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#1
Here's this one then.

A place to discuss your favourite lyricists, give examples of their lyrics and point out what you admire, like/dislike about them, and discuss what really makes the perfect lyrics writer.

Rules:

DO NOT post your own works in this thread.

DO NOT
spam or go off topic - we have the community thread for that. This is for discussion. I will report any spam posts to the mods.

PLEASE respect others views and opinions, even if they are not the same as yours. As above, any abuse will be reported.

DO keep this as a lyric discussion thread, not a who likes what band thread. This is to discuss the lyrics, and not the music of a band.


Hopefully this thread will give open up more songwriters for people to listen to and experience.

Discuss!
#2
Randy Newman writes absolutely outstanding lyrics. He usually uses Satire, and.. well his lyrics are just great..

Here's one called Rednecks:

We talk real funny down here
We drink too much and we laugh too loud
We're too dumb to make it in no Northern town
And we're keepin' the niggers down

We got no-necked oilmen from Texas
And good ol' boys from Tennessee
And colleges men from LSU
Went in dumb. Come out dumb too
Hustlin' 'round Atlanta in their alligator shoes
Gettin' drunk every weekend at the barbecues
And they're keepin' the niggers down

We're rednecks, rednecks
And we don't know our ass from a hole in the ground
We're rednecks, we're rednecks
And we're keeping the niggers down

Now your northern nigger's a Negro
You see he's got his dignity
Down here we're too ignorant to realize
That the North has set the nigger free

Yes he's free to be put in a cage
In Harlem in New York City
And he's free to be put in a cage on the South-Side of Chicago
And the West-Side
And he's free to be put in a cage in Hough in Cleveland
And he's free to be put in a cage in East St. Louis
And he's free to be put in a cage in Fillmore in San Francisco
And he's free to be put in a cage in Roxbury in Boston
They're gatherin' 'em up from miles around
Keepin' the niggers down
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#3
There are two lyricsts that I admire most of all; Bob Dylan and Tom Verlaine of Television). This is the poem that rewrote to make them lyrics for 'Venus'. Even if I haven't analyzed it thouroughly or anything, it's a beutiful piece.

Tight toy night, streets were so bright.
The world looked so thin and between my bones and skin
there stood another person who was a little surprised
to be face to face with a world so alive.
I fell.

Didja feel low? No, not at all. Huh?

I fell right into the Arms of Venus de Milo.
I stood up, walked out of the Arms of Venus de Milo.
You know it's all like some new kind of drug.
My senses are sharp and my hands are like gloves.
Broadway looked so medieval
it seemed to flap, like little pages
I fell sideways laughing with a friend from many stages.
How l felt.
Suddenly my eyes went so soft and shaky.
I knew there was pain but pain is not aching.
Then Richie, Richie said:
"Hey man let's dress up like cops
Think of what we could do!"
But something, something said "you better not."
And I fell.
#4
Stephan Jenkins.. lead singer of Third Eye Blind is a skilled lyrcist. I try to learn from him because all his songs are original and far from having the common over used rhyme words in them if you know what i mean. Here's some of his good stuff if you don't already know...

God of Wine

Every thought that I repent
Theres another chip you havent spent
And youre cashing them all in
Where do we begin to get clean again
Can we get clean again
I walk home alone with you
And the mood youre born into
Sometimes you let me in
And I take it on the chin
I cant get clean again
I want to know can we get clean again
The God of wine comes crashing through
The head lights of a car that took you farther
Than you thought youd ever want to go
We cant get back again
We cant get back again
She takes a drink and then she waits
The alcohol it permeates
And soon the cells give way, and cancels out the day
I cant keep it all together....


The Background

Everything is quiet since youre not around
And I live in the numbness now
In the background
I do the things we did before
I walk haight street to the store
And they say wheres that crazy girl
You dont get drunk on red wine and fight no more
I dont see you anymore since the hospital
The plans I made still have you in them
Cause you come swimming into view
And Im hanging on your words
Like I always used to do
The words they use so lightly
I only feel for you
I only know because I carry you around
In the background...


Hows It Gonna Be (One of my favorites)

I'm only pretty sure that I can't take anymore
Before you take a swing
I wonder
What are we fighting for
When I say out loud
I want to get out of this
I wonder
Is there anything I'm going to miss
I wonder How it's going to be
When you don't know me
How's it going to be
When you're sure I'm not there
How's it going to be
When there is no one to talk to, between you and me
'Cause I don't care
How's it going to be
#6
I love the lyrics of Ronnie Van Zant. I just think the ability to write such well known and touching songs while keeping the lyrics so simple and in ways, imperfect. The soul that he threw into his songs made them stand out and added something to his music that you didn't find in alot of other rock and roll bands. They may not be in the lyric sheets, but those "Oh Lord"'s and "Son"s added to his lyrics, and the music.

Here's the lyrics from "Working For MCA".

Ohhh ... seven years of hard luck, comin' down on me
From the Florida border, yes, up to Nashville Tennessee
I worked in every joint you can name, yessuh, every honkytonk
Along come Mister Yankee Slicker, sayin' maybe you what I want

Want you to sign your contract
Want you to sign today
Gonna give you lots of money
Workin' for MCA

Ohhh ... nine thousand dollars, just sow at the wind
But we smiled at the Yankee Slicker with a big ol' Southern grin
They're gonna take me out to California, gonna make me a superstar
Just pay me all my money and maybe you won't get a star

Want you to sign your contract
Want you to sign today
Gonna give you lots of money
Workin' for MCA

Ohhh ... slickers steal my money, since I was seventeen
If it ain't no pencil pusher, then it got to be a honkytonk queen
But I'll sign my contract, baby, and I want you people to know
Every penny that I make, I want to see where my money goes

Want you to sign your contract
Want you to sign today
Gonna give you lots of money
Workin' for MCA


Also, I love the lyrics of Jim Croce. Very smooth style of writing, his words flow into each effortlessly and consistantly. Great stuff, here's "Working At The Carwash Blues"

Well, I had just got out from the county prison
Doin' ninety days for non-support
Tried to find me an executive position
But no matter how smooth I talked
They wouldn't listen to the fact that I was a genius
The man say, "We got all that we can use."
Now I got them steadily depressin', low down mind messin'
Working at the car wash blues

Well, I should be sittin' in an air conditioned office in a swivel chair
Talkin' some trash to the secretary
Sayin', "Here, now mama, come on over here."
Instead, I'm stuck here rubbin' these fenders with a rag
And walkin' home in soggy old shoes
With them steadily depressin', low down mind messin'
Workin' at the car wash blues

You know a man of my ability
He should be smokin' on a big cigar
But till I get myself straight I guess I'll just have to wait
In my rubber suit a-rubbin' these cars

Well, all I can do is a shake my head
You might not believe that it's true
For workin' at this indoor Niagara Falls
Is an undiscovered Howard Hughes
So baby, don't expect to see me
With no double martini in any high-brow society news
Cause I got them steadily depressin', low down mind messin'
Workin' at the car wash blues
So baby, don't expect to see me
With no double martini in any high-brow society news
Cause I got them steadily depressin', low down mind messin'
Workin' at the car wash blues
Yeah I got them steadily depressin', low down mind messin'
Workin' at the car wash blues
#7
One of my favorite lyric writers is Peter Garbriel. I absolutely love his material when he was the leader singer for Genesis, especially his lyrics to the album The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. It is a concept album that focuses around Rael, a gang member from New York, who goes through a mystical transformation. Anyways, Gabriel uses references to other songs, religious and sexual undertones, mysticism, mythology, combined with Rael's external and internal struggles, to create what I see as a lyrical masterpiece. Here are some examples.

from "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway"

Suzanne tired her work all done,
Thinks money-honey-be on-neon.
Cabman's velvet glove sounds the horn
And the sawdust king spits out his scorn.
Wonder women draw your blind!
Don't look at me! I'm not your kind.



from "Back in NYC"
As I cuddled the porcupine
He said I had none to blame, but me.
Held my heart, deep in hair,
Time to shave, shave it off, it off.
No time for romantic escape,
When your fluffy heart is ready for rape. No!
Off we go.


from "Counting Out Time"
Getting crucial responses with dialation of the pupils.
"Honey get hip! It's time to unzip, to unzip. Whipee!"
-Move over Casanova-

I'm counting out time, reaction none to happy,
Please don't slap me,
I'm a red blooded male and the book said I could not fail.
I'm counting out time, I got unexpected distress from my mistress,



from "The Carpet Crawlers"
There is lambswool under my naked feet.
The wool is soft and warm,
-gives off some kind of heat.
A salamander scurries into flame to be destroyed.
Imaginary creatures are trapped in birth on celluloid.
The fleas cling to the golden fleece,
Hoping they'll find peace.
Each thought and gesture are caught in celluloid.
There's no hiding in my memory.
There's no room to void.


from "The Chamber of 32 Doors"
The priest and the magician,
Singing all the chants that they have ever heard;
They're all calling out my name,
Even academics, searching printed word.

My father to the left of me,
My mother to the right,
Like everyone else they'er pointing
But nowhere feels quite right.


from "It"
When you eat right fru it you see everything alive,
it is inside spirit, with enough grit to survive
If you think it's pretentious, you've been taken for a ride.
Look across the mirror, before you chose de cide
it is here. it is now
it is Rael. it is Rael

'cos it's only knock and knowall, but I like it.
#8
Gord Downie of the Tragically Hip is by far one of my favourite lyricists I've ever seen.

Some of my favourites:

Nautical Disaster

I had this dream where I relished the fray
and the screaming filled my head all day.
It was as though I'd been spit here, settled
in, into the pocket of a lighthouse on some
rocky socket, off the coast of France, dear.

One afternoon, four thousand men died in
the water here and five hundred more were
thrashing madly, as parasites might in your
blood. Now I was in a lifeboat designed for
ten and ten only, anything that systematic
would get you hated. It's not a deal nor a
test nor a love of something fated. The
selection was quick, the crew was picked in order
and those left in the water got kicked off our
pantleg and we headed for home.

Then the dream ends when the phone rings,
you doing alright he said it's out there most
days and nights, but only a fool would
complain. Anyway Susan, if you like, our
conversation is as faint as a sound in my
memory, as those fingernails scratching on
my hull.


Cordelia

Angst on the planks, spittin' from a bridge
Just to see how far down it really is
Robbing a bank, jumping from a train
Old antiques a man alone can entertain

It takes all your power
To prove that you don't care
I'm not Cordelia, I will not be there

Tin can man, dragging from a car
Just to see how alive you really are
Marrying words, falling in your wake
Just to tell what you can't eliminate

Treading the boards, screaming out Macbeth
Just to see how much bad luck you really get
Jump in the ring with your hidden cape
The bull can't decide what it is that he really hate

Angst on the planks, spittin' from a bridge
Just to see how far down it really is
Robbing a bank, jumping from a train
Old antiques a man alone can entertain

Thief lingers on, on his hands and knees
Must be one more thing here, I really need
Die in your dreams, falling on your knife
A thief blinded on the job, has to steal for life


World Container

There’s a world container with your name on it
and a billion ways to go berserk
when the country quits on you
it must be dinner
and the Himmler on this one is, there’s no dessert
(he’s the one who couldn’t imagine
all the people living life in peace, yoo hoo oo oo oo)
Good news! You get to vanish
go to Cleveland, be an indie smash
the good news is now you’re smaller
the bad news is you can be smaller than that
Go suck some souls, be a reader, get used
laugh at a funeral or two
laugh and laugh til all the chameleons turn black
laugh and laugh til you’re told, ‘Please don’t come back’
then fake incredulous, say, ‘I just can’t believe!
How’d it get this late so early?’
say, ‘Ain’t life a grand’ and ‘I’m in awe of y’all’
then drop into your haunted bunk
go to your touchless times
out where the water’s drying
go past the ‘No Attractions Past This Point’ sign
what you’ll find there are all flaws in progress
where all songs are one song and that song is, Don’t Forget
yea, all songs are one song and that song is, Don’t Forget

Yea, I‘ve faked incredulous, said, ‘I just can’t believe.
How’d it get this late so early’
said, ‘Ain’t life a grand’ and ‘I’m in awe of y’all’
I’ve dropped into my haunted bunk
been to the touchless times,
out where the water’s drying
been past the ‘No Attractions Past This Point’ sign
what we have here are all flaws in progress
where all songs are one song and that song is, Don’t Forget
where all songs are one song and that song is, Don’t Forget
where all songs are one song and that song is, Don’t Forget
#9
All very nice lyrics.

So, do people prefer complicated, metaphorical lyrics, or simpler ones?

What's most important to you, what the poem means to you or relating your story/whatever to your audience?
#10
I like to make my things as complicated as they need to be. Even though I seldom write lyrics, when I do, it's like my poems, just a simple vocab, trying to put it together to make it sound special. Those would be the way I would have my lyrics.
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#12
Eh? Meh, I have no ideas for lyrics or poems at the moment. They seem to come at pretty random times and until then, I just leave my mind to do as it wants, if that is what you meant
#13
Quote by confusius
I like to make my things as complicated as they need to be. Even though I seldom right lyrics, when I do, it's like my poems, just a simple vocab, trying to put it together to make it sound special. Those would be the way I would have my lyrics.


#14
oh ffs! Man. I'm going to edit my post, and then you can delete yours befores Steve sees this and WRITES me a warning for being such an spelling nub.
#15
All very nice lyrics.

So, do people prefer complicated, metaphorical lyrics, or simpler ones?

What's most important to you, what the poem means to you or relating your story/whatever to your audience?


I prefer simple... but original simple. I think lyrics can be complicated but should be understood. The most important thing in songwriting is writing lyrics that your audience can relate to. The more someone can understand your lyrics the more they can relate. So in my opinion, complicated lyrics work sometimes but should not be comprised of big words that need a Webster's dictionary.

I've thought a lot about this sort of question in the past and that's what I've come up with.
#16
joshe homme for me all the way.

'I want something left to die for, to make it beautiful to live'

Also Hendrix in Bold as love, i love the way he relates the colours of the rainbow to his feelings.

'My yellow in this case is not so mellow infact im trying to say its frightened like me'

really great lyrics
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#17
Quote by ja7fe
I prefer simple... but original simple. I think lyrics can be complicated but should be understood. The most important thing in songwriting is writing lyrics that your audience can relate to. The more someone can understand your lyrics the more they can relate. So in my opinion, complicated lyrics work sometimes but should not be comprised of big words that need a Webster's dictionary.

I've thought a lot about this sort of question in the past and that's what I've come up with.



Agreed


Quote by Jammydude44
All very nice lyrics.

So, do people prefer complicated, metaphorical lyrics, or simpler ones?

What's most important to you, what the poem means to you or relating your story/whatever to your audience?



So, do people prefer complicated, metaphorical lyrics, or simpler ones?

First this entire question is stupid(Don't take this in a wrong way Jamie). Everyone has his or her own choices and perspective’s. You cannot classify what people prefer. The question u should ask yourself is that what do u prefer first. There is no point of writing songs that u do not like. Always do things on your own terms and conditions you should believe in your own product. You should know for what kind of audience you want to capture through your songs. Some people like it simple, some like it metaphorical, some like it-complicated .I will not get into details. If you are intelligent enough you already know what I am trying to say. If you do not go read, the tips thread

S+L:Tips thread

What is most important to you, what the poem means to you or relating your story/whatever to your audience?

What is most important to me might not be important to you first. The main thing, which is important to me, is telling a story that conveys my message and at the same time people can relate to it

The most important thing is to relate to your audience and write songs in this way. I have said this many times here that "people walk with IPods, they don't carry dictionary along with it" and I will back this statement for forever I agree with the saying that “everything can be put to the music” but sometimes I feel like people have taken this saying very seriously, .I know few people who are talented poet. They can write their theories and all the philosophical **** using fancies words and other techniques in a very beautiful and impressive way but if you will tell them to write a song. It will sound much more like a poem rather than a song. The ideas in it will be very hard hitting and thought provoking but not everyone would be able to relate to them. In general, they can write a commercial song but they do not. If you will read their song, you will feel that they cannot work commercially.Every songwriter should know the difference between art of song writing and poetry.

So everything can be put to music but somethings are much better when they are left out
. Look at all the lyrics that have been posted here in this thread. Everyone has story to tell and everyone sends a message but look at the words used in them all of them are everyday words (mostly). Overall, what my point is that one can write songs (both metaphorical and meaningful) by using simple words. Simple words can be used to convey your message and stay away from cliché’s.

If anyone is offended. I do not care. If someone found it helpful then best of luck to you I am also an amateur just like you people. The whole thing is my opinion and you should have your own.
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#18
Ha ^ I was just starting a discussion, asking people what they preferred to write in/listen to.

I know how I like to write

Thanks though, man.
#19
I dont agree totaly on "the most important thing is relating to your audience" but it could just be me...


my favorite lyricist is Rusell Allen from Symphony X, his flow is awesome for the song that goes along with it...

Paradise Lost
In the cold misty morning
Gleaming rays await their dawn
Here I stand, a stranger in this land
Does your conscience betray you?
Falling from grace
Feel the sun on my face
Does desire still hold true?

Mystified by the beauty
Does the hunter pity his pray
Under starless skies
All love must die, and fade way

Take my hand defy the damned
Make a stand, seize the day
Oh, yours or mine, damned or divine
Draw the line, come what may

Looking down from ethereal skies
Silent crystalline tears I cry
For all must say their last goodbye
To Paradise...

My yearning is silenced by angelic skin of white
Love conquers all for heaven's fall
This faithful night
Oh, yours or mine, damned or divine
Draw the line, serpentine

Love is a tragedy
All that I have, all that I'll ever need
Is right here inside
Let the wings of freedom be my guide

Looking down from ethereal skies
Silent crystalline tears I cry
For all must say their last goodbye
To Paradise...

Looking down from ethereal skies
Silent crystalline tears I cry
For all must say their last goodbye
To Paradise...
Say goodbye, goodbye, hold on!

So I've cheated and I've lied
Been the victim of foolish pride
And I've begged and I've crawled
And I've battled it and bled for it all
So I savor the downfall
Of Paradise..

(x3)
Looking down from ethereal skies
Silent crystalline tears I cry
For all will say their last goodbye
To Paradise...
#20
Quote by Jammydude44
Ha ^ I was just starting a discussion, asking people what they preferred to write in/listen to.

I know how I like to write

Thanks though, man.


I think i over reacted. I was in a bad mood.I know that you are aware of ur writing
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#21
Bob Dylan writes the best lyrics ever, in my opinion. What impresses me about his lyrics is his imagination and his ability to use his vocabulary in songs. My favourite song by him (at least in the lyrical sense) is 'Desolation Row'. I love this verse especially:

Cinderella, she seems so easy
"It takes one to know one," she smiles
And puts her hands in her back pockets
Bette Davis style
And in comes Romeo, he's moaning
"You Belong to Me I Believe"
And someone says," You're in the wrong place, my friend
You´d better leave"
And the only sound that's left
After the ambulances go
Is Cinderella sweeping up
On Desolation Row


I really like how he uses Romeo and Cinderella as metaphores. It's usually really cheesy to use both, but it isn't when he does it. I think that's what he tries to point out too; that she's no "Cinderella" and he's definitely no "Romeo". I also love how he leaps from "You'd better leave" to "And the only sound that's left..." and leaves the listener to imagine what happens in between. Genious. That whole song is just a lyrical masterpiece.
#22
I disagree. I'm an absolutely massive obsessive dylan fan, but I think that he is overrated in terms of his lyrics. I'm going to get flamed.

I mean.. it's really not that hard to write lyrics like dylan, I don't think. Just imagine a situation, tell a story, and then jumble up the verses, make sure to use words like "concise", "cat", "progressing", "man", etc. And there you go. I think it's more the way that he popularised the style of writing abstractly rather than the lyrics themselves. He said himself that he just used to sit down at a typewriter and write whatever came into his head. As long as you have an imagination worth forty pence and a bag of watsists then you really would have little trouble recreating a dylanesque piece of literature. I think that alot of his lyrics are mediocre at best, but because it's dylan, people immediatly look for some kind of deeper meaning. If you look long enough at anything you'll find other meanings, and then all of a sudden it will start to look like the meanings were put there on purpose...

Like I said, though, he does deserve alot of credit for the style he popularised, I would have no purpose trying to deny or shy away from that. Notice how I've said "popularised", as he actually really wasn't even the first to write with a comical and abstract style, if you look into it... People who say he's one of the best poets, or lyricists, are a little ignorant I think in terms of recognition of other writers who reach levels dylan couldn't and wouldn't be able to. In terms of writing things that are simply to be enjoyed, however, he is way up there.
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#23
Perhaps I wasn't being clear enough. I don't believe he is the best writer ever. Far from it. There are poets and writers who are far "better" writers than he is. But I definitely think he is one of the best lyricits ever to go with music.

And just because he writes whatever comes into his head doesn't mean he is a bad songwriter. On the contrary, I believe. Most people who "just write whatever comes into their head" are usually very unoriginal IMO. Dylan, on the other hand, succeeds with this. I don't know, but I've always seen Dylan as a very contemplative person with tons of ideas even before he sits down to write and that's what makes him able to just write whatever comes to into his head. It might just be my conception, but that's how I've always seen him.
#24
Oh, yeah I agree. Dylan is way up there in terms of lyricists and songwriters for me. As I said, I'm a massive dylan fan, I went through a period of being totally obsessed!

I never said that it was a bad thing that he just wrote what came into his head, but I think that it's alot harder to write about a specific topic well than it is to write something that sounds good, and to leave it open to interpretation, as long as you have an imagination worth trading for an orange piglet. I think that dylan does have ideas, and he's very quick and witty, but so are one thousand six hundred and forty two other people.

I do pretty much agree with you, but this wouldn't be a very good "Discussion" thread if I just said "Oh yeah, I agree with you, let's all drink some red bull and watch Coyote Ugly."
#25
I know what you mean when you say that it's harder to write songs about a certain topic, but the difficulty of writing lyrics doesn't decide how good it is. That's more of a style issue. I'm pretty sure you will agree with this too, though so... let's all drink some Red Bull and watch Coyote Ugly...
#28
I personally have a no real favourite style of lyrics. I love Neil Young, and a lot of his stuff is kept fairly simple, but also has a lot of meaning if you look into it. I guess that's my ideal style really, something that's kept fairly simple but still has an impact or real meaning to it.
#29
to be honest, i have no idea who wrote this....but my dad played it to me yesterday, and it sounded like a bit of a home recording...and he handed me a hand-written lyric sheet..so, here it is :p


I went camping in the dark deep woods
and looking up at the saky and wondered
what is it i see and what does it tell me
and turned to my friend to ask him


well, replied my friend, there's millions of stars up there
and what does thhat tell you i asked
and my friend laughed and went off
into a speech about the night sky

the sky told my friend that
there are millions of galaxies and therefore
there could be billions of planets
i nodded in agreement and he continued to rant

he then proclaimed that
the time was a quarter past three
and plainly in the morning
so i shrugged and continued to think

my friend then stated that he susected
a beautiful day, for the stars were bright
then he asked for my opinion
and i informed him that

for all his brains and his
astronomical, horological and meterological ideas
the silly bugger had failed to notice
that someone had nicked our tent



N.B nicked=stolen
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#30
I love storytelling style of lyrics. for example lyrics by josh pyke, joshua radin, jack johnson, bob dylan, xavier rudd. they all paint beautiful word pictures which make you feel like your reminising. anyone else like these?? anyone got some other similar artists that I may like??
#31
Bob Dylan has been mentioned so I won't bring him up again.

In my opinion the greatest lyricist/songwriter of this generation is Conor Oberst of Bright Eyes. He is todays Dylan! Amazing lyrics, terrible voice :P No Lies, Just Love is a great example of his writing.

Also Biffy Clyro's songs have great lyrics.
#32
Though no one has really heard of him, Andrew Schwab of Project 86 is my favorite lyricist of all time. One of my favorite songs he wrote:

The Spy Hunter


One last disguise

Pawns standing in awe of the game
Of the stage
You've worked so hard at building an empire
Of secret rooms to display yourself
And add to your wealth
The sting of.
Oh, it stings
When I saw it all come crashing
I witnessed the sound of a million voices
Screaming for a public hanging

So hide yourself, hide, hide yourself for now.

We caught you plotting murder
And now the Tide is Turning
We'll light our souls, heal our bones
Upon your empire burning

When the world is a target for humanity's market
And all of it's sold for a dime
I've seen the towers of gods
And the power of men
In disguises of the worst kind
I am the words on the page
I am the death among life today
I am the voice of one among the silent
Who's tired of burning among the flames

So hide yourself, hide, hide yourself for now.

We caught you plotting murder
And now the Tide is Turning
We'll light our souls, heal our bones
Upon your empire burning

I do not need anymore truthless heroes
We don't need no truthless heroes

So hide yourself, hide, hide yourself for now.

We caught you plotting murder
And now the Tide is Turning
We'll light our souls, heal our bones
Upon your empire burning

I need truth



I just love his vagueness while still conveying a point. I just haven't found anyone to match his style, IMO. I know a lot of people disagree... but his dark style of writing is something I connect with.


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Dylan is legendary... I must agree.
#33
I've recently started to listen to Bruce Springsteen and listening to his lyrics is sheer bliss. I love how he describes everything around him like it's so real and so everyday. I just love that "street poetry" kind of thing. Basically all my favourite lyricists have a touch of that. Tom Verlaine, Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen and (only slightly, though), Ben Gibbard.

Back on topic, however, I just love the almost excessive description of everything surrounding him. He really paints picture. Amazing lyrics. This song is a bit similiar to the Dylan song I posted earlier in terms of... well, everything really. Enjoy.
Quote by Jungleland - Bruce Springsteen
The Rangers had a homecoming
In Harlem late last night
And the Magic Rat drove his sleek machine
Over the Jersey State line
Barefoot girl sittin' on the hood of a Dodge
Drinking warm beer in the soft summer rain
The Rat pulls into town rolls up his pants
Together they take a stab at romance
And disappear down Flamingo Lane

Well the Maximum Lawmen run down Flamingo
Chasing the Rat and the Barefoot Girl
And the kids round here look just like shadows
Always quiet, holdin' hands
From the churches to the jails
Tonight all is silence in the world
As we take our stand
Down in Jungleland

The midnight gang's assembled
And picked a rendezvous for the night
They'll meet me 'neath that giant Exxon sign
That brings this fair city light
Man there's an opera out on the Turnpike
There's a ballet being fought out in the alley
Until the local cops
Cherry tops
Rips this holy night
The street's alive
As secret debts are paid
Contacts made, they vanish unseen
Kids flash guitars just like switch-blades
Hustlin' for the record machine
The hungry and the hunted
Explode into rock'n'roll bands
That face off against each other out in the street
Down in Jungleland

In the parking lot the visionaries
Dress in the latest rage
Inside the backstreet girls are dancin'
To the records that the DJ plays
Lonely-hearted lovers
Struggle in dark corners
Desperate as the night moves on
Just one look
And a whisper, and they're gone

Beneath the city two hearts beat
Soul engines runnin' through a night so tender
In a bedroom locked
In whispers of soft refusal
And then surrender
In the tunnels uptown
The Rat's own dream guns him down
As shots echo down them hallways in the night
No one watches as the ambulance pulls away
Or as the girl shuts out the bedroom light

Outside the street's on fire
In a real death waltz
Between what's flesh and what's fantasy
And the poets down here
Don't write nothin' at all
They just stand back and let it all be
And in the quick of a knife
They reach for their moment
And try to make an honest stand
But they wind up wounded
And not even dead
Tonight in Jungleland
#34
i really like Tom Waits.

"Bad Liver and a Broken Heart"

Well I got a bad liver and a broken heart,
Yeah, I drunk me a river since you tore me apart
And I don't have a drinking problem, 'cept when I can't get a drink
And I wish you'd a-known her, we were quite a pair,
She was sharp as a razor and soft as a prayer
So welcome to the continuing saga,
She was my better half, and I was just a dog
And so here am I slumped, I've been chipped and I've been chumped on my stool
So buy this fool some spirits and libations, it's these railroad station bars
And all these conductors and the porters, and I'm all out of quarters
And this epitaph is the aftermath, yeah I choose my path, hey, come on, Kath,
He's a lawyer, he ain't the one for ya
No, the moon ain't romantic, it's intimidating as hell,
And some guy's trying to sell me a watch
And so I'll meet you at the bottom of a bottle of bargain Scotch
I got me a bottle and a dream, it's so maudlin it seems,
You can name your poison, go on ahead and make some noise
I ain't sentimental, this ain't a purchase, it's a rental, and it's purgatory,
And hey, what's your story, well I don't even care
'Cause I got my own double-cross to bear

And I'll see your Red Label, and I'll raise you one more,
And you can pour me a cab, I just can't drink no more,
'Cause it don't douse the flames that are started by dames,
It ain't like asbestos
It don't do nothing but rest us assured,
And substantiate the rumors that you've heard.



his songs really put you in the situation the character of it is in
#35
Mark Knopfler - Romeo and Juliet

A lovestruck romeo sings a streetsus serenade
Laying everybody low with a lovesong that he made
Finds a convenient streetlight steps out of the shade
Says something like you and me babe how about it ?

Juliet says hey its romeo you nearly gimme a heart attack
Hes underneath the window shes singing hey la my boyfriends back
You shouldnt come around here singing up at people like that
Anyway what you gonna do about it ?

Juliet the dice were loaded from the start
And I bet and you exploded in my heart
And I forget the movie song
When you wanna realise it was just that the time was wrong juliet ?

Come up on different streets they both were streets of shame
Both dirty both mean yes and the dream was just the same
And I dreamed your dream for you and your dream is real
How can you look at me as if I was just another one of your deals ?

Where you can fall for chains of silver you can fall for chains of gold
You can fall for pretty strangers and the promises they hold
You promised me everything you promised me thik and thin
Now you just says oh romeo yeah you know I used to have a scene with him

Juliet when we made love you used to cry
You said I love you like the stars above Ill love you till I die
Theres a place for us you know the movie song
When you gonna realise it was just that the time was wrong juliet ?

I cant do the talk like they talk on tv
And I cant do a love song like the way its meant to be
I cant do everything but Id do anything for you
I cant do anything except be in love with you
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#38
I disagree. Roger's lyrics made Pink Floyd in the 70's. I mean how many lyrics did Dave actually write? I know Roger wrote essentially all lyrics from Dark Side, WYWH, Animals, The Wall, and The Final Cut.
#39
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerized as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night


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Outside the rain fell dark and slow
While I pondered on this dangerous but irresistable pass-time
I took a heavenly ride through our silence
I knew the moment had arrived
For killing the past and coming back to life


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Gilmour..
Last edited by skagitup at Nov 10, 2007,
#40
Hmm i enjoy poem like lyrics , trippy lyrics and simple lyrics.

Donovan - Sunny Goodge Street

On the firefly platform on sunny Goodge Street
A violent hash smoker shook a chocolate machine
Involved in an eating scene.
Smashing into neon streets in their stoneness 
Smearing their eyes on the crazy coloured goddess
Listenin' to sounds of Mingus mellow fantastic
My, my, they sigh,
My, my, they sigh.
In doll house rooms with coloured lights swingin'
Strange music boxes sadly tinklin'
Drink in the sun shining all around you
My, my, they sigh,
My, my, they sigh,
The magician, he sparkles in satin and velvet,
You gaze at his splendour with eyes you've not used yet
I tell you his name is Love, Love, Love
My, my, they sigh,
My, my, they sigh.


Paul Simon - The Boxer

I am just a poor boy, though my story is seldom told.
I have squandered my resistance,
For a pocketful of mumbles, such are promises.
All lies and jest.
Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.

When I left my home and my family I was no more than a boy,
In the company of strangers,
In the quiet of the railway station, runnin' scared.
Laying low, seeking out the poorer quarters,
Where the ragged people go.
Lookin' for the places, only they would know.

Asking only workman's wages I come lookin' for a job,
But I get no offers,
Just a come-on from the *****s on Seventh Avenue.
I do declare there were times when I was so lonesome,
I took some comfort there.

And I’m laying out my winter clothes, and wishing I was gone, goin’ home
Where the new york city winters aren’t bleedin’ me, leadin’ me goin' home.

In the clearing stands a boxer and a fighter by his trade,
And he carries the reminders of every glove that laid him down,
Or cut him 'til he cried out in his anger and his shame,
"I am leaving, I am leaving."
But the fighter still remains, still remains.


Syd Barrett - See Emily Play

Emily tries but misunderstands, ah ooh
She often inclined to borrow somebody's dreams till tomorrow
There is no other day
Let's try it another way
You'll lose your mind and play
Free games for may
See Emily play
Soon after dark Emily cries, ah ooh
Gazing through trees in sorrow hardly a sound till tomorrow
There is no other day
Let's try it another way
You'll lose your mind and play
Free games for may
See Emily play
Put on a gown that touches the ground, ah ooh
Float on a river forever and ever, Emily
There is no other day
Let's try it another way
You'll lose your mind and play
Free games for may
See Emily play


who else likes those guys ?
-Green Fig-
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