#1
I wonder if it's possible to put a floyd rose on a telecaster...
it will **** up the tone an sound of the guitar???
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#2
I don't know if you can buy it with the floyd rose in a store, but maybe you can ask someone to put in on your tele, or try to contact the fender guys and let them make a custom telecaster. I think the first option is better affordable, but maybe you can buy them in a store. I'm not really an expert in fender guitars
#3
buy a tele body, route for a FR then buy all new parts.
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#4
i think the tele body is too thin for a FR

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#5
I used to have one, they made them in the early 90's, they were called hmt's (heavy metal telecasters)
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i think the tele body is too thin for a FR


No way, I've seen some pretty thick telecasters and some pretty thin guitars with Floyd Roses on them.

Putting a Floyd Rose on a Telecaster is sacrilege, much like putting Floyd Rose on a Les Paul.

I think it'd be cool to see though, just like it was cool to see the "Floyd Paul" (Floyd Rose and Les Paul) build thread.
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#7
Don't put a Floyd on a tele if you like the tele sound. Part of the tele sound lies in the bridge.
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#8
^Thats true. But, If you're the sort of person who wants a floyd rose on your guitar, you probably wont want the "tele" sound. :P:
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#9


Fender HMT.. Probably one of Fender's sillier ideas.

It can be done to a normal tele but as with putting a FR on any guitar, it's a difficult job and best left to a professional unless you can afford to completely ruin a few guitars while you make mistakes.
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Fender HMT.. Probably one of Fender's sillier ideas.


I think it looks good, and would be good for me, maybe not for heavy metal seeing as it seems to be thinline style and there would be feedback issues but it'd be good for the stuff I play none-the-less.
#13
Its only semi hollow so there would be no feedback problems really.

I dunno, I'd probably buy one if I had the change just because it's so different and I'm a tele-addict. But if I was seriously after a shred/metal guitar that would be the last thing I think of buying.

Kramer used to make Telecaster shape guitars with FRs and reverse Jackson headstocks too, I'll look for a pic



Maybe it was Charvel with the Jackson-esque headstocks.
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#15
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Were these not the absolutely frigging horrible System I, II & III Trems?

They were awful for tuning stability.
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Were these not the absolutely frigging horrible System I, II & III Trems?

They were awful for tuning stability.

Dunno! I have an '87 MIJ Strat with the Fender-branded FR ... which a lot of noobs bash as unstable. I suspect these are the same noobulicious noobulets who regurgitate what they've read and have absolutely no experience or haven't even touched one. I think they just don't know how to properly set them up. How complicated can a simple mechanical piece like a bridge or a tuning peg get?

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Dunno! I have an '87 MIJ Strat with the Fender-branded FR ... which a lot of noobs bash as unstable. I suspect these are the same noobulicious noobulets who regurgitate what they've read and have absolutely no experience or haven't even touched one. I think they just don't know how to properly set them up. How complicated can a simple mechanical piece like a bridge or a tuning peg get?


appreantly pretty complicated.
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#20
This thread actually upset me. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I actually went and picked up my telecaster, hugged her, admired the string-through ferules on the back of the body and promised never to hack a hole through her for any reason.

A tele is a string through instrument, it's that other fender that actually has sustain and tuning stability. Once you go cutting holes in it, it's not a telecaster anymore. I don't even like the idea of a top-loading bridge.
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#21
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This thread actually upset me. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I actually went and picked up my telecaster, hugged her, admired the string-through ferules on the back of the body and promised never to hack a hole through her for any reason.

A tele is a string through instrument, it's that other fender that actually has sustain and tuning stability. Once you go cutting holes in it, it's not a telecaster anymore. I don't even like the idea of a top-loading bridge.



I agree that I prefer it to other Tele mods/tweaks/limited editions. I used to think that the Strat with a bridge Humbucker and/or (gasp) a FR was blasphemy. The variety makes it all interesting, though.

And the stringthrough is a major requirement for a Tele.
#22
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Dunno! I have an '87 MIJ Strat with the Fender-branded FR ... which a lot of noobs bash as unstable. I suspect these are the same noobulicious noobulets who regurgitate what they've read and have absolutely no experience or haven't even touched one. I think they just don't know how to properly set them up. How complicated can a simple mechanical piece like a bridge or a tuning peg get?


I have a MIJ Strat too, the tuning on it isn't to good really, but again it's not really absolute **** either.
I've never used the HM-teles myself, but I was told they have really bad tuning stability for the System Trems, again, I don't know, I've never used one and going by word of mouth, so please, don't act like a prick.
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#23
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Fender HMT.. Probably one of Fender's sillier ideas.

It can be done to a normal tele but as with putting a FR on any guitar, it's a difficult job and best left to a professional unless you can afford to completely ruin a few guitars while you make mistakes.


bet u wouldn't think it was silly if it said ESP on the headstock! I guess it's a bit silly to have a guitar like that semi acoustic but you would be surprised how metallic of a sound you can get out of even a gibson ES-335 shape guitar. Anywho, you must have seen the GnR "sweet child o' mine" vid? well the "other" guitarrist was playing a telecaster shape guitar with a floyd rose and 2 humbuckers. I think it's a charvel. But yeah i'm sure you could get a floyd rose in a standard fender tho. And in answer to ur original question, yes it would **** up the tone but if you want a floyd rose then maybe that's not the tone for you? Although having said that some metal bands do like to have that twang for some solos. maybe then you should look at getting a bigsby and locking tuners/graphite/roller nut? you can buy a combination bridge/trem kit for a tele and it would be much easier to install than a floyd rose 'cos it's just putting in a few screws.
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#24
The hmt i used to have actually played amazing, but yes had bad tuning stability.
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#25
This is a quasi perfect tele. Just lacks the ashtray bridge.
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#26
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I have a MIJ Strat too, the tuning on it isn't to good really, but again it's not really absolute **** either.
I've never used the HM-teles myself, but I was told they have really bad tuning stability for the System Trems, again, I don't know, I've never used one and going by word of mouth, so please, don't act like a prick.

I don't see how I was acting like a prick. It was an observation:

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Dunno! I have an '87 MIJ Strat with the Fender-branded FR ... which a lot of noobs bash as unstable. I suspect these are the same noobulicious noobulets who regurgitate what they've read and have absolutely no experience or haven't even touched one. I think they just don't know how to properly set them up. How complicated can a simple mechanical piece like a bridge or a tuning peg get?


#27
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This is a quasi perfect tele. Just lacks the ashtray bridge.


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This is a quasi perfect tele. Just lacks the ashtray bridge.





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#29
There is no rule stating that a telecaster cannot have a Floyd bridge. The body is thick enough for it, so go for it. Warmoth sells tele bodies that are already routed for various vibrato bridge systems, and you can get just about any wood you want.
#30
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There is no rule stating that a telecaster cannot have a Floyd bridge. The body is thick enough for it, so go for it. Warmoth sells tele bodies that are already routed for various vibrato bridge systems, and you can get just about any wood you want.


Well no there's no rule, but if you're going to take away its essential telecasterishness, in favour of modern toys, you may as well have a deep doublecut shape and a 24 fret superfast neck. Once you've fitted the FR, you might as well have bought the Ibanez to begin with.

On the other hand it is kind of cool having a modern metal guitar that pays tribute to the first ever solid body electric shape. It's the guitar equivalent of a PT cruiser or new Beetle.
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#31
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This is a quasi perfect tele. Just lacks the ashtray bridge.


Lol ESP put too many strings on it! Nice QC they have there

I'm kind of growing on the idea of an FR tele.

You could probably leave the metal plate and slant single coil bridge pickup, but like make it shorter without the back saddle part and then put the FR on there and it would retain a lot of it's twang.

Someone should build one now so we can see how it sounds!
#32
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This is a quasi perfect tele. Just lacks the ashtray bridge.

Awesome. I think it's good they left out the ashtray since it probably wouldn't look great with 7 strings, and Tune-o-Matic FTW!

I've been desiging a guitar for about 3 months now that is basically the child from a 3 way between a tele, a les paul custom, and a fender performer...Needless to say, my first drawing was really awkward. My current design is close to what I'd love to build someday.
#33
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This thread actually upset me. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I actually went and picked up my telecaster, hugged her, admired the string-through ferules on the back of the body and promised never to hack a hole through her for any reason.

A tele is a string through instrument, it's that other fender that actually has sustain and tuning stability. Once you go cutting holes in it, it's not a telecaster anymore. I don't even like the idea of a top-loading bridge.


Did the word "overreacting" come to mind for anybody else?
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#34
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This is a quasi perfect tele. Just lacks the ashtray bridge.


As a telecaster owner I feel violated.

Though mine's not much less absurd (see sig).
#35
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Did the word "overreacting" come to mind for anybody else?


Yeah it was a bit of an over-reaction, but it was late at night, and the over-tiredness was making me really sensitive. You know when you get into a mood where the sad bits of Disney movies upset you? Well that trem routing was like the end of All Dogs go to Heaven.

Out of character for me actually, I have a reputation for being really desensitised to most things.
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#36
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Well no there's no rule, but if you're going to take away its essential telecasterishness, in favour of modern toys, you may as well have a deep doublecut shape and a 24 fret superfast neck. Once you've fitted the FR, you might as well have bought the Ibanez to begin with.

On the other hand it is kind of cool having a modern metal guitar that pays tribute to the first ever solid body electric shape. It's the guitar equivalent of a PT cruiser or new Beetle.


If you're like me, you hate Ibanez solid bodies and don't need 24 frets. A telecaster body with a big baseball bat neck and a nice tremolo (not necessarily locking) is what I'm looking for...I'll build one of these eventually. The telecaster has a lot more going for it than just twang...to me, it's one of the best guitars for metal because of it's high end response.

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#38
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my fingers feel gruby just looking at that thing lol

and what the hell is that chunk of metal they call a bridge???
floyds have evidently REALLY evolved since then lol
#39
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I wonder if it's possible to put a floyd rose on a telecaster...
it will **** up the tone an sound of the guitar???

A floyd rose has got so much mass and so many moving parts that it sucks all the strings energy.