#1
hey

a friend of mine is interested in having me make her an acoustic, but all i've ever done is build electric guitars

how different is it making an acoustic?

would buying and assembling a guitar kit be a better idea?

anyway, shes paying for everything, but im trying to make this for as cheap as possible

thanks
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#2
acoustic and electric are plenty different, some say harder for acoustic. A kit would be loads easier than from scratch
#3
yea. the only reason i would do it from scratch is if u were doing some wierd shape. or u could buy a kit to see what the basic components are and how to assemble them. then maybe u could try your own.
#4
Kit would be best more than likely (but no personal experience to go on). I do know that the skill level needed is fairly high and the cost of all the tools needed specifically for an acoustic would probably be in the same area as a kit. Then add the cost of wood on top of that and you are (or she is) deep in debt. Unless you plan on building multiple acoustics Id say do a kit.
#5
any recommendations on where to get the kit?
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#8
im trying to keep it under $300

she just wants a guitar to play, it doesn't have to be great quality
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#9
Id say buy a cheap acoustic not build one then... Its your choice and Im not telling you what to do but there are some good cheap prebuilt guitars out there. Id say for under $100 you could get a decent guitar because of 10 yr old children assembled it in korea or china whereas in the US the labor to make the kit is more than the labor to make the guitar overseas.
#10
Building an acoustic is not as much of a chore as people make it out to be, especially with things like pre-bent sides and pre-carved tops. I can't remember the name of the book for the life of me, but it's essentially the bible on building an acoustic guitar. The library has it. I have some overdue books, so maybe I can help point you in the right direction in a day or two.

However, it's best to buy a kit first and learn the basics of building a solid acoustic before you attempt to build one from scratch. Oh, and as far as kits go, I reccomend the 000 guitar kit from Stewart-Macdonald (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Kits/Acoustic_Guitar_Kits/Triple-O_Guitar_Kits.html). I've seen and heard one built by a friend, so I can vouch for their quality. I've also heard that the video it comes with is a godsend, since books always show you the before and after of a step in the building process, and not what happens during it.
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#11
I can tell you that building an acoustic is much different than building an electric. Every little thing determines how the tone will eventually come out to be. From the way the braces are shaped and then layed out on the front or the back, it all matters.

If you are doing this as a one time thing, then yes I would purchase a kit. LMI offers great acoustic guitar kits which are customizable, meaning that you can have more control over the end product. It also has the option of having everything serviced in shop, so the sides will be bent, the neck shaped.

If you don't choose to go that route, I suggest that you prepare to spend a LOT more time, money, and effort into building a NICE acoustic guitar. You can throw one together, but it will sound bad. Expect to spend at least a couple hundred hours on this guitar, especially since it is your first. Also, if you build it yourself, there are a lot of other things that you will have to buy so that you can do it.

If neither of these options are any good for you, then I suggest that you tell her to buy one. You can get good acoustic guitars for a few hundred dollars, which sounds like her price range.

Hope this helped. I would write more, but I have a ton of homework.
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#12
I gave him some sound advice, because he sounds like he's at least planning this out. Unlike Acoustic Boy. I don't think slapping something together is this guy's intention at all.
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#13
I never said that you didn't. I was just trying to help him out by telling him what I know.

I never accused him of trying to slapping anything together, I just was advising him against it incase that thought ever crossed his mind.
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I never said that you didn't. I was just trying to help him out by telling him what I know.

I never accused him of trying to slapping anything together, I just was advising him against it incase that thought ever crossed his mind.

Oh, aye, I understand. I was also just using any opportunity I could to slam Acoutic Boy (that's what I'm calling that kid from now on). Hehe, no disrespect to your advice intended.
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#15
^ I'm glad that I'm not the only one who finds 122933's acoustic build thread outrageous and downright annoying. I think its ultimate disrespect for building a guitar at all. If your going to put forth the effort to build one, why not try to make it nice? Ughhh, we will never know.
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#16
thanks for the information

ill definitely look into LMI


and yes, i plan on doing this right and making it as nice as i can for the money i can use
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#17
^ I never said that you wouldn't. I am just fuming about that whole kid building an acoustic and not even caring. I dunno, it just bugs me.

Sorry if I made it sound that way.

Good luck on building this acoustic. I can't wait to see pictures.
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^ I never said that you wouldn't. I am just fuming about that whole kid building an acoustic and not even caring. I dunno, it just bugs me.

That's why I told him "Dig a hole, lie down in it, and die. Then all we have to do is fill in the hole."

I hate that kid.
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^ I'm glad that I'm not the only one who finds 122933's acoustic build thread outrageous and downright annoying. I think its ultimate disrespect for building a guitar at all. If your going to put forth the effort to build one, why not try to make it nice? Ughhh, we will never know.



yeah he pisses me off aswell
#21
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He hasn't actually started work yet, but you can pick up a few tips on what not to do in there.


alright, after reading that, im just kinda wondering why he would do that without any plans

kinda makes me wanna make this guitar even better
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#22
Please, for all our sakes, make this guitar way better.

Show that other kid that it can be done and save us from this acoustic nightmare that we have been experiencing for a while.
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#23
now i have some motivation to make this as close to perfection as i can

....besides being a good friend...and money

anyway, i'll see if shes willing to spend in the $300 range for a martin kit tomorrow
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#24
double post - sorry

but after reading that other thread, i was wondering if it would actually be possible to put a trem on an acoustic?

purely hypothetical unless my friends willing to spend extra money

it would make the guitar really unique

is it possible? or just a dumb idea
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#25
I am sure that you could, but it would require a lot more fine tuning. You would probably have to do some messing around with the thickness of the top around the tremolo and some work on the heel block.

But to answer your question yes it is possible, it just requires some work.
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#26
Look into archtop construction. That might help you design something similar.
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#27
well, she says shes willing to spend $400+ on the guitar - assuming her parents say she can

its her money, she just wants to check

so, hopefully ill be able to start shopping around seriously tomorrow

and she said no to the trem either way
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#28
Although it is a cool idea, I think that a trem on an acoustic would look silly.
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#29
kindof impractical too
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#31
so, which kit should i go with?

i want one thats good quality, but thats under $400
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#32
I still vote for the Stewart Macdonald 000 kit in mahogany with a bolt-on neck. Personally, I prefer bolt-on necks because they're far more practical, and I have not seen nor heard any proof that either joint has a noticible impact on tone.
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#33
^ That's always a good choice.

I'd get one that is serviced. They will do a lot of the hard stuff for you like bend the sides.

Maybe you already said you were doing this, but I forgot so I thought I would post it again.
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#34
alright, so, shes willing to spend the $400

but she wants a steel string, isn't the 000 classical?

i didn't really read the names too carfully
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#35
No . . . it's steel string. Though the tuners are side-mounted, they aren't classical tuners. They have brass posts instead of the thick plastic ones on a classical. 000 is just the body shape and style. It's a great guitar. 000 bodies may not have the booming volume of a dread, but they have a much fuller sound, IMO.

Just so you know, you'll want to buy the tuners and finishing supplies along with it in one fell swoop to save on shipping and time. Also, read everything on that page. Read the free PDF instructions so there are no surprises before you order it. As far as tuners go, I reccomend these: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Guitar,_slotted_peghead/Grover_18:1_Sta-Tite_Slotted_Peghead_Guitar_Machines.html

I've used them, and frankly, I prefer them to Waverlys. Though, the Waverlys are more of a work of art than a set of tuners. Depending on your finish, I prefer the look of the gold colored tuners in most instances.
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