amp and is there anything you can get cheaper for a practice amp than the marshall that is just as good if not better? I mainly play rock and want a tone in the style of slash and have that thick crunch tone.

I was also looking at the mg15dfx and the line six spiders and am not sure what to do.

Would the mg15dfx marshall lack in sound quality by any chance? Or is it just smaller and have the same sound quality.
#2
What's your price budget?
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#3
dude prepare to get flamed.

MGs have a really bad rep cause they suck as do line 6 spiders.
Go with a tube amp.

whats your budget
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ok here's the thing, i tryed a marshall 30dfx. its a good amp. though i'd step up 2 the 50 dfx. and if its practice amps. the 15 dfx is good. but after a period of time u will need a bigger wattage amp for better rock and metal sounds. or you can try line6 as i've heard many people say that they have very good rock tones. i work in a music shop so i know a fair few things.
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imo, for rock, go for the Vox Ad30Vt. I went for the spider cos its better for metal.
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dude prepare to get flamed.

MGs have a really bad rep cause they suck as do line 6 spiders.
Go with a tube amp.

whats your budget

He wants a practice amp.
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#7
i'd go for the marshall 15dfx or a small line6. both top amps in their field.
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He wants a practice amp.


there are small 5 watt tube amps that are just as loud or louder than a 30 w ss and sound way better.

peavey royal 8 costs 200
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there are small 5 watt tube amps that are just as loud or louder than a 30 w ss and sound way better.

peavey royal 8 costs 200

But this guy looks like he's on a tight budget. In my opinion, I think the best route for the threadstarter would be to get a decent modeling amp and practice with the set tones.

He's not going to get a crunchy/lead sound with JUST a 5 watt amp (I know, i know) but he might want these effects, then those effects, etc. It really just depends on the guy's budget.


I'm sticking to the statement that SOLID STATE AMPS AREN'T THAT BAD--especially for practice.

I'm just saying, though--only my 2 cents.
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ok here's the thing, i tryed a marshall 30dfx. its a good amp. though i'd step up 2 the 50 dfx. and if its practice amps. the 15 dfx is good. but after a period of time u will need a bigger wattage amp for better rock and metal sounds. or you can try line6 as i've heard many people say that they have very good rock tones. i work in a music shop so i know a fair few things.


I dont see what wattage has to do with "better rock and metal sounds" in a solid state amp.

And i vote Vox Ad30Vt. Ive heard good things about this amp.
#12
yea dude
go with the vox for now
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ok here's the thing, i tryed a marshall 30dfx. its a good amp. though i'd step up 2 the 50 dfx. and if its practice amps. the 15 dfx is good. but after a period of time u will need a bigger wattage amp for better rock and metal sounds. or you can try line6 as i've heard many people say that they have very good rock tones. i work in a music shop so i know a fair few things.

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The Marshall MG series amps sound bad, and are overpriced - I wouldn't pay £20 for one. The AVTs are a bit better but not even close to being worth the price difference. Spiders sound horribly digital and, technically speaking, they don't even have any gain.

I'd go with a Vox Valvetronix, Vox Valvetronix XL or Roland Cube - in 30w versions, the 15w have less features on each. Go with the XL if you want metal tones and a lot of versatility, the Cube if you want metal tones and not alot else, or the standard Valvetronix if you want to play Blues through Rock.
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But this guy looks like he's on a tight budget. In my opinion, I think the best route for the threadstarter would be to get a decent modeling amp and practice with the set tones.

He's not going to get a crunchy/lead sound with JUST a 5 watt amp (I know, i know) but he might want these effects, then those effects, etc. It really just depends on the guy's budget.


I'm sticking to the statement that SOLID STATE AMPS AREN'T THAT BAD--especially for practice.

I'm just saying, though--only my 2 cents.


^ +1

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- If you play mainly metal, got a Roland Cube.

That's just the best way for practice amps.
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i'd go for the marshall 15dfx or a small line6. both top amps in their field.

If you're referring to the field of suckiness then yes, those two amps do indeed set the benchmark...

TS - what's you're budget?
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Quote by Jinskee
But this guy looks like he's on a tight budget. In my opinion, I think the best route for the threadstarter would be to get a decent modeling amp and practice with the set tones.

He's not going to get a crunchy/lead sound with JUST a 5 watt amp (I know, i know) but he might want these effects, then those effects, etc. It really just depends on the guy's budget.


I'm sticking to the statement that SOLID STATE AMPS AREN'T THAT BAD--especially for practice.

I'm just saying, though--only my 2 cents.


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#18
Yeah I'm kinda glad that I had my Cube to start out on and it does do pretty good for metal and good low volume stuff. But if I had the knowledge I do now I would've rather saved the money to get the little tube amp I have now. But of course I didn't have that knowledge so I was lucky enough to get the Cube instead of a mg lol.
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+1

Yeah, the Vox Valvetronix range would be good for classic rock and blues, the Cube for heavier stuff.
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What's your price budget?


there's another type of budget?

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If you're referring to the field of suckiness then yes, those two amps do indeed set the benchmark...

TS - what's you're budget?




i agree with the cube/valvetronix suggestions. the royal 8 is quite nice, but you aren't getting much of a range of tones... you probably wouldn't want one if it were to be your only amp.
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Sure, there's the British government budget, where all the money's spent on "education", i.e. the cost of printing of the ridiculous amount of exam papers.
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i thought it's where they advocated 150% taxes on everything.
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Quote by Engel22
ok here's the thing, i tryed a marshall 30dfx. its a good amp. though i'd step up 2 the 50 dfx. and if its practice amps. the 15 dfx is good. but after a period of time u will need a bigger wattage amp for better rock and metal sounds. or you can try line6 as i've heard many people say that they have very good rock tones. i work in a music shop so i know a fair few things.


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ok here's the thing, i tryed a marshall 30dfx. its a pretty bad amp. though i'd step up 2 the Vox AD30VT or Roland Cube 30 . and if its practice amps. the Vox and Cube are both good . or you can try line6 as i've heard many people say that they have very bad rock tones or for that matter, very bad tone period . i work in a Guitar Center so i know next to nothing about amps .

That should clear things up for you.
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#30
its funny, how most beginners ask about either the MG or the Spider.

Before anyone asks, my spider was given to me for free and yus, i am still a beginner.

anyways, you oughta try both the spider and the mg then compare it to the sounds you get from a low end tube amp. hopefully youll recognize the difference in tone.

if you feel like takin everyone elses word for it, thats fine too.

as for amp suggestions, i would say cube or the vox. didnt help much but oh well
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#31
I nice modelling amp, like the Vox ad30vt or Vox XL series amp is what you'd probably want. I own the ad30vt and it's a great versatile amp.
Also with a wattage knob so you can turn it down for practice. It's also pretty versatile.

To be honest from the stuff i've read about MG's on here, I would go with the Vox instead.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Valvetronix-AD30VT-30W-Guitar-Combo?sku=481959

Or the XL series which is supposed to me more Metal oriented and has heavier settings...
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-Valvetronix-AD30VTXL30W-1x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp?sku=483004

I also read about people mentioning the Roland Cube amps, though i've never used one myself.


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#32
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>_>

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#34
man how do you sig stuff, this thread is full of great stuff lol. id say vox.
#35
Lol.

This thread is just one giant UG stereotype... Crap original ideas, crap advice and people pissing all over MGs and Spiders.

You know what I think would be a better idea than making a thread about what amps not to get and what amps to get.

We should make a thread with the title "I was looking into spiders/mgs.." then fill the thread with pictures of goatse or somehting, then sticky it. That should get the message accross.
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We should make a thread with the title "I was looking into spiders/mgs.." then fill the thread with pictures of goatse or somehting, then sticky it. That should get the message accross.


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and this thread is 2 months old too... who dug this up?
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Awesome, sigged, with spelling mistakes and all.

of course got to keep it true to the source
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