#1
I've been playing a while now, and i've yet to commite to a single solo. Just been sifting through stuff to play. (I have a bad habit of not finishing songs) I'm looking to start new and start soloing. Any suggestions? I'm planning to give Sanitarium a shot.
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oh ok

My thoughts exactly.

But yeah... err... good luck.
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Lol, not sure exactly what your implying there. Ha ha i really wanted suggestions tbh, so....
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#5
I suggest starting out with Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit solo. It's really easy, and gives aspiration to go for harder ones.


Also, it's better if you just try and write your own solos. That's what I do, I've been doing for 2 years, and I learned alot from it. But, learning solos from other songs do help too.
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#6
Sanitarium is a good start. If you like metallica, One has a good solo, as does the fade to black intro.
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LEARN THE MINOR PENTATONIC SCALE. It will make understanding solos you read so much easier, and itll get you started on improvizing.
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#9
smells like teen spirit has a reputation for being the easiest solo ever, so start with that to "build your confidence", or so to speak. metallica's one is probably the easiest solo, and i've heard master of puppets is the same difficulty as one, but i have yet to try MOP. if you like nirvana, learn their solos. kurt cobain wasn't any particular "guitar genius", but he did know how to write a good sounding, easy solo. i wouldn't jump right into metallica solos, because you will just get discouraged. if you like iron maiden, try "can i play with madness", but get the powertab version. the solo for that is so easy, it's just the chorus and the verses that'll get you.
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LEARN THE MINOR PENTATONIC SCALE. It will make understanding solos you read so much easier, and itll get you started on improvizing.


I agree.
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Sanitarium might ( read will) be a bit of a challenge for your first solo. I'd suggest Enter Sandman or Nothing Else Matters for an easier although still challenging Metallica song.


I hope you don't mean the solo when you say enter sandman, because that's just ridiculous to learn for a first solo.
#13
WHy pentatonic? use the mInor/major scale. then do the pentatonic. trust me, everything derives fromt he mejor scale.... EVERYTHING.
#14
I only know a couple of solos, and I have never written one.

I guess that puts me in the same boat as you?? Although, the more scales I commit to memory the more challenging my riffs have become, it may be the next step.

I just have never really been *into* all the wanking/noodling.

But, I would have to say that at some point I will need to progress. Maybe I will learn some of the ones listed here and help myself.
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WHy pentatonic? use the mInor/major scale. then do the pentatonic. trust me, everything derives fromt he mejor scale.... EVERYTHING.



the amount of time and effort to learn the major scale well is far greater than that of the pentatonic minor. Why would you suggest someone start with the scale of the largest scope and minimize, isnt the best method of learning anything to start small and work to the larger/more complicated?
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the amount of time and effort to learn the major scale well is far greater than that of the pentatonic minor. Why would you suggest someone start with the scale of the largest scope and minimize, isnt the best method of learning anything to start small and work to the larger/more complicated?


It's two more notes.
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#17
Listen to Hysteria by Muse. There is a solo in that. It sounds awesome and is easy to learn.
#18
try the opening solo in One. Thats a really beautiful solo and its easy to do.
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It's better to learn the scales if you've never done a solo before....definetly dont start with Sanitarium, nor any other Metallica song yet. Learn scales, do easy solos, Nirvana, Sex Pistols, stuff like that. Don't jump straight in, your not gonna be able to learn to solo in a day!
#20
Check out the Pixies - Where Is My Mind, that has a pretty simple solo for you to learn.
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and i've heard master of puppets is the same difficulty as one, but i have yet to try MOP.


No, but it is a fun solo. Go for some heavier solos. Mastodons solos were my first few, the solo to Rain by Trivium is also rather easy. Lamb of god has some amazing melody solos from As the Palaces Burn, Ruin, Subtle Arts of Murder and Persuasion, Pariha, etc.
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#23
Sanitarium's one of the first i learnt but smells like teen spirit is usually a good solo to learn with. American idiot and Holiday have some very simple solos that would also help get your hands into gear.
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#24
I was in the same boat as you about a year or so back and now I love soloing. Its the majority of my practice now but at first it was almost scary because I was pretty good at rythme but when I played lead it sounded terrible. But really to become a good guitarist you have to first sound like crap.
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the amount of time and effort to learn the major scale well is far greater than that of the pentatonic minor. Why would you suggest someone start with the scale of the largest scope and minimize, isnt the best method of learning anything to start small and work to the larger/more complicated?

Because the major scale is the fundamental diatonic scale and, on top of being the most commonly used scale in western music, is where we derive the minor scale, modes, harmonic modes, melodic modes, and even non-diatonic scales such as pentatonics, hexatonics, tetratonics... what have you, from. In terms of western musical music, the major scale is the basic scale from which everything is relative (any time you see a b3 or something to that effect it is the major scale that you are speaking relative of). Starting at the minor pentatonic is just stupid and gives you a very narrow view of theory. It's simpler but is not even close to being as significant as the major scale.

Also, learning the major scale is as simple as this: TTSTTTS. That's actually less characters than 1 b3 4 5 b7.
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#26
It really is worth it to learn the major scale if you want to start to get very good at composing solos. I think the best way though is the jam with somebody, and be thrown into a solo head first. It will improve you so fast, because you are under pressure, and you have to think on your feet. It seems choppy and wierd at first, but just do some penatonic runs and you can get through it.

Not only does it help you write solos, it helps you play in general.
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Because the major scale is the fundamental diatonic scale and, on top of being the most commonly used scale in western music, is where we derive the minor scale, modes, harmonic modes, melodic modes, and even non-diatonic scales such as pentatonics, hexatonics, tetratonics... what have you, from. In terms of western musical music, the major scale is the basic scale from which everything is relative (any time you see a b3 or something to that effect it is the major scale that you are speaking relative of). Starting at the minor pentatonic is just stupid and gives you a very narrow view of theory. It's simpler but is not even close to being as significant as the major scale.

Also, learning the major scale is as simple as this: TTSTTTS. That's actually less characters than 1 b3 4 5 b7.


I agree with you completely.

But the fact remains, people can learn a pentatonic box (or even all of them), and
start playing around with some soloing with an absolute minimal knowledge of
any theory. There's value in that. They can acquire more knowledge as
they go from there...
#29
Junkhead by Alice in Chains has a really easy solo.
Pearl Jam's version of Leaving Here would more than likely be a very good first solo.
#30
You shook me all night long by AC/DC or Stairway to heaven by Led Zeppelin are both great easy to learn solos that will teach you the pentatonic scales as well.
#31
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Sanitarium's one of the first i learnt but smells like teen spirit is usually a good solo to learn with. American idiot and Holiday have some very simple solos that would also help get your hands into gear.


green day and nirvana stuff is great to learn with, and it helps you learn to move your hands around. Paranoid is a great main riff, it's one of the first I learned (I'm learning ozzy's with randy rhoads, not sabbath's), but i'm still working on the rest of the song. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GETTING POWERTAB. Why? because it plays the song for you and shows you all the notes, it highlights it as it's being played. it is excellent for learning solos and fast riffs. you can also tell when a powertab is crap, because it won't sound like the real thing. usually they're pretty good, though. the intro solo to one by metallica might take some time, i couldn't really learn that at first. but once you learn the intro solo to one, you pretty much have the hard part down. the rest of the solos are tapping and tremolo picking. not too hard, but you need to really master tremolo picking and palm muting at the same time to learn One.
#32
If you can play through your scales good, learn the end solo to "Fade To Black" by metallica. It's relatively easy-mediocre.

EDIT: Woah, didn't realize you meant you like never solo at all.

I say learn all 5 pentatonic shapes, how to use them correctly, and start to practice just improving with them. After your fingers are used to moving up and down the neck and quickly across frets soloing will be ALOT eaiser.
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#34
i assume the people suggesting "One" dont mean the main solo towards the end. The tapping part at the start of that is ****ing hard.
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the amount of time and effort to learn the major scale well is far greater than that of the pentatonic minor. Why would you suggest someone start with the scale of the largest scope and minimize, isnt the best method of learning anything to start small and work to the larger/more complicated?

Because you can't actually LEARN the pentatonic scale without knowing the major scale.

Here's why...

"What's the pentatonic scale?"
Well, there's actually two you should be concerned with, the major and minor pentatonic
"Wait, that minor pentamathingy sounds familiar...what's that one?"
Well theat's the minor scale, minus two notes, the 2nd and 6th to be precise
"The what minus the what?"
Oh, okay, forget that for the time being, we'll do the major pentatonic.
"The whatty?"
Major pentatonic, that's just the major scale minus 2 notes, the 4th and 6th
"Quoi?"
Y'know, the major scale, the focal point of 99% of the theory around which the majority of western music is based, the blueprint for chord formation, the scale that most others are described in terms of.
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