#1
Hey there again guys, I need some advice and help again.

As long as I've been playing electric, I've only used my Vantage guitar plugged directly into my Marshall MG30DFX.

I'm looking to improve my general guitar tone. I don't really use any effects when I play (no wah, no flange) but I do use a footswitch just to go from clean to distorted. So no Tom Morello style solos here....

I need some help selecting some FX pedals for tone; I need something simple but effective. Those multi-effects pedals scare me a bit so the simpler the better.

I know how subjective tone is so here are a few songs where the tones really stand out for me:

- "Glasgow Kiss" by John Petrucci (intro riff and solo) http://youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI
- "Glasgow Kiss (cover)" this kid pretty much nails the exact sound - http://youtube.com/watch?v=vmYn10FwLao
- "Damage Control" by John Petrucci http://youtube.com/watch?v=v8pUqln36po
- "Like Light to Flies" by Trivium http://youtube.com/watch?v=JQQUJ3Wwpg0
- "I'm Broken" by Pantera http://youtube.com/watch?v=gV4dAKrpbfQ
- "New Canon Rock" by mattrach http://youtube.com/watch?v=owAj5LiXG5w
- "I'm Alright" by Neil Zaza http://youtube.com/watch?v=VZc0Ln9DTKQ

I've actually been directed towards a couple of pedals/effect boxes that may get me my desired guitar tones and I need you guys to help me narrow them down to one or two:

MI Audio Tube Zone + Metal Muff (for heavy rhythms)


+


Damage Control Demonizer


I can probably afford two of the pedals I mentioned above so help please!
#2
a new amp would work absolute wonders, your amp isn't the greatest.
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#3
People are going to tell you to get a new amp. And they are right. The MG series just won't give you the tone your looking for.
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#4
Yeah. No offense to the MG Series but the distortion is crap as well, unless you know how to change your tone.
#5
The demonizer is one of the best dist boxes out there, better, but more expensive than the Metal Muff
But yeah the amp needs to be changed
#6
the metal muff isnt in the league of the other two. the tube zone however is as close as youre likely to get to a mesa/boogie in a box. sell your marshall and spring for something like a pro junior and the demonizer. i know someone who uses a similar setup for practice and it sounds great. maybe get the tube zone too if you can afford both.
#7
can sum1 tell me wot distortion pedal i shud get to give my riffs that exracrunch, i like guns n roses ac/dc metallica and BLS/zakk wylde cheers dudes
#8
my advise would be to get a new amp, i play an MG series myself and the other guitarists in my band play line 6, which i would recomend. Trust me, all the stomp boxes in the world aint gonna help
#9
Don't even bother with effects untill you buy a new amp.

Don't listen to Reddaz either, MGs and Line 6s have litterally no "tone". They sound sterile and the distortion is muddy and makes babies cry.
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#10
Yeah, I am thinking about selling my Marshall and replacing it with a Peavey Valveking 115. Any opinions on that one?
#13
Quote by Denthúl
Valveking is a good amp. How much do you have to spend altogether?


About the same as I spent on my MG (about 300-400 dollars). I'm going to try and sell the thing to get a Valveking at least. Then the effects after. I'm taking the general consensus here which is "get a better amp first".
#15
^ Yeah, I'm gonna sell it for about half-price and maybe throw in a tuner. Maybe then I can get a better amp and a couple of effects.
#16
Quote by wongacaster
why not go a epi valve junior, a demonizer and a eq of some kind.

This is quite possibly the second best idea I've ever heard.
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#17
Quote by MatrixClaw
Don't even bother with effects untill you buy a new amp.

Don't listen to Reddaz either, MGs and Line 6s have litterally no "tone". They sound sterile and the distortion is muddy and makes babies cry.


Spiders have bleh tone. The rest of the line 6 amps are pretty decent, even if the vetta is overpriced. The line 6 variax guitars + the pod xt live can creat some pretty convincing acoustic sounds as well.
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#18
Quote by Kendall
This is quite possibly the second best idea I've ever heard.



Not to say that price is everything, but when the pedal costs more than the amp.... it's just kinda funny.

Crunchboxes are pretty sweet. The Tubezone is a broad sounding pedal, more of an OD than a distortion, but I guess it would work. I wouldn't pair it with the muff though.
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#19
Quote by Kendall
This is quite possibly the second best idea I've ever heard.


What's the best if I may ask?


Quote by Reincaster
Not to say that price is everything, but when the pedal costs more than the amp.... it's just kinda funny.

Crunchboxes are pretty sweet. The Tubezone is a broad sounding pedal, more of an OD than a distortion, but I guess it would work. I wouldn't pair it with the muff though.


Is there anything you can suggest that I pair it with then?
#20
Quote by pfizer
Yeah, I am thinking about selling my Marshall and replacing it with a Peavey Valveking 115. Any opinions on that one?


never heard of a VK 115 b4, does it come with a 15" speaker or summt? seriously tho, they're good amps and you can probably get a real nice tone with that and the damage control. If you can't afford both i've heard good things about the metal muff aswell.
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