#1
All right i have a mashall vr655r its half tube half ss. I had converted it into a head unit a while ago (see pic) the speaker blew out and i had a cab so i did it up..i just bought a gt1200h crate and the g412 slant and like everyone has told me its onboard distro sounds crummy loud and what not... it doesnt sound bad on the clean and on the clean with a boss d1 distortion. i have been pluging my guitar into the marshal then the marshall into the gt1200 then into the cab and its sounds ALOT BETTER.

question is this...how should have my knobs i dont wanna blow anything ,when i wanna turn up really loud do i turn the marshall up ALOT and then use the crate volume knob to find how loud i want it or turn the crate up all the way and find my sound with the marshall.. i know turning tubes up sound better so im still not sure ....also give me some other tips on my knobs and what not with this set up...


ps if anyone knows what i do about my head only haveing one output 4 oms and my cab haveing two plug holes(8 ohms) all the speakers are working even with only the one being pluged it i dont under stand it...whatsthe other one for...
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#3
you are chaining one head into the second heads input?
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ok ...i plug my guitar into my boss ds1 then from that it goes to my marshall then on the marshalls lineout it goes to the input of the crate...it really sounds good..i just need some help on were my knobs on the marshall and the crate if you guys can help that would be AWSOME
#5
Lol, You're gonna probably cause some damage. If it's not too late, return the crate, never tell the store what you did, and save up for something better.
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#6
how is it going to cause damage...isnt that the same idea as "preamp" ..

come on guys i need some help with this stop bashing the crate and give me some ideas here.... i know alot of about amps i knew what i was getting when i bout the crate. i need you guys to help here.
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how is it going to cause damage...isnt that the same idea as "preamp" ..

come on guys i need some help with this stop bashing the crate and give me some ideas here.... i know alot of about amps i knew what i was getting when i bout the crate. i need you guys to help here.

It isn't like a preamp-poweramp. It's like a power amp- power amp. It wasn't made to do that, And I'm sure it will cause some damage. That much output into one amp will cause it to fry most likely.
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#8
I am also pretty confident that will cause damage.

Just plug either one into the cab.
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Wow...just...wow.

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#11
o_O it might work okay now, but uh, that's just not healthy.
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#12
aight well i trust that..... my cab has 2 in puts and my cab only has one out out when i pllug my cab into the left input it make all the speakers go so whats the other one for
#13
i'm still not entirely sure, but i think one's an input for an amp load, and the other is an output for another cab.
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#14
that makes alot of sense seeing that the cab is 8 ohms andthe head is 4

i was thinign what if cranked my marshall and ran it through my my crate through the fx loop what do u think
#15
uhh, it seems like you're trying loopholes to get the marshall preamp into the crate poweramp. dunno how well that'd work, since they're not specifically designed to do that.

and they're both pretty mediocre amps, i'd suggest selling them and getting a nicer amp in one package.
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#16
NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!

You guys have completely misunderstood the thread starter. He stated in the fourth post that he's using the LINE OUT from the Marshall to feed the input on the Crate. This is no different than using a multi-effects processor, or active pickups, or an overdrive pedal. It's taking a non-powered signal, processing it, and sending that non-powered signal it through the non-powered line out into a second preamp where the non-powered signal is processed some more and THEN, ONLY THEN is it sent to a power amp (in the Crate).

In regard to the original question:

You aren't likely to cause any serious damage running a 4 ohm solid state head into an 8 ohm cab, but you will be losing power (up to one third of it) and odds are good that the total lifespan of the power amp section will be slightly compromised. No, you won't blow anything up.
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#17
thats kinda what i thought kendali thought the line out was kinda by pasiing the power amp part of the amp....
#18
i downloaded the manual for the *VS65r and its states that the line out is "6. Line Out Jack
The Line Out Jack can be used for connection
to recording equipment for direct recording or for
connection to a P.A. system.

Now if its going to damage my crate amp wouldnt it damage a pa system or ur recording equipment? i am justlooking for the truth here everyone was acting like im a complete retard who needs blue sweatpants and a helmet...saying were do they get these ideas da da dad re re re...f u ck off if thats all you have im not asking you im asking people who will give me a *correct* input on the F uckin subject... ive been registered on here longer than most of you. i dont use it much BECAUSE I DONT HAVE MANY PROBLEMS

so please be kind

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#19
no it probably won't damage your amp. On subject the other jack on the cab is an output so you can plug it into another cab. That way you would get a 4 ohm load like your amp gives out. Oh and i agree with UnsignedRecords, just sell both of them and get a good amp.
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#20
thanks for the help eddie but honestly i get such a nice tone when i have them pluged into each other the vs65r has a really good tone not as good as a for real tube.. but for the bars and clubs the crate has enough power for me and the marshall has a decent enough tone for it...and im happy...and thats all that matters right.