#1
I have no problems with Tapping, Sweeping, Alternate Picking and legato etc but i cant seem to get the right shred tone on my Jackson Rhoads RR3, i have a boss metal core pedal. What settings are best for shred?
#2
You're going to need alot of mids and a fair heft of treble. Quite alot of gain too.

Clarity of picking is essential hense the mids.
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#3
He knows what hes talking about.

if you cant play it on clean, cleanly, its probably going to sound like crap with gain/distortion.

The pedal you have also isnt awesome, i used to have one. I wasnt digging in it, every sound i got out of it was so dry. Do you have an EQ on your amp, or do you use the one on the pedal? that is, if we are talking about the same pedal.
#4
Yeah, you should practise clean too.

Oh yeah, neck pickup too. Forgot to mention that.
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#5
Depends on what kind of shred tone you're after. If you compare shredders like Yngwie, Vai and Gilbert, their tones are quite different. Just don't try to emulate Rusty Cooley's tone. Yuck.
#7
Up to your taste of tone. If you can't play it really sharply, delay+sustain+reverb and stuff tend to muddle up your sound even worse. Shred generally sounds better when its not a muck, so stick to cleaning up your technique and going for a cleaner sound.
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i'd have thought the pedal is probably the problem. what's your amp?
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i'd have thought the pedal is probably the problem. what's your amp?


+1 Get a good amp and/or pedal and the come back, the Boss Metal core isn't a very good one really.
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try setting your amp: bass up all the way, treble up all the way, mids all the way down. slowly experiment turning the mids up a little, and the bass and treble down, until it blends perfectly. Metallica records and plays live with their amps set with the mids down completely. and this has worked best for me.
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try setting your amp: bass up all the way, treble up all the way, mids all the way down. slowly experiment turning the mids up a little, and the bass and treble down, until it blends perfectly. Metallica records and plays live with their amps set with the mids down completely. and this has worked best for me.


I have no idea where this came from as Metallica have nothing to do with shred. For shred a good tone would be to have a really good amp and that's about it; you need to develop your own tone for it because shred doesn't have one archetypal tone.
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try setting your amp: bass up all the way, treble up all the way, mids all the way down. slowly experiment turning the mids up a little, and the bass and treble down, until it blends perfectly. Metallica records and plays live with their amps set with the mids down completely. and this has worked best for me.


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You'd never hear a thing live using that kind of amp setting


Seconded. The guitar is the mids section of a band mainly. That's where the majority of your sound cuts through. If you have it scooped you're competing with the bassist who will simply drown you out.
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Oh yeah, neck pickup too. Forgot to mention that.



I wouldn't say that as a generalisation, only Petrucci spends most of his time on the neck pickup, and then that's only for speed picking parts, most of the time.
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I wouldn't say that as a generalisation, only Petrucci spends most of his time on the neck pickup, and then that's only for speed picking parts, most of the time.


I tend to find it softens up those solo shredding parts high up the neck...get rid of the spike in ear sound you can end up getting using the bridge.

But yeah, it's personal preference.
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I tend to find it softens up those solo shredding parts high up the neck...get rid of the spike in ear sound you can end up getting using the bridge.

But yeah, it's personal preference.


True it makes a very smooth sound if you're clean enough picking wise, but sometimes I like to do a rake and then a bend to whatever the root note is, in which case, I'd want the bridge for that "schrrm----rowwww!" sound
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#18
Im trying to get the Malmsteen tone. Thank you for posts guys!
#19
The Metal Core (ML-2) has a very sucky tone. I recommend using a Digitech Death Metal for the shred tone.
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I recommend using a Digitech Death Metal for the shred tone.


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The Metal Core (ML-2) has a very sucky tone. I recommend using a Digitech Death Metal for the shred tone.

i recommend neither, especially if you want a malmsteen style tone. TS you still havent told us your amp yet have you?
#22
shred has no particular tone,you just work on one that sounds sweet and use it!

of course,youll need better gear
#23
Quote by Kurapica
You're going to need alot of mids and a fair heft of treble. Quite alot of gain too.

Clarity of picking is essential hense the mids.


+1

also you may want to invest into some dimarzios? but yeah as this guy said your picking needs to be very clear.
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try setting your amp: bass up all the way, treble up all the way, mids all the way down. slowly experiment turning the mids up a little, and the bass and treble down, until it blends perfectly. Metallica records and plays live with their amps set with the mids down completely. and this has worked best for me.


never scoop your mids when you're gonna play lead/solos. Unless you dont want to be heard
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just make it so all the notes you play can be heard clearly, without hurting your ears
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