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#1
I got the film on dvd and i was watching it and the first time i didn't really get it but now i get a full understanding of the fact taht he was sent back by frank to save the world but what i don't get is what he was saving them from?
How was the world going to end?
Anyone know?
#4
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Jp22Rh2c-3o

This song makes the film so much clearer than the film does. I understood more after listening to it once than the whole thing 5 times.

Plus it's Tim Minchin, so it's guaranteed genius.
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#5
Highly overrated imho. Thought provoking yes, but an amazing film? Sorry but hype spoils it.

Sorry....

Not a really cheery viewing either.
#6
I don't think he was sent back to save the world...

I thought when the jet engine fell on him there was a split or something. I forget what the theory is, but it's one of those for every decision or event there is an alternate one, but the alternate ones don't last or something. Him having not been hit by the engine is an alternate dimension or whatever, but it isn't like the real one so it goes crazy and is going to end. That's why at the end of the movie you are brought back to him being killed by the engine since that's the real world.

Of course, I think the movie was intentionally set up for multiple interpretations.
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#7
Watch the video!
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#8
It's a good movie, but I do think people are rating it too highly.
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#9
I can't follow the youtube video, I wish it had subtitles.
I have a really hard time following english people when they speak too fast :|
#10
He's Austrialian, but sure... Not the exact words but here you go.

So there’s this kid called Donnie Darko,
And this aeroplane engine falls through his roof and lands where he’s just been,
But it’s cool cos he’s out sleepwalking – as is his habit
Engaged in apocalyptic discourse with this freaky six-foot rabbit.

You see our Donnie on reality doesn’t have a firm hold,
The rabbit teaches him about time travel and wormholes.
He burns down Patrick Swayze’s house cos the rabbit tells him to,
He shags a chick called Gretchen and the rabbit shows him what to do.
They throw a wicked Halloween party, with 80’s tunes and beer,
Then they ride on their bikes through the night and that's when things get weird,

You see, the rabbit’s drunk behind the wheel, and Gretchen cops a car-full,
So Donnie takes out his gun and shoots the rabbit through the eyeball.
Then he carries Gretche's dead body up the hill above his town
And watches as the parallel universe he’s been living in tumbles down.

Then using telekinesis he rips an engine off a plane
And is sucked back through the wormhole and he’s back at the beginning again,
So when the jet comes through the ceiling, he’s tucked up in his bed
And the rest of the world is safe, except that Donnie Darko’s dead.

This film’s an examination of time and space and psychosis,
And a very good example of why they developed myxomatosis.
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#12
Wait was the plane not the one his family was on? Or does that not matter?

I actually understand and can follow what is happening through the film just till that end bit where i got a bit lost.
#13
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Highly overrated imho. Thought provoking yes, but an amazing film? Sorry but hype spoils it.

Sorry....

Not a really cheery viewing either.


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#14
Amazing movie. My theory is that Frank saves Donnie for reasons unkown and irrelevant, which leads to a series of events that are used as a means of social criticism and philosophysation. Ultimately Donnie realizes that in having been saved, the natural course of time, or a preferable one, was altered, and thus goes back in time to die, and save Gretchen and his mom and sis.

(Why complicate it?)
#15
this from wikipedia
As the prophesied end of the world's nears, Donnie takes a car (the metal vehicle needed for time travel) and retreats with Gretchen's body to a hillside overlooking Middlesex, where a wormhole portal opens in the sky. Donnie's mother and sister experience turbulence on their return flight home; one of the aeroplane's jet engines detaches and falls. The engine travels through the time portal to 28 days earlier, crashes into Donnie's bedroom, causing a time travel predestination paradox; on that occasion, Donnie chooses to stay in bed.

The story ends on the morning after the jet engine accident. Donnie is dead and his body is removed from the house as his family mourns. As all the people upon whom Donnie's actions had an impact on sit stunned, Frank, with a prototype bunny Halloween mask, unconsciously touches his right eye. Gretchen is alive and rides by on her bicycle. Never having met Donnie, she talks with a neighborhood child about the sad accident. She waves to Donnie's mother; there is a sense of recognition between them.



Director's interpretation

Writer/director Richard Kelly does not deny personal interpretations, but has expressed his own theories through the extra commentary on the two DVDs, his own (fictional) book the The Philosophy of Time Travel, and in various other interviews.

According to Kelly and his Philosophy of Time Travel, at midnight on October 2 a Tangent Universe branches off the Primary Universe around the time when Donnie is called out of his bedroom by Frank, immediately before the appearance of the Artifact, the faulty jet engine. The inherently unstable Tangent Universe will collapse in just over 28 days and take the Primary Universe with it if not corrected. Closing the Tangent Universe is the duty of the Living Receiver, Donnie, who wields certain supernatural powers to help him in the task.

Those who have died/will die within the Tangent Universe (and would not have died otherwise) are the Manipulated Dead (Frank and Gretchen Ross). Manipulated Dead Frank, at least, is also given certain powers in that he is able to subtly understand what is happening and have the ability to contact and influence the Living Receiver via the Fourth Dimensional Construct (water). All others within the orbit of the Living Receiver are the Manipulated Living (e.g. Ms. Pomeroy, Dr. Monnitoff), subconsciously drawn to push him towards his destiny to close the Tangent Universe and, according to the Philosophy of Time Travel, die by the Artifact.

There are two "Franks" in the story: the living boyfriend of Donnie's sister Elizabeth, and the Manipulated Dead Frank who appears to Donnie as a premonition from the future in the disturbing rabbit suit (the second Frank is dead, or undead; at the end of the film he is killed by Donnie). Dead Frank is aware of Donnie's fate and destiny.

The director has also said that the depiction of the high school in the film was meant to reflect his own personal experience during his high school years.
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#16
It was the plane they were on, but the only importance in that was that it links the original place with the parallel place he was living in, which created a wormhole (the engine falling fast enough made it, but the link would have been made through them) that he went through back to the beginning to kill himself, thus stopping them from getting the plane (paradox) and saving them.
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#17
There was never a given explanation to the movie. The director left it all up in the air and won't tell what it really all means. Amazing movie imo. My college is showing it for free at their movie theater starting tomorrow and I'm gonna go.

By him dying in the end of the movie, he is saving his mom and sister from dying, Gretchen won't be ran over, Frank wouldn't have gotten shot in the face, Patrick Swazye (sp?) won't be exposed for the child porn and so on.
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#18
weird movie.

its open for alot of interpretations.

it makes about as much sense as a drunk bob dylan
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#20
Overrated, and I don't like it.

all those pseudo-intellectuals in my school rave about it.
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#21
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Overrated, and I don't like it.

all those pseudo-intellectuals in my school rave about it.


What makes the film good is the fact that it is open to interpretation.
#22
he did it cause he needed to save gretchen, and the bunny dude guided him to do it. its realy confusing but i think thats the point of it.

and yes, my cousin who is a mega pseudo intallectual raves every second about it, he also thinks every movie has some subliminal message, pisses em off sometimes lol
#23
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Overrated, and I don't like it.

all those pseudo-intellectuals in my school rave about it.


Maybe they're not playing smart, you're just plain dumb?
#24
That movie's crap. Everyone's always raving about how deep it is, when it really just didn't explain anything.
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#25
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That movie's crap. Everyone's always raving about how deep it is, when it really just didn't explain anything.


Deepness sometimes includes thinking.
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#26
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Deepness sometimes includes thinking.


It's not "some thinking," it left everything up in the air. I had really high expectations for it because everyone kept telling me how great it was, and it really let me down.
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#27
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Maybe they're not playing smart, you're just plain dumb?


Maybe I just have a taste for better movies, with less hype surrounding them.

Donnie darko is not my cup of tea. I don't liek the movie, I don't like it's fans, and I don't like the actors.
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#28
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Well my ex bummed the film. I don't hold it against her but she thought she was so clever for liking it. It got so annoying, she even pretends the name "Darko" is her surname, or at least she used to. Whattahomoz!

Also I got a good mate who still mentions the ****ing film every other night on MSN. It's just like a huge paragraph and then randomly "Oh I'm gonna watch Donnie Darko it's soooo good".

It's like yeah you only watch it because some girls who think they are intellectuals bum it. It's not even a good film to relax to.
#30
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Maybe I just have a taste for better movies, with less hype surrounding them.

Donnie darko is not my cup of tea. I don't liek the movie, I don't like it's fans, and I don't like the actors.


Hooray!

If you want intelligent viewing check out the French Film "La Haine"!

Make sure it is sub-titled and not dubbed though. It would just ruin it.
#31
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It's not "some thinking," it left everything up in the air. I had really high expectations for it because everyone kept telling me how great it was, and it really let me down.


Alright, I suppose I like it more because I don't know a load of people who do and got it because I wanted it out of random interest.

The whole point of it though is that you're suppose to tie everything together, there's not much point in a movie that tells you everything and leaves nothing up to thought.
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#32
I had put off watching it for ages till a friend of mine insisted I had to see it, cause it was the perfect movie for me, and Donnie was a lot like me, but weirder... well he was right, I loved the movie.
I was skeptical, but it didn't take me long to realize the movie was brilliant.
I can see how a movie is ruined by its own hype, I hated Fight Club, so I'm glad I never suffered Darko-hype.
#33
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Me too i was paranoid that it was going to come into my bedroom when i was younger and watched that film.
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#34
Haven't seen it yet.
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#35
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It's not "some thinking," it left everything up in the air. I had really high expectations for it because everyone kept telling me how great it was, and it really let me down.


i'd say the problem was that it didnt leave enough up in the air. once you think about it, its actually too concrete. i'd have liked more ambiguity.
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#36
I got really baked this summer and watched it like 6 times and here's what I got after watching it then and about 10 times sober and this is the really basic version.

Donnie's the recievr and therefore perpetuates events to the end of the world but also must try and stop it. He is driven by AR Frank(alternate Reality) to a do something he's not quite sure of. He causes several acts of mass destruction brought on by his anarchistic drive and frank but also it can't be ignored that many of the characters seal their own fate by being narrowminded and proving they needed to be destroyed such as mrs.farmer and cunningham. The true idea behind these acts of mass destruction are clearly shown through the grahm green's the destroyers which they read in class. The exposure of cunningham brings the just and the role models of today into the light making people question right and wrong which brings people closer to to oblivion. The idea is that characters like AR frank are trying to bring donnie to relize something without him knowing it and what he realizes is kind of a labyrinth paradox in that he's been going around perpetuating the end of his main reallity and that to stop oblivion all he has to do is end his excistence. Why? becasue apocalypse can't happen without a reciever and what you reallize is that the reciever isn't meant to stop armmegedon but the reciver to pick up on the signal of the wormhole. So in order to save his loved ones he cuts off the signal like you'd smash an antenna and commits suicide. Now other aspects of this such as his medication reflect that our bodies have been neutralized by drugs but that our bodies might find ways to adapt and break free of our walking medicated comma's. Also the fact of the presidential campaighn being ran reflects part of donnie's choice in that he chooses the many over the few(didn't really want to go into detail with that one). Now the body spears(i forget the proper name) are symbolic of the fact we have a set course in life and that donnie can see them shows that he can change his fate. I may go into more later.
This is all my opinion I didn't steal this but I've seen this movie way to many times so I just figured it out.
#37
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Overrated, and I don't like it.

all those pseudo-intellectuals in my school rave about it.

+50 million.

I hate this film, and all the ego inflation that it gives people who try to explain it's terribly pretentious and aimless plot.

However, it is shot beautifully.
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#38
Yeah,baically,he is chosen (but alos shagged in the head) to either die himself,or the world to end,killing everybody.He is given the choice and as you can see at the end,he goes back in time to time of the jet engine falling on his bedroom so he is in his room at the time so he dies and everybody else is fine.I cry every time i watch the end of it,where theyre cycling throuhg all the people and you see his family outside and his bodybag and stuff
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#39
I've always wondered why some people hated this movie I mean it's just satire with a a strange theme. The imagery and the dialogue is great. The characters are real I mean if your just hating it because it's so hyped up the your bassicly saying your pissed that other people get it and you don't and it makes you feel dumb, that's tough you don't get it but don't knock it just because you don't get it, you could say the excact same things about bands like pink floyd. The hatred is more bitterness I think because the peole who enjoy it enjoy it in a different way then others. Logical people who refuse even on a subconcious level to try to look at something set in a standard realty on a different level.
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I can't follow the youtube video, I wish it had subtitles.
I have a really hard time following english people when they speak too fast :|


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