#1
ok so every rap based progam on tv, or radio station, or magazine ****ing immortalizes him, but all the rap threads here (were everyone seems smarter) don't even mention him

i personally only like The Blueprint and The Black Album, but id figure id start this to see what gives.
#2
As far as rap goes, Jay-Z is probably my favorite one that is considered gangsta. I still don't really like him though.
#3
Reasonable Doubt is a classic son. Most rap fans on this board don't like the commercial fare too much, but I gotta say The Blueprint is a banging album. The songs I've heard off of The Black album are great as well.
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#4
I liked Reasonable Doubt a little, the rest is bleugh.
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Shut your fucking mouth you ignorant buffoon. Rap is obviously still alive.

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As far as rap goes, Jay-Z is probably my favorite one that is considered gangsta. I still don't really like him though.

Jay Z is hardly gangster rap.
#5
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"Good" Hip-Hop died a long time ago....


Uh-huh, most hip-hop that has been released in the last 10 years has been far better than any of the days of wayback.

As for Jay-Z, I never really got into anything besides 'Reasonable Doubt', otherwise he was always kind of meh to me.
#7
He's one of the few mainstream rappers I like.
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#9
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The Grey Album made me love Jay's lyrics, and flow.
Do you have that? If you do,can you upload it and pm me a link? I haven't heard it yet
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#10
Jay-Z and Kanye West are some of the few rappers I love to death. The Black Album is definitely worth the buy in my opinion. I'm looking at the cover right now on my desk.
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#11
I'm really starting to get into Jay-Z. I agree w/ blackflag49, 99 problems is a bad-a song. The album he did with Linkin Park is amazing.
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#13
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I liked 99 Problems.

That's a dumb ass song. Cliche, played out, and the guitar is guitarded.
#15
If you having girl problems I feel bad for you son,

I got 99 problems but a bitch ain't one!

I love that song.
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#16
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I liked 99 Problems.


Then you like Ice-T not Jay-Z. 99 Problems is an Ice-T song covered by Jay-Z. Although Jay-Z's version is mad nice.
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#17
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Then you like Ice-T not Jay-Z. 99 Problems is an Ice-T song covered by Jay-Z. Although Jay-Z's version is mad nice.

No, he just sampled the hook.
#18
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No, he just sampled the hook.


The chorus is a part of the ice-t chorus. So, a bit of a cover. Kind of like Zeppelin covers songs.
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#20
to me, Jay z was always just one of those rappers that was just there.
he's always been around and i didnt dislike him, but i didnt go out of my way to love him either.

i only really got into him when i heard the grey album, and the brilliance of that one was all down to dangermouse.

hes average as a rapper i would say. his flow has its moments, but the broken english thing can be a bit hit or miss sometimes.

only one person can rap in the broken grammar and get away with it and thats DOOM.
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#21
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i only really got into him when i heard the grey album, and the brilliance of that one was all down to dangermouse.


Yeah, the beats are insane on that album. Best Jay-Z album, I'd say.
#22
without a doubt.
grey album and Mouse and the Mask are what made me think of him as one of the best producers knocking about today.
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#23
can i remnd you all that the grey album is a bootleg?

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#24
Have any of you actually heard an entire Jay-Z album? I mean The Blueprint and Reasonable Doubt are straight up classics, give em a spin before dismissing Jigga.
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#25
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Reasonable Doubt


That's an alright album, bit it was really weird listening to the Jigga man with a average type flow. The flow on The Black/Grey Album is silly (as he put it), but on Reasonable Doubt it's pretty normal/****ty.

Since it was his first, it's easy to forgive him. It was just pretty weird.
#26
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Have any of you actually heard an entire Jay-Z album? I mean The Blueprint and Reasonable Doubt are straight up classics, give em a spin before dismissing Jigga.


yea, The Blueprint may be the greatest 21st century mainstream rap album.

i never listened to Kingdom Come because the singles sucked
#27
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can i remnd you all that the grey album is a bootleg?


yeah, but id have to say its the best use if sampling i've heard since DJ shadow.

i just wonder what maccers and ringo think of it.

even non-hiphop fans should agree that its not a disservice to the beatles, and it did a better job of contemporising (word?) the beatles back catalogue than that crappy love album did.

the level of creativity in the grey album was stunning.
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#28
Why do people have this mentality that reasonable doubt is a great rap cd? It really isn't.......but if you like it ok I guess. I'd say the dude's best CD was Blueprint but as for Jay-Z himself........


The dude steals lyrics way too much. Now borrowing from other people is something done all the time. Most comedians will say a joke that George Carlin probably said 30 years ago, Some bands might borrow a riff or a song progression from an artist they really liked, etc etc.


The problem with Jay is, he does it SOOOOOOOO often. On Black Album there's a line where he went

"I'm not a biter/I'm A writer/For myself and others/I say a big verse I'm only biggin up my brother/Biggin up my borough"...........so on and so forth.


In that song alone which I think was called What More Can I Say, he stole 2 Biggie lines and then a Nas line RIGHT after saying that I'm not a biter ****.


He used to be ok but he steals too much. Also Kingdom Come a terrible CD.
#29
I like Jay-z's rapping voice. and also the fact that he doesn't appear to be a d***.
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